Baby Boomers May Suck, But So Does Everyone Else.

[osan]

In recent years I have found myself amused most drolly by the youngins who refer to those of my generation as "Boomers", meant as a pejorative. It is a bit childish, just as are all such weak attempts at insult. But to those people, and all others on the planet, I do have something to say along those lines.

Despite being otherwise decent and intelligent people, my generation (baby boom) turned out for the most part to be horrible parents. They are, after all, responsible for the so-called "millennial", who in their turn gave rise to "generation Z", a raft of functional weaklings and toddlers in grown bodies who think they are smart, when in fact they are woefully the opposite, again speaking to the mean.
How did so bright a generation give rise to the utter wasteland that is the major portion of this most recent generation of "adults"? One major answer is actually quite simple: they fell for the bait of the likes of that scurrilous clown, Benjamin Spock, and decided they would be friends with their children, rather than proper parents, based on the false belief that it is important that they be liked by their offspring. Few things could be further from the truth. This may seem an innocent enough position to assume, but it is in fact the basis of the current destruction we are witnessing nationwide as the nation falls to wrack and ruin.

And so we have managed through our good intentions to muck the world up beyond all recognition, and possibly past the point of redemption. But being a low-IQ optimist, I cling to the barest hair-split of hope that this miasma of raving stupidity and abhorrently poor attitudes and habits may yet be corrected. But in order to do so, the first step will be to forgive each other: the young for our unintentional errors, and we, for their wildly misguided world views that, after all, were made possible due to our own errors in child-rearing.

Imagine the utter fit that Theye would have, were we, the warring parties to stop, shake hands, let bygones be bygones, and begin to rebuild the perceptual commons where decency, respect, good manners, basic sense, tolerance of the tolerable, and all the other blessings of freedom are the norm, the old becoming new once more. Theye (those in real material power in the world) would toss a colossal conniption and we would be able to confidently expect all manner of problems to arise, whether those of an economic nature, in finance, commodities, wars, and so forth, because the last thing they want is for you and I to shake hands and learn to become friendly. When that happens, Theye are finished, because without the manifold antagonisms that keep us divided, and therefore distracted, we would be free to come together as one in the political sense of recognizing who is the real enemy of humanity.


It's not Republicans or Democrats, lefties or righties, conservative or progressive, men or women: it's the elite and we could de-ball them in very short order, were we to forgive one another and get to the business of restoring liberty to the people of planet Earth.

We don't have to all be in love with one another. Certainly our differences would not vanish, but our reactions to those differences would. Rather than wishing all manner of horrors upon one another, we would respectfully disagree where we differ, yet be generous enough to allow each other our lives and views and preferences. Such as development would drive the Tyrant mad with frustration and fear because he already knows that the moment we stop the back-biting, we might turn eyes in common toward him, his lackeys, and begin to divine what it is he has really been doing to us all this time. In such a case, it would spell the end of things for them all, which means Theye must prevent it from occurring at any and all cost.


There is no possible way, short of nuking or plaguing the entire planet, that Theye can successfully dominate us if we refuse their false authority; authority that exists in terms of real world effect only because we accept it as real, when in fact it is literally nothing at all beyond mere belief. So long as we believe, we tend to comply. So long as we comply, the false assertion of authority becomes effectively real. It is a house of cards that stands because we fail to take in even the most meager breath, which is all that is required to blow it down to its very foundation.

Freedom is a heartbeat away, yet it is impossibly distant, not because it is itself impossible, but because we make it so when we play Theire game, nearly every one of us being in that diversion up to our eyeballs. Why else do we have so many people tearing out their hair with hatred for this one or those over there? Theye are whispering in our ears that the enemy threatens, whether it be horrible white males, black females, Muslims, Jews, Christians, and so on down the seemingly endless list of labels that provides objects of fear and hatred for every possible taste.

It's the gag-reel of all time; the biggest scam ever, and nearly every one of us have taken up with it hook, line, and sinker.

The most productive thing we could do at this very moment would be to stop playing, because participation is a loser by intent of design.

May 2023 prove better than 2022, and may we all forgive one another for our trespasses, real, imagined, and otherwise. What is past is done. Some of it has been indeed horrible, but when we think about it closely, most was really not so bad. We differ. We will always differ. Can we not move on now to more profitable things, such as restoring the liberties that Theye have convinced us to cede?


Imagine not living in red-alert mode, day in and day out. Imagine not being filled with rage, outrage, anger, and hatred, all emotions that have their places, but when taken in too generous measures soon becomes erosive of health, happiness, and liberty as we become prisoners of them. Imagine having the power to recognize the real enemies of humanity and turning your justifiable ire upon them! Imagine a world where courtesy reigned; where people were friendly despite holding differing opinions. Imagine a world better than the one in which we are now all inmates in a prison of our own contrivance!


