Backstabbing Republicans Publish Open Letter To Iran Undermining Negotiations

[AngryCanadian]

Bleh. I have seen Rand get weak easily when it comes to foreign policy, he is becoming one of them. I have seen recent interviews with him. One false flag, and he would be just another neocon were he president.

This is what happens when The Israeli lobbies get to you.

 

[jon_perez]

Oh, this is true, alright. And yes, Rand Paul signed it: http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...blicans-addressed-to-the-leaders-of-iran.html

Rand Paul is not his dad. I NEVER believed in him.

Rand is just your typical pandering politico.

 

[AuH20]

Rand Paul is not his dad. I NEVER believed in him.

Rand is just your typical pandering politico.

Why is every mainstream politician and media source gunning for him? All you need to know about a man is his enemies.

 

[jon_perez]

I also get that he has to pander every once in a while but he has been pandering a lot lately and this could have been his opportunity to show his supporters that he is still a non interventionist.

LOL!

The thing I like about Ron Paul (unlike Rand) is that no one has to be an apologist for him.

 

[nikcers]

What is your opinion on the fact that Rand Paul is aligning himself with the likes of Tom Cotton and signing letters such as these?

I honestly think if a bad agreement was made with Iran that Rand would not vote for it. I think its sending a clear message that no presidential agreement that is bad for our country will last. I think its so they can't make a fake agreement to kick the can to the next president or congress down the line so the Obama administration doesn't get blamed for installing terror or putting iran back into the stone age to put up or shut up.

 

[Mr.NoSmile]

Got people so riled up that there's an online petition: https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/file-charges-against-47-us-senators-violation-logan-act-attempting-undermine-nuclear-agreement/NKQnpJS9

On March 9th, 2015, forty-seven United States Senators committed a treasonous offense when they decided to violate the Logan Act, a 1799 law which forbids unauthorized citizens from negotiating with foreign governments. Violation of the Logan Act is a felony, punishable under federal law with imprisonment of up to three years.

At a time when the United States government is attempting to reach a potential nuclear agreement with the Iranian government, 47 Senators saw fit to instead issue a condescending letter to the Iranian government stating that any agreement brokered by our President would not be upheld once the president leaves office.

This is a clear violation of federal law. In attempting to undermine our own nation, these 47 senators have committed treason.

 

[twomp]

This is the kind of letter that should be sent to leaders of every country. The President isn't King. He doesn't get to go around the world making deals without Congress approval.

 

[enhanced_deficit]

AIPAC's main man in Senate hits back at GOP :

Haaretz.com @haaretzcom · 5h 5 hours ago

WATCH: Reid: 'Republicans are undermining Obama while empowering the Ayatollahs'

http://htz.li/1TS

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[specsaregood]

Rand Paul is not his dad. I NEVER believed in him.

Rand is just your typical pandering politico.

So what exactly about the letter did you disagree with? I'm thinking his father would agree pretty much everything in the letter.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Tom Cotton says that Obama can't negotiate anything on his own, yet according to Cotton, some "agreement" with Ukraine signed by President Clinton in 1994 with no Congressional vote or approval, is iron clad and we must follow it.

 

[dannno]

Bleh. I have seen Rand get weak easily when it comes to foreign policy, he is becoming one of them. I have seen recent interviews with him. One false flag, and he would be just another neocon were he president.

That's like, just your opinion...man....

 

[mosquitobite]

The press is just looking for any excuse. It helps not to give any to them, but if not this then something else. A little condescending, perhaps, mostly it demonstrates Congressional distrust in our President. It's pretty unprecedented. There is this little threat of war-ish at the end, but the target of this isn't Iran, it's Obama. I mean, Congress going directly to Iran to express a lack of faith in the President's power to negotiate? I can't imagine such a thing ever happening before.

Now Obama has to beg the Senate for 3/5 approval on something he will never get. They just said, "Hey Ayatollah, don't bother listening to this guy, he's a lame duck, and he doesn't speak for us." Whatever Obama was trying to accomplish it just ended right there like that. Now it's just a visit for old time's sake. Congress just chopped Obama off at the knees as he started walking into Iran. I am sure that was not by accident. The only thing the Republican Senate will accept now is capitulation, which Iran will never give. If they got wind of Obama planning to give up something considered horrible (who knows, just speculation) they may have broke this to stop something of an emergency matter. Honestly, with Obama's history I wouldn't be surprised. God knows what the man could do at any moment.

