BAD NEWS: Ron Paul 3rd Party Rumors Confirmed to be FALSE - Wead

[erowe1]

Because the national delegates will now be chosen by the RNC leadership and the presumptive nominee.

OK. But what about in 2016?

If rule changes were permanent, there would be no such thing as rule changes.

 

[hrdman2luv]

OK. But what about in 2016?

If rule changes were permanent, there would be no such thing as rule changes.

How do you supposed we're going to get anyone in the RNC leadership that will change the rules back when the new rules were designed to keep those oppose to the RNC's agenda from getting into that leadership position?

 

[erowe1]

How do you supposed we're going to get anyone in the RNC leadership that will change the rules back when the new rules were designed to keep those oppose to the RNC's agenda from getting into that leadership position?

From the ground up. If a fraction of the people who donated to Ron Paul's campaign became precinct chairs, they'd be able to do that.

Besides, even if we don't change the rules, the rules are still going to change. They always do. I don't see why we need to pretend that all of a sudden for the first time in history there was a rule change that will last forever.

 

[LibertyEagle]

How do you supposed we're going to get anyone in the RNC leadership that will change the rules back when the new rules were designed to keep those oppose to the RNC's agenda from getting into that leadership position?

We had some in the Rules Committee. We need more.

 

[RonPaulFanInGA]

How do you figure that? What benefits does a Romney presidency bring? I don't see much difference except Obama only gets another 4 years.

Is that what you said in 2004? "Hey, Bush is better because it's only four more years."

 

[hrdman2luv]

Is that what you said in 2004? "Hey, Bush is better because it's only four more years."

Personally, I believe that the president has little control over the economy. And the things that's happened under Obama, would've happened under McCain, Jeb Bush or almost all the other 08 GOP candidates.

 

[sailingaway]

We had some in the Rules Committee. We need more.

except now they can decide who delegates are and stop that. I'm not against the GOP strategy, I think we move forward there. But I think if Ron does run when he didn't in 2008, it shows RNC the dangers of overreach, and maybe they change the rules back. Because I think Ron's run will get more sympathy after what was done at RNC than it would have without that. My understanding is the 6 states that filed to nominate Ron after his delegates were struck included Gingrich and Santorum delegates. What RNC did makes third parties basically the ONLY way to elect a grass roots candidate.

However, it isn't likely and the clock is ticking. The most likely would be the LP with Ron as President and if they simply don't want to, I don't know if Ron would do the more uphill independent route.

 

[specsaregood]

I doubt she would do it. But then again, I wouldn't be too surprized. Maybe, she needs a little coaxing. She's made a point about the way the delegates were cheated. But hasn't denounce the RNC for doing it.

Yeah, I'm not saying she would do it; but she has enough of a pull with a select group that she might be one of the few that could pull it off.

 

[Carlybee]

I would not support a ticket with Sarah Palin. Not even for Ron Paul. And that's saying a lot. She is not a liberty person. She is part of the co-opted tea party.

 

[wgadget]

Yeah, I'm not saying she would do it; but she has enough of a pull with a select group that she might be one of the few that could pull it off.

Who is "she"?

 

[specsaregood]

Who is "she"?

Palin. She have enough charm where she could in theory get enough people to go 3rd party.

 

[affa]

If Obama get re-elected, America is over and so is our movement. Capeesh!

Turn off Fox, dude. Or, at least, go to the Mitt Romney Forums. Romney is the same establishment tool Obama is.

 

[rockandrollsouls]

Thought so.

 

[sailingaway]

Thought so.

It very likely isn't happening, but this is a grass roots activist saying Doug Wead said a week before RNC that there was no chance. The conference call last night was a different grass roots activist saying Ron said AFTER RNC that he hadn't ruled it out but didn't see a practical path for it, more or less, and listing the barriers he saw.

But nowhere did Ron affirmatively come to others and say he wanted to, all on his own.

 

[LibertyEagle]

except now they can decide who delegates are and stop that. I'm not against the GOP strategy, I think we move forward there. But I think if Ron does run when he didn't in 2008, it shows RNC the dangers of overreach, and maybe they change the rules back. Because I think Ron's run will get more sympathy after what was done at RNC than it would have without that. My understanding is the 6 states that filed to nominate Ron after his delegates were struck included Gingrich and Santorum delegates. What RNC did makes third parties basically the ONLY way to elect a grass roots candidate.

However, it isn't likely and the clock is ticking. The most likely would be the LP with Ron as President and if they simply don't want to, I don't know if Ron would do the more uphill independent route.

That is untrue.

There are all kinds of elections to win that have nothing to do with the presidency. We need to stop thinking that the end all and be all is that one position.

 

[sailingaway]

That is untrue.

There are all kinds of elections to win that have nothing to do with the presidency. We need to stop thinking that the end all and be all is that one position.

You are right at lower levels, and nowhere was I suggesting we stop making gains in the GOP. However, at the presidential level, these rules stop anyone they don't want, if the rules aren't changed, and they can veto anyone who gets into place who might change the rules.

 

[Paulistinian]

A Mitt Romney/GOP loss in 2012 is exactly what our movement needs.

 

[hrdman2luv]

I would not support a ticket with Sarah Palin. Not even for Ron Paul. And that's saying a lot. She is not a liberty person. She is part of the co-opted tea party.

LOL, anyone that endorses McCain can't be for Liberty.

Has she endorsed Romney?

 

[CPUd]

LOL, anyone that endorses McCain can't be for Liberty.

Has she endorsed Romney?

Not much more than saying he made a good choice on the VP pick.

There were quite a few McCain staffers undermining her in 2008. Probably some of those same people working for Mitt now.

 

[hrdman2luv]

I just found it

Congratulations to Mitt Romney on his choice of Congressman Paul Ryan as his running mate. President Obama has declared that this election is about “two fundamentally different visions” for America. Goodness, he’s got that right. Our country cannot afford four more years of Barack Obama’s fundamentally flawed vision. We must now look to this new team, the Romney/Ryan ticket, to provide an alternate vision of an America that is fiscally responsible, strong, and prosperous – an America that understands and is proud of her exceptional place in the world and will respect those who fight to secure that exceptionalism, which includes keeping our promises to our veterans.

That pretty much is an endorsement.