barr is PRO-Interventionist Foreign Policy

[brandon]

whew.

Thanks for the heads up.

And to think Barr nearly became POTUS.

now wake up yourself!

It's not about that. It is about the destruction of the LP. If the LP does well then they will continue down the path of compromising principle for political gain until they end up just as corrupt as the GOP and Dems.


Send a message to the LP: We will not blindly vote for the party. Nominating an interventionist drug warrior is not the way to advance the party.

 

[ARealConservative]

It's not about that. It is about the destruction of the LP. If the LP does well then they will continue down the path of compromising principle for political gain until they end up just as corrupt as the GOP and Dems.


Send a message to the LP: We will not blindly vote for the party. Nominating an interventionist drug warrior is not the way to advance the party.

the LP is a soulless entity

It is a party designed specifically to draw supporters. When the two big parties start acting in concert to stifle individual liberties, the third parties needs to pick up the slack...and not by driving away anybody that fails some stupid purity test.

I'm quite proud that the do nothing Libertarian Party shows signs of growing up by showing it can support a big tent.

 

[sidster]

why don't you mind your own business? You are a theocrat supporting the theocratic party, no libertarian wants you in the LP. ciao

What? What are you smoking?

 

[sidster]

You are justified in being suspicious of Barr, but, respectfully,
I don't think it matters in 2008. No third party is going to win the Presidency. It doesn't matter if Barr is a phoney. What matters is if the Libertarian gets a substantial chunk of the freedom vote.

As I've said before, if you help give a false liberty party
and/or candidate a foothold, all you will be doing is furthering
their cause, not yours. You'll have to battle them in the
near future, that is, if you truly are a liberty minded person.

This will lay the groundwork for the upcoming elections. Candidates will begin to adjust their platforms accordingly. Our Revolution will begin to get a real foothold. Barr articulates a relatively good platform, and one that is dramatically different from the 2 party elite. We can sort out the phonies when the time comes.

Also. Barr may very well be a growing, evolving, human being. He's putting so many things on the record, now, that it would be difficult for him to reverse course back to his neocon ways, if he were to become hypothetically electable or influential.

As it has been proven by many folks, barr represents nothing
of our revolution -- the one Ron Paul started.

Look at the facts. Read what the first post in this thread points
you to. barr's own words, on his own web-page, in recent present
calling for foreign interventionist policy against another country.

 

[sidster]

Are you implying that Bob Barr is really a neoconservative trying to infiltrate the Libertarian Party? Why not just conclude that he is a Republican-turned-Libertarian, but still has some positions which need to be sorted out and reevaluated?

Did you read my first post on this thread? I think you did not.

 

[familydog]

I was pointed the page on barr's own site, dated October 10, 2007:



In this writing barr calls for clandestine operations within another
country's borders to force regime change.



That is no doubt from his CIA ties... covertly intervening with
Iran's (sovereign nation's) political system.

I wonder when will fools, who are supporting barr unconditionally,
and refuse to face facts that barr is not the the liberty candidate,
wake up and realize barr for the scum he really is!?

I keep seeing the argument that barr is at least "spreading the message"
over and over again. But I am pressed to ask what fucking message?
This seems nothing more than the neocon message. So am I to believe
that those on this site, supposed enlightened Ron Paul supporters are
blind to see through this farce? Or is it really that those on this site
calling for support for barr are in fact nothing more than insurgents into
our movement by the neocons to increase "efforts to quietly but actively
build on the deep base of political" support for barr and move us away
from Ron Paul movement?

Wake the fcuk up people!

Don't forget all the interventionists he donated to with his PAC.

 

[sidster]

It's not about that. It is about the destruction of the LP. If the LP does well then they will continue down the path of compromising principle for political gain until they end up just as corrupt as the GOP and Dems.


Send a message to the LP: We will not blindly vote for the party. Nominating an interventionist drug warrior is not the way to advance the party.

+1776 .. thank you!