It is possible. It is so close, you could kiss it if you chose to see. But so long as we remain in hate-fear mode, Theye shall remain powerful while we remain effectively weak, and that is the greatest and most shameful irony of them all. We, the humans from Earth, could end Themme in no time at all, even if the cost were to prove high. It can be done, but not if we are at one another's throats.


May the blessings of liberty be with us all, and until next time please accept my best wishes.

 

[pcosmar]

I didn't do it,, it was broken when I got here.

 

[Anti Globalist]

From what I can tell Gen X seems to be the only current generation that at least has some integrity.

 

[nobody's_hero]

I'm a millennial but I don't own it. I say all the time that they started putting something in the baby food after the 90s.

 

[Gaddafi Duck]

In recent years I have found myself amused most drolly by the youngins who refer to those of my generation as "Boomers", meant as a pejorative. It is a bit childish, just as are all such weak attempts at insult. But to those people, and all others on the planet, I do have something to say along those lines.

Despite being otherwise decent and intelligent people, my generation (baby boom) turned out for the most part to be horrible parents. They are, after all, responsible for the so-called "millennial", who in their turn gave rise to "generation Z", a raft of functional weaklings and toddlers in grown bodies who think they are smart, when in fact they are woefully the opposite, again speaking to the mean.
How did so bright a generation give rise to the utter wasteland that is the major portion of this most recent generation of "adults"? One major answer is actually quite simple: they fell for the bait of the likes of that scurrilous clown, Benjamin Spock, and decided they would be friends with their children, rather than proper parents, based on the false belief that it is important that they be liked by their offspring. Few things could be further from the truth. This may seem an innocent enough position to assume, but it is in fact the basis of the current destruction we are witnessing nationwide as the nation falls to wrack and ruin.

And so we have managed through our good intentions to muck the world up beyond all recognition, and possibly past the point of redemption. But being a low-IQ optimist, I cling to the barest hair-split of hope that this miasma of raving stupidity and abhorrently poor attitudes and habits may yet be corrected. But in order to do so, the first step will be to forgive each other: the young for our unintentional errors, and we, for their wildly misguided world views that, after all, were made possible due to our own errors in child-rearing.

Imagine the utter fit that Theye would have, were we, the warring parties to stop, shake hands, let bygones be bygones, and begin to rebuild the perceptual commons where decency, respect, good manners, basic sense, tolerance of the tolerable, and all the other blessings of freedom are the norm, the old becoming new once more. Theye (those in real material power in the world) would toss a colossal conniption and we would be able to confidently expect all manner of problems to arise, whether those of an economic nature, in finance, commodities, wars, and so forth, because the last thing they want is for you and I to shake hands and learn to become friendly. When that happens, Theye are finished, because without the manifold antagonisms that keep us divided, and therefore distracted, we would be free to come together as one in the political sense of recognizing who is the real enemy of humanity.


It's not Republicans or Democrats, lefties or righties, conservative or progressive, men or women: it's the elite and we could de-ball them in very short order, were we to forgive one another and get to the business of restoring liberty to the people of planet Earth.

We don't have to all be in love with one another. Certainly our differences would not vanish, but our reactions to those differences would. Rather than wishing all manner of horrors upon one another, we would respectfully disagree where we differ, yet be generous enough to allow each other our lives and views and preferences. Such as development would drive the Tyrant mad with frustration and fear because he already knows that the moment we stop the back-biting, we might turn eyes in common toward him, his lackeys, and begin to divine what it is he has really been doing to us all this time. In such a case, it would spell the end of things for them all, which means Theye must prevent it from occurring at any and all cost.


There is no possible way, short of nuking or plaguing the entire planet, that Theye can successfully dominate us if we refuse their false authority; authority that exists in terms of real world effect only because we accept it as real, when in fact it is literally nothing at all beyond mere belief. So long as we believe, we tend to comply. So long as we comply, the false assertion of authority becomes effectively real. It is a house of cards that stands because we fail to take in even the most meager breath, which is all that is required to blow it down to its very foundation.

Freedom is a heartbeat away, yet it is impossibly distant, not because it is itself impossible, but because we make it so when we play Theire game, nearly every one of us being in that diversion up to our eyeballs. Why else do we have so many people tearing out their hair with hatred for this one or those over there? Theye are whispering in our ears that the enemy threatens, whether it be horrible white males, black females, Muslims, Jews, Christians, and so on down the seemingly endless list of labels that provides objects of fear and hatred for every possible taste.

It's the gag-reel of all time; the biggest scam ever, and nearly every one of us have taken up with it hook, line, and sinker.

The most productive thing we could do at this very moment would be to stop playing, because participation is a loser by intent of design.

May 2023 prove better than 2022, and may we all forgive one another for our trespasses, real, imagined, and otherwise. What is past is done. Some of it has been indeed horrible, but when we think about it closely, most was really not so bad. We differ. We will always differ. Can we not move on now to more profitable things, such as restoring the liberties that Theye have convinced us to cede?


