Barr asks Ron Paul to run as his VP

Hi,

With 15 to 20% of the votes, Congressman Paul would have been scorned as a, "spoiler" and blamed for Obama.

Sincerely,
Omphfullas Zamboni

With 20% of the votes, they will not dare insult a group that size again... they might even have to put him on the ticket alone next time.

It would change the party, probably forever. 20% is not scornable. 20% is a, "I'm sorry".

History teaches us this.
 
After reading the letter, I got the impression that Barr would be willing to step down and let RP take the lead as LP Presidential candidate but he knows it is too late to get RP on the ballot that way and VP is the only option.
I don't see him as a turncoat, I think he sees this as the only *viable* alternative to a sure win for McBama.
 
Emotions are running, high. I think everyone needs to calm down and 1st) confirm the Barr-diss reports and 2nd) confirm RP's reaction if there has even been one yet today to Barr's letter.

These are all very significant developments. Who knows how this is playing out, until we get some more information. As far as we all know this could have all been planned/staged this way to catch significant media attention.

I'm dieing to find out what RP's reaction to the letter has been. RP will be on Wolf blitzer's show today at 4:30pm. I think those questions will be asked, I know they won't be able to resist a possible RP run even as veep.

Lets not flame each other over this until we know more!!!
 
Emotions are running, high. I think everyone needs to calm down and 1st) confirm the Barr-diss reports and 2nd) confirm RP's reaction if there has even been one yet today to Barr's letter.

These are all very significant developments. Who knows how this is playing out, until we get some more information. As far as we all know this could have all been planned/staged this way to catch significant media attention.

I'm dieing to find out what RP's reaction to the letter has been. RP will be on Wolf blitzer's show today at 4:30pm. I think those questions will be asked, I know they won't be able to resist a possible RP run even as veep.

Lets not flame each other over this until we know more!!!

I like your signature.
 
I think you have your timeline backwards. He asked Dr. Paul to be his running mate, with WAR's approval, BEFORE dissing the joint press conference.

For the record, I think not appearing was a mistake. I think Barr took some bad advice.

This is true and I agree with your assessment. People are low-balling Barr here when he went out of his way to try and get Ron to the forefront of things.

And, to the naysayers, Barr signed off on Ron's 4 point plan.

And, to be honest, I'm a bit disappointed Ron didn't give it a shot. No one knows where time leads...Ron might not be around in 2012...I would have liked to see him take a shot and I was hoping from the beginning he would have continued his candidacy had it come to this.
 
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Nah....RP has to be top dog...Barr can get the table scraps, if need be. :D

This dog has been in this fight for a long, long time. I'll settle for such table scraps...

Barr/Paul ftw. I'd like nothing better than to have someone trustworthy in a Barr administration to keep him honest.
 
Emotions are running, high. I think everyone needs to calm down and 1st) confirm the Barr-diss reports and 2nd) confirm RP's reaction if there has even been one yet today to Barr's letter.

These are all very significant developments. Who knows how this is playing out, until we get some more information. As far as we all know this could have all been planned/staged this way to catch significant media attention.

I'm dieing to find out what RP's reaction to the letter has been. RP will be on Wolf blitzer's show today at 4:30pm. I think those questions will be asked, I know they won't be able to resist a possible RP run even as veep.

Lets not flame each other over this until we know more!!!

Agreed! Plus, I don't see anywhere that is has been confirmed Paul declined this offer. Barr did try to get RP to run as LP candidate, and Barr only did it when RP insisted that he still wanted to try to work within the GOP. I think today we have seen that he has recognized the futility of that.
 
With 20% of the votes, they will not dare insult a group that size again... they might even have to put him on the ticket alone next time.

It would change the party, probably forever. 20% is not scornable. 20% is a, "I'm sorry".

History teaches us this.

Seconded. This kind of massive "spoiler effect" is the only thing that could ever shake either major party out of complacency - or convince the average American that a third party vote is not "wasted." The boat must be rocked for change to ever occur.

(That said, I understand why Paul cannot accept a VP offer from anyone anyway - he has a commitment to his district)
 
If Dr.Paul takes the bait he is exposed as a party turncoat by MSM. The temptation for the power to change things from the White House is a difficult thing. He will be much more effective in his current position then having it become a spoiler for Obama. Do not forget the elections have a high probability of being false. Diebold being the ace in the hole for tptb. If he was truly interested in party unity Barr would have made the conference with Dr.Paul today instead of sitting it out. Besides what is with the headline "Bob Barr shows leadership to unify liberty movement"? What an attention whore. He could not give credit to Dr.Paul by acknowledging the 4 part plan and instead pulls this stunt...Nope I think that Barr is a neo-con plant and he is trying to entice Dr.Paul to destroy the liberty movement.
 
the LP already nominated it's VP. they don't/won't break their rules, imo
 
If Dr.Paul takes the bait he is exposed as a party turncoat by MSM. The temptation for the power to change things from the White House is a difficult thing. He will be much more effective in his current position then having it become a spoiler for Obama. Do not forget the elections have a high probability of being false. Diebold being the ace in the hole for tptb. If he was truly interested in party unity Barr would have made the conference with Dr.Paul today instead of sitting it out. Besides what is with the headline "Bob Barr shows leadership to unify liberty movement"? What an attention whore. He could not give credit to Dr.Paul by acknowledging the 4 part plan and instead pulls this stunt...Nope I think that Barr is a neo-con plant and he is trying to entice Dr.Paul to destroy the liberty movement.

