Ban Guns

[LibertyEagle]

http://gunowners.org/fs0404.htm

 

[Travlyr]

Gun Ban is the same concept that the global community is telling Iran. Ban nuclear weapons for you. We'll kindly keep ours... thank you.

 

[Demigod]

I have lived around the world, and been to countless countries. When I see police on the streets of England without wearing a gun I feel very safe. I was in Romania a few months back, guns are near banned there as well. Again a very safe country.

The USA has to start the process to be in line with these safer countries. Death via gunshot in the USA each year is carnage. Enough is enough. The US has to start to be civilized on this point and get into the 21st century.

Do you know why in many European countries the police are not allowed to wear guns because no one trusts the police.They are corrupt as hell and the politicians are afraid they will start another revolt by killing a man for no reason.There were violent protests in Italy,France,Greece,England any many other countries for police officers using deadly force.So the politicians no longer give them guns to stop the protests.

Legalizing or banning firearms will not make a country civilized nor will it stop murders.For example African countries have laws banning fire arms,has that made them more civilized or safer? NO It has just given more power to people like Kony to do what they want.

The USA has higher criminal rates because of many other issues from which bitterness and envy are by me the main issues.From one side they are thought by the government all their lives that if they play by the rules one day they will become powerful and rich(in short they are taught that life is fair ),which never happens and on the other hand are constantly being bombarded by the media with people who seem to do nothing but have everything.This leads to people thinking they deserve more than what they have and with morality and ethics almost erased from the vocabulary of most man you get what we have today.

 

[angelatc]

Look at the countries that have banned guns. Great places to live - very safe. .

Murders per capita - the US doesn't even rank in the top 40. http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_mur_percap-crime-murders-per-capita

 

[whippoorwill]

Wow this guy just tried to piss in a Hornets Nest. HAHAHAHA....hehehehehe. Run Mother fucker RUN FOR YOUR LIFE!

 

[angelatc]

The USA has higher criminal rates because of many other issues from which bitterness and envy are by me the main issues.

There are also other factors to consider. If you look at the UN statistics, it indicates that undeveloped countries are the safest places to live. However, the people in Afghanistan are probably a lot less likely to call 911 when their plastic patio furniture is stolen than we are. Likewise, there's a lot more cars stolen in the US than in Ethiopia, because we have a lot more cars.

 

[eduardo89]

Cops in the UK started carrying guns quite a few years ago, yet the myth lives on.

Of course it the poster is saying that society is better off if the police are unarmed, I might be inclined to agree with him to some extent.

Very few cops have guns in the UK. The ones that have guns are only at airports, train stations, government buildings etc. 99% of cops do not have a firearm.

 

[Demigod]

There are also other factors to consider. If you look at the UN statistics, it indicates that undeveloped countries are the safest places to live. However, the people in Afghanistan are probably a lot less likely to call 911 when their plastic patio furniture is stolen than we are. Likewise, there's a lot more cars stolen in the US than in Ethiopia, because we have a lot more cars.

This is just my opinion I am not even from the USA just lived for a while as a kid.From what I read in your media and what I can see from the shows that you watch I would be bitter as well.

All the time being bombarded about some guy who has a 50 million dollar house and can't even sing or a tramp on TV that makes more money a year than what you would make ever.This files older people with envy while the new generations are completely gone.They think that they deserve to live like that as well,they think that they are important and what they have to say someone has to listen.When they face life and that is that no one gives a shit about them they become more bitter with time.

You may see OWS as a joke but there you had a big number of people who would gladly rob someone because they think that they deserve to be rich as well.This is a very bad mentality to have in a country especially if the next few generations are taught all their life to be the same.

 

[Demigod]

Very few cops have guns in the UK. The ones that have guns are only at airports, train stations, government buildings etc. 99% of cops do not have a firearm.

Eduardo they do not carry guns cause the politicians are afraid they will shoot someone and start protests that will take them done from power.And that is the only reason.

 

[PaulConventionWV]

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That is nonsense! See my other post on that.



Terrorists would not be deterred by people with handguns. Who would not use them against an organized gang. Look at the mass murders in the USA of school kids. An armed nation never stopped that. Get real. Being from India you must be aware of the UK and its laws.

Look at the countries that have banned guns. Great places to live - very safe. They have the freedom to walk down the street and not be threatened by people with firearms, private people or the state. This freedom is denied to many in countries like the USA. Americans need to get heir basic freedom back.



So two wrongs make a right then. Warped logic. Cars and guns are mutually exclusive.

The bolded part is not freedom, far from it. Your view is so warped that I don't even know how you can logically process these contradictory thoughts. The freedom to not be threatened is not freedom. The freedom to be threatened and do something about it is freedom. If you ban guns, people will still be threatened with guns by criminals who have them because, guess what, they're criminals. Then, the people who are not criminals do not have the means to defend themselves. That is the opposite of freedom. Taking away guns is taking away freedom, not adding it.

Also, mass murders in schools occur in places where guns are not allowed anyway because the school has the right to make that choice, not the government. Your example works against you because these murders happened despite the fact that nobody in the school was permitted to have a gun. But oh, guess what, someone DID have a gun because they didn't care about the rules. And guess what else, they killed people because they were the ONLY ones with guns in the whole school. Telling people they can't have guns by a private insitution on their private property is different than the government telling everyone they can't have guns. The private institution has the right to do that. I know most schools are public these days, but in terms of guns, they behave like private institutions.