All I'm saying is doing this kind of thing is profound, unprecedented, and impossible to do by accident. Our own Senate just chopped our own President off at the knees, as he walked into negotiations with Iran. Good, bad, or indifferent, it's big. Imagine Congress telling China that Nixon didn't actually represent them. Imagine Congress telling Gorbachev that Reagan was not our guy. Whatever is going on here, it's not a joke.

Agree.

I just do not like it. At all. Makes me very uneasy with how Obama will respond.

This is very "House of Cards" type BS.

 

[Saint Vitus]

It's sad that a Socialist senator from Vermont has more foreign policy sense than Ron Paul's son.

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/03/bernie-sanders-iran-letter-war-115934.html

 

[Sam I am]

I think that if Obama comes to an agreement with the leaders of Iran, he should try to get it approved by congress anyway so that they can't just renege on it in a couple of years.

 

[The Gold Standard]

I think that if Obama comes to an agreement with the leaders of Iran, he should try to get it approved by congress anyway so that they can't just renege on it in a couple of years.

Barack doesn't give a shit about the agreement. He is playing games so that Boobus believes we really gave peace a try before Hillary bombs the fuck out of Iran in the first month she is president.

 

[Badger Paul]

" All this letter says is that our Constitution requires Congress to authorize any deal with Iran that President Obama enters into."

Like the Iranians don't already know this. What a waste of time! It was stupid and boderline treacherous. If Leftists Democrats in the 1980s had encouraged Daniel Ortega to not negotiate with Reagan Administration for Central American peace or invited Field Casto to speak before Congress without telling the President, what do you think the reaction would be? And they think they can do the same thing because it's not the Cold War? What a joke.

What's sad is Rand's utter political shamelessness. Obviously he signed this document for political reasons. Fine then. It will do him no good. He's going to find out the hard way no matter what he does or says, nobody is going to believe he's as neocon as every other Republican. They will attack him all the same. And if he's not willing to stand up for the principles of the movement that put him into office, he might as well not even run. He's useless in that capacity.

 

[Smitty]

The letter is just another way for certain members of Congress to suck up to Netanyahu.

 

[dannno]

The letter is just another way for certain members of Congress to suck up to Netanyahu.

It also makes Obama look like a "rebel" and "the good guy".

Be careful.

 

[Suzanimal]

From FB

Will Grigg's comment on this article - speaking of Tom Cotton.

William N. Grigg This corn-pone Fuhrer-manque makes my fist itch.

IMMEDIATELY AFTER LAUNCHING EFFORT TO SCUTTLE IRAN DEAL, SENATOR TOM COTTON TO MEET WITH DEFENSE CONTRACTORS

In an open letter organized by freshman Sen. Tom Cotton, R-Ark., 47 Senate Republicans today warned the leaders of Iran that any nuclear deal reached with President Barack Obama could expire as soon as he leaves office.

Tomorrow, 24 hours later, Cotton will appear at an “Off the Record and strictly Non-Attribution” event with the National Defense Industrial Association, a lobbying and professional group for defense contractors.

The NDIA is composed of executives from major military businesses such as Northrop Grumman, L-3 Communications, ManTech International, Boeing, Oshkosh Defense and Booz Allen Hamilton, among other firms.

Cotton strongly advocates higher defense spending and a more aggressive foreign policy. As The New Republic’s David Ramsey noted, “Pick a topic — Syria, Iran, Russia, ISIS, drones, NSA snooping — and Cotton can be found at the hawkish outer edge of the debate…During his senate campaign, he told a tele-townhall that ISIS and Mexican drug cartels joining forces to attack Arkansas was an ‘urgent problem.'”

...

https://firstlook.org/theintercept/...senator-tom-cotton-meets-defense-contractors/

 

[phill4paul]

At what point will the Rand supporters on this forum say "enough?" Or is there even a limit to be reached if the end goal is the presidency? If he signed onto a war resolution granting limited strikes against Iran would it still be excused because of the need to win at all costs?
Had Ron won there would be no end to the condemnation for the neocons that would pull this move during negotiations by his administrations. SMDH. Seems the "liberty movement" motto has become "the presidency over all else, at any cost."