Well spoken...

:cool:
 
I don't pay any attention to Bob Barr. None at all. I've heard the same thing. The same sort of stuff. We gotta move beyond that. I mean there are real problems facing us and the world that we can actually do something about without worrying about Bob Barr :rolleyes:


Glenn Beck: "When Ron Paul was running I had several run-ins with these people called the 9-11 Truthers. They say we blew up the World Trade Center. You?"

Bob Barr:"I don't pay any attention to that. None at all. I've heard the same thing. We heard it when we did some investigations of Waco, the same sort of stuff. We gotta move beyond that. I mean there are real problems facing us and the world that we can actually do something about without worrying about conspira[cies] of times past.
 
Barr asks Paul to be his VP? wtf.. ?

sorry if this topic is a dupe.. I checked new posts..

Bob Barr Shows Leadership to Unify Liberty Movement

Asks Paul to Run as his Vice President

Atlanta, GA - Bob Barr, the Libertarian Party nominee for president, has invited GOP Congressman Ron Paul to be his running mate in the upcoming election. In a letter sent to Paul, Barr called Paul one of the "few American patriots" who exist in today's society, and asked him to "seriously consider this final offer as an opportunity to show true, lasting leadership beyond party politics."

Barr cited Paul's 1987 letter to then-GOP Chairman Frank Fahrenkopf, in which Paul stated that, "after years of trying to work through the Republican Party both in and out of government. . . concluded that efforts must be carried on outside the Republican Party."

Though recognizing Paul's personal investment in the Republican Party and his recent attempts to reform the party from inside, Barr said he disagreed with Paul's strategy. "Better options remain that will carry a message of liberty onto the ballot in November and beyond," Barr stated, adding at a news conference called today at the National Press Club, that "change in politics and public policy in America cannot and will not be done from within the current, two-party system."

Barr continued, "'The status quo will not change the status quo' and impact comes entirely from gaining votes in the General Election." That is why Barr said he would remain focused on the Libertarian Party's electoral effort and clear message, and why he invited Paul to join him.

"While you declined my offer to seek the Libertarian presidential nomination many months ago, I ask that you seriously consider this final offer as an opportunity to show true, lasting leadership beyond party politics," Barr stated in his letter to Paul.

Barr's running mate, Wayne Allyn Root, expressed support: "As the Libertarian Party vice presidential nominee, I believe in one thing above all else-principle. There can be no compromise on the ideals of limited government, lower taxes, lower spending, and more freedom for the American people. Those are the principles to which I've dedicated my life. The GOP and Democratic candidates only give lip service-at best-to these ideals and principles. It is only an act at election time every four years."

"I want to end the charade once and for all," Root continued. "I am willing to sacrifice anything to advance the cause of liberty, freedom, smaller government and to enable the American taxpayer to keep more of their own money and property. Understanding Dr. Ron Paul's reputation and name recognition in the freedom movement, I am willing to step aside as Libertarian vice presidential candidate if he would be willing to take my place. I will pledge to work day and night, just as I have as the vice presidential nominee, to support Dr. Paul. I believe this is a wonderful opportunity for the Libertarian and freedom movements. I encourage Dr. Paul to accept Congressman Barr's offer. The campaign is making this offer because we believe there is no sacrifice too large when it comes to improving the lives of the American people and American taxpayers."

Barr's letter to Paul can be found here.

Paul's letter to the GOP can be found here.

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That would be amazing.

Barr/Paul 2008

Bar pole. :D

Dude, that's awesome. Ron Paul should accept. He's always "kept the door open" or "stuck to his guns" on 99.9% not running for president as a third party, but what about vice president?

And what the hell happened to Wayne Root? I guess he turned out to be a disappointment. Especially since the gamblers apparently didn't "come to the Libertarian Party."

I accept this message!
 
The most important reason why Ron Paul would not be Bob Barr's vice presidential candidate is that....

Bob Barr voted for the Patriot Act.
Bob Barr voted for the War in Iraq.
Bob Barr supported the War on Drugs.

There is no way that Ron Paul would be the VP of someone with that kind of voting record.
 
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