Terrorists would be deterred by people with handguns because they would be dead. Just because they ain't skeered, doesn't mean they won't get shot if other law-abiding citizens have guns. It's pretty simple. If a lot of people have guns, they can shoot the terrorists dead, therefore disabling them from committing acts of terrorism. That cannot possibly happen in a society where all law-abiding citizens don't have guns. That is, unless you think other criminals are going to shoot the terrorists.

 

[eduardo89]

Can we just ban this troll? And his other sock puppet account too...please...

 

[eduardo89]

Eduardo they do not carry guns cause the politicians are afraid they will shoot someone and start protests that will take them done from power.And that is the only reason.

Well British cops actually have never carried more than a baton and a whistle. It's been like that since the formation of modern police forces in Victorian times.

I personally see it as the government not even trusting the police and wanting to keep EVERYONE disarmed.

Handguns are completely banned in the UK. Guess what happened to knife crime when then went into effect? It went up exponentially.

 

[PaulConventionWV]

As someone who lives in Chicago this is without a doubt true.

How is it no one notices that the cities with the most gun control are always the most unsafe...

Some of us don't live close to big cities and don't study our big city gun law history. I know, shocking.

 

[Southron]

Lol. Who is going to enforce these gun bans? My nearest town has 1 or 2 police officers and they work for the county. Perhaps you will volunteer?

 

[PaulConventionWV]

There are also other factors to consider. If you look at the UN statistics, it indicates that undeveloped countries are the safest places to live. However, the people in Afghanistan are probably a lot less likely to call 911 when their plastic patio furniture is stolen than we are. Likewise, there's a lot more cars stolen in the US than in Ethiopia, because we have a lot more cars.

Exactly. Maybe we should ban cars. Then only criminals will have guns and cars. Utopian society, here we come.

 

[Travlyr]

I have lived around the world, and been to countless countries. When I see police on the streets of England without wearing a gun I feel very safe. I was in Romania a few months back, guns are near banned there as well. Again a very safe country.

The USA has to start the process to be in line with these safer countries. Death via gunshot in the USA each year is carnage. Enough is enough. The US has to start to be civilized on this point and get into the 21st century.

If you really believe this JohnLVT, then why don't you lead the charge by going around collecting them. Let us know how that works out.

 

[PaulConventionWV]

This is just my opinion I am not even from the USA just lived for a while as a kid.From what I read in your media and what I can see from the shows that you watch I would be bitter as well.

All the time being bombarded about some guy who has a 50 million dollar house and can't even sing or a tramp on TV that makes more money a year than what you would make ever.This files older people with envy while the new generations are completely gone.They think that they deserve to live like that as well,they think that they are important and what they have to say someone has to listen.When they face life and that is that no one gives a shit about them they become more bitter with time.

You may see OWS as a joke but there you had a big number of people who would gladly rob someone because they think that they deserve to be rich as well.This is a very bad mentality to have in a country especially if the next few generations are taught all their life to be the same.

It may be controversial, but I am going to throw pharmaceuticals in there as well. There has been a lot of circumstantial evidence as well as logical evidence that they can cause violent outbursts. We spend the most on healthcare as a nation, and yet we are one of the sickest countries for it. Pharmaceuticals are advertised non-stop on TV so they are basically the only accepted form of medicine because of the funding they get from the government and the controls of the FDA. When they are advertised, you rarely hear an advertisement for a drug that DOESN'T have lethal "side effects." Some people, such as myself, find this very shocking that people are fine with that, even though it is knowingly causing hundreds of thousands of deaths each year and is still considered "medicine." Even the mood control drugs that are supposed to help you get over your depression are regularly advertised as having the side effect of "increased suicidal thoughts or tendencies." What kind of mental drug does the opposite of what it's supposed to do? You're supposed to tell your doctor if it happens, but that doesn't change the fact that, even while taken as prescribed, these medicines can cause this kind of stuff. Also, it's only logical to think that, based on differen things from person to person, the well-known suicidal tendencies may also be homicidal tendencies. They don't mention that, though.

 

[JohnLVT]

Can we just ban this troll? And his other sock puppet account too...please...

Ban him because has demolished his arguments he shouts. How American! Free speech and all that. If you want a place where they all think the same way, try Commie North Korea.

 

[JohnLVT]

Well British cops actually have never carried more than a baton and a whistle. It's been like that since the formation of modern police forces in Victorian times.

Fantastic isn't!!

Handguns are completely banned in the UK. Guess what happened to knife crime when then went into effect? It went up exponentially.

Guns have always been banned. When was this event your refer? 1302?

 

[Dsylexic]

Ban him because has demolished his arguments he shouts. How American! Free speech and all that. If you want a place where they all think the same way, try Commie North Korea.

free speech? ugh. there you go again.displaying further ignorance of 'freedom'. rpf is not public property.you right to free speech is a subset of RPF property rights.in simple words,no -nobody has absolute freedom of speech on a private property.