BAD NEWS: Ron Paul 3rd Party Rumors Confirmed to be FALSE - Wead

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That pretty much is an endorsement.

actually 'we must look to them for a better alternative' doesn't say she thinks there is much hope they can deliver, if you are picking it apart. She's not my candidate, but I think she tries to stay independent. Moreover, there are rumors Romney cost her her interviews at RNC and that her Fox contract is in jeapardy. I dont read these articles, but I see the headlines.
 
How do you supposed we're going to get anyone in the RNC leadership that will change the rules back when the new rules were designed to keep those oppose to the RNC's agenda from getting into that leadership position?

Lawsuit. Breach of contract (breaking the rules of order everyone agreed to in order to pass the rule changes when "nays" were at least as loud as the "ayes" and the result was pre-scripted on the teleprompter). I think there should be some criminal kidnapping charges in there too, or maybe false imprisonment.... For the bus that "got lost" with Blackwell on it.

These rule changes were enacted fraudulently and I believe there is a legitimate tort here. All party members agree to abide by the rules, and just because some people are in leadership positions that doesn't give them the right to break that agreement. It's breach of contract.
 
Lawsuit. Breach of contract (breaking the rules of order everyone agreed to in order to pass the rule changes when "nays" were at least as loud as the "ayes" and the result was pre-scripted on the teleprompter). I think there should be some criminal kidnapping charges in there too, or maybe false imprisonment.... For the bus that "got lost" with Blackwell on it.

These rule changes were enacted fraudulently and I believe there is a legitimate tort here. All party members agree to abide by the rules, and just because some people are in leadership positions that doesn't give them the right to break that agreement. It's breach of contract.

The bus driver would squeel like a pig if the threat of a lawsuit was pending. I'm sure there are plenty of lawyers to take on that case.

As far that the "ayes' having it. Beohner says "In the opinion of the chair".Key word, Opinion.
 
I don't understand what is this freaking obsession with Dr. Paul running 3rd party....any liberty-minded candidate on the presidential ballot is fine with me. If you want liberty, why does it have to be only Dr. Paul who has to run?
 
I don't understand what is this freaking obsession with Dr. Paul running 3rd party....any liberty-minded candidate on the presidential ballot is fine with me. If you want liberty, why does it have to be only Dr. Paul who has to run?

because he has the name recognition to poll into the national debates. of course, if you don't care to get our message into the national debates and give rombomney a huge speedbump then you can run a typical liberty candidate for president. and he will disappear into thin air just like gary johnson will if he doesn't offer his spot to ron paul.
 
because he has the name recognition to poll into the national debates. of course, if you don't care to get our message into the national debates and give rombomney a huge speedbump then you can run a typical liberty candidate for president. and he will disappear into thin air just like gary johnson will if he doesn't offer his spot to ron paul.

After all the lying, cheating, vote fraud, rule changes and debate marginalization the Republicans made Ron Paul go through....do you really think the Republicans AND Democrats are going to let RP participate in a presidential national debate?
 
I don't understand what is this freaking obsession with Dr. Paul running 3rd party....any liberty-minded candidate on the presidential ballot is fine with me. If you want liberty, why does it have to be only Dr. Paul who has to run?

Gary Johnson is not fine with me. He is pro-choice, I won't vote for a candidate that is pro-choice.
 
Gary Johnson is not fine with me. He is pro-choice, I won't vote for a candidate that is pro-choice.

I am extremely pro-life, however, (unless I'm wrong?) his policy is essentially the same as Ron Paul's: leave it up to the states.
 
After all the lying, cheating, vote fraud, rule changes and debate marginalization the Republicans made Ron Paul go through....do you really think the Republicans AND Democrats are going to let RP participate in a presidential national debate?

If they shut him out of the debates polling that high it will get a lot of regular American's attention.
 
That is untrue.

There are all kinds of elections to win that have nothing to do with the presidency. We need to stop thinking that the end all and be all is that one position.

A good argument can be made that Congress is more important than the President. And we have candidates still running for Congress...
 
For some strange reason, this independent run rumor is starting to remind me of the secret billionaire rumor. The effects seem similar.
 
For some strange reason, this independent run rumor is starting to remind me of the secret billionaire rumor. The effects seem similar.

It's time to pack it in and start working for the congressional candidates and the Libertarian Party. Dr Paul can't run third party. The deadlines for getting on the ticket are long gone for many states, and most of the rest have "sore loser" laws that won't allow you to be on the ticket of another party or as an independent after a run in the primary.
 
It's time to pack it in and start working for the congressional candidates and the Libertarian Party. Dr Paul can't run third party. The deadlines for getting on the ticket are long gone for many states, and most of the rest have "sore loser" laws that won't allow you to be on the ticket of another party or as an independent after a run in the primary.

Yep. Need help here http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...ate-in-WI-needs-help-State-Senate-district-24
 
For some strange reason, this independent run rumor is starting to remind me of the secret billionaire rumor. The effects seem similar.

Don't forget the "It's all about the delegates!" rumor.

That one worked in 2008, and again in 2012.
 
A good argument can be made that Congress is more important than the President. And we have candidates still running for Congress...

but your list doesn't even count in civil liberties, and without that I don't consider someone a liberty candidate, just a fiscal conservative. I'm not saying my definition is right for everyone, I am only pointing out that one person's liberty candidate might not be another person's liberty candidate. For me, I don't see much chance in Ron running unless the LP were to offer him the Presidential spot which initially I had the impression was being considered, now I don't know that it is. That would be the easiest way forward with benefits to LP from being in debates and more funding and higher profile, as well as to us from getting Ron, likely, in the Presidential debates or at least highlighting the disenfranchisement of the people. However, the reason I focus on it is I don't see his like coming up any time soon, and so whatever we can get out of his run, which I consider to have been cut off by the campaign and early endorsement, is a big focus of mine. The other candidates would not have galvanized me as Ron did, and I think the same would be true of a lot of other people out there whom I would really like to have hear Ron in the Presidential debates.

That is simply my personal opinion, and people have different opinions here, obviously.

I just don't know that the pieces will come together in time if the LP isn't pushing for it too.
 
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