Exactly correct. Don't empower just another force which
will be working against you. Just like GOP was infiltrated
by neocons and taken a different direction that its original
platform, so can LP and is with barr as its nominee.

 

[Andrew-Austin]

The Barr question does not seem like it can be answered right now, nor can the debate end any time soon. X_x

Did you read my first post on this thread? I think you did not.

I think he successfully made the point that it can neither be proved or disproved that Barr has geniunly (in his heart and mind) converted to Libertarianism.

 

[tonesforjonesbones]

Sid Vicious is just pissed because Baldwin is polling 0 and Barr is polling 6% and gettin a lot of airplay. Wake up people. Bob Barr is going to make the real impact in 2008. tones

 

[Kade]

Sid Vicious is just pissed because Baldwin is polling 0 and Barr is polling 6% and gettin a lot of airplay. Wake up people. Bob Barr is going to make the real impact in 2008. tones

Gnawing at the toes of Democracy, eh Boney?

 

[votefreedomfirst]

Sid Vicious is just pissed because Baldwin is polling 0 and Barr is polling 6% and gettin a lot of airplay. Wake up people. Bob Barr is going to make the real impact in 2008. tones

Who cares? He could win the election and it wouldn't matter because he is not a libertarian and he is not running on a libertarian platform.

We already know that phoney establishment "conservatives" like Barr can get votes. A Barr administration would just be more of the same. That's hardly worth fighting for.

 

[familydog]

Sid Vicious is just pissed because Baldwin is polling 0 and Barr is polling 6% and gettin a lot of airplay. Wake up people. Bob Barr is going to make the real impact in 2008. tones

When Baldwin is even included in most mainstream national polls, then we can talk. Don't let the media decide for you.

 

[JosephTheLibertarian]

Who cares? He could win the election and it wouldn't matter because he is not a libertarian and he is not running on a libertarian platform.

and who are you? noone cares. go vote for theocratic Baldwin.

 

[JosephTheLibertarian]

When Baldwin is even included in most mainstream national polls, then we can talk. Don't let the media decide for you.

he would be at 0 LOL

 

[Kade]

Hear Ye, Hear Ye, All Barrbots, Naterds, and Baldtwats!

Vote now for a candidate who also promises to lose!

Vote Grimace!

(see state electors for details, not applicable in most if not all states.)

 

[familydog]

he would be at 0 LOL

*shrug* I guess neocons are the norm now and are the ones who gets the sheeples attention. I wouldn't be surprised.

 

[brandon]

and who are you? noone cares. go vote for theocratic Baldwin.

Yes. Just keep calling everyone who questions Barr a "protectionist theocratic theocrat Baldwin supporte." Just keep doing it again and again and maybe someday you will brainwash some of us.

It reminds me of neocons saying you are against America if you question our government.

 

[tonesforjonesbones]

The media is not telling me who to vote for. I decided on my own. I am a free thinker. I consider Ron Paul the ULTRA best...but he's not going to hang. Bob Barr has the best chance to spread the message and collect those disgruntled conservatives that dislike McCain. Bob Barr gets airplay. Bob Barr is spreading the message. Bob Barr is polling well for a 3rd party candidate. I consider Bob Barr and the LP the best chance to continue the revolution as far as it can go in 2008. This is common sense to me. tones

 

[JosephTheLibertarian]

*shrug* I guess neocons are the norm now and are the ones who gets the sheeples attention. I wouldn't be surprised.

Why do you persist with your anti-Barr propaganda? Do you have a life? That's all you do, I guess you're just so used to no success, you just can't help but to impede on the success of the LP. Why don't you confront Mccain supporters with your propaganda? You have some terrible issues with paranoia, you should seek some help for that.

 

[JosephTheLibertarian]

Yes. Just keep calling everyone who questions Barr a "protectionist theocratic theocrat Baldwin supporte." Just keep doing it again and again and maybe someday you will brainwash some of us.

It reminds me of neocons saying you are against America if you question our government.

Well, that's what he is. He won't deny it, he is vehemently opposed to free trade Have fun supporting the ant-porn party.