Imagine not living in red-alert mode, day in and day out. Imagine not being filled with rage, outrage, anger, and hatred, all emotions that have their places, but when taken in too generous measures soon becomes erosive of health, happiness, and liberty as we become prisoners of them. Imagine having the power to recognize the real enemies of humanity and turning your justifiable ire upon them! Imagine a world where courtesy reigned; where people were friendly despite holding differing opinions. Imagine a world better than the one in which we are now all inmates in a prison of our own contrivance!


It is possible. It is so close, you could kiss it if you chose to see. But so long as we remain in hate-fear mode, Theye shall remain powerful while we remain effectively weak, and that is the greatest and most shameful irony of them all. We, the humans from Earth, could end Themme in no time at all, even if the cost were to prove high. It can be done, but not if we are at one another's throats.


May the blessings of liberty be with us all, and until next time please accept my best wishes.

The worst aspects of Boomers is the tendency for selfishness through the end. They’re completely content with siphoning every last drop on their way out knowing full well the economic catastrophe left in the wake. It’s not enough they bought homes for a tenth the price they are today. Graduated college when degrees cost a part time job. Cars that were a few thousand bucks. After a lifetime of a high standard of living, they have really not much to show for it. I’m half their age and have multiple times their average wealth having worked a third less with all the modern headwinds of sky high prices for everything. So it’s really a joke. And I came from nothing. What I have from just personal savings demonstrates to me that Boomers, with all the tailwinds and silver spoons handed to them, were by far the most selfish generation ever. Really there’s no excuse for any Boomer to still be working today, let alone have a mortgage or any debt whatsoever, given the open layups they got in life. How every Boomer isn’t a multi-multi millionaire today just shows they blew most of their paychecks in the moment and their wealth is accidental home price appreciation.

On their way out, they’ll cling to every last penny of Social Security and Medicare and leave the disaster for Millennials to pick up the pieces. The inflation we grew up with wasn’t enough, apparently.

The satisfying aspect is the bill is coming due this decade, so most Boomers will get a taste of struggle. But 20 and 30 year olds have zero sympathy for traditional bureaucracy and entitlements. We’ll gladly not bail it out and not continue it. Similar to how we figured out how to break up all the old paradigms Boomers built and we had to reform. School choice is accelerating rapidly, no thanks to Boomers who had 50 years of voting to do anything about it.

Young evangelicals are also being revitalized by Christianity. Thanks to Boomers and the degenerate garbage they cheered on for society, we’re having to undo that as well. And Boomers stood by the wayside watching society fall, not caring, not lifting a finger. They don’t care. All they care about is a $1500 Social Security check they can blow the moment it gets direct deposited as young families struggle to even raise 1 kid.

Boomers, in general, just flat out haven’t cared outside of themselves. The proof is in the pudding everywhere you look. 50 years of political choices and they scoff at dumb Millennials who are picking up the pieces. Thanks for the $8 Big Macs, $500,000 homes, $100,000 college, $50,000 average car, etc. etc. But we can’t dare touch Social Security. Nahhh, gotta suck every dime out of those dumb Millennials. I’m just glad most Boomers will be 70-75 years old and the slack-jawed stupefied look on their faces when they realize they can’t blow their $1500 at the casino whenever the debt music stops playing.

 

[Gaddafi Duck]

In addition, Boomers aborted tens of millions of their kids. Abortion peaked in 1990-91, the tail end of Boomers having promiscuous relationships, or worse, aborting their 5th kid because they didn’t want to be burdened. Nothing speaks to the vanity of Boomers than everything they’ve done. Sky-high abortion rates, refusal to acknowledge unsustainable entitlements, etc.

Thanks for the cable TV bundle, massive teachers’ unions, and other garbage shit we’re jettisoning and reforming.

 

[osan]

The worst aspects of Boomers is the tendency for selfishness through the end.

Let us assume this is not only true, but that we are working with a reasonable definition of "selfishness". So what? Here you are parroting one of the left's most repulsive talking points - their endlessly idiotic tirade in condemnation of "selfishness". Surely you can do better than this... if you wanted to.

They’re completely content with siphoning every last drop on their way out knowing full well the economic catastrophe left in the wake.

Meaningless, substance-free assertion. What are you peddling here?

It’s not enough they bought homes for a tenth the price they are today.

Oh do go on while I break out my one-inch violin.

Graduated college when degrees cost a part time job.

Now you're talking pure nonsense. When I attended USC in 1976, it was the second most costly college in America, Colgate being the most $$$$ in those days. At nearly $6K a year, I finally left for UC Davis because that was $637/year, courtesy of the California taxpayer. So please do spare us the blanket assertions that are tantamount to bald-faced lies.

Cars that were a few thousand bucks.

Fuck's sake man, were you born this bitter?

After a lifetime of a high standard of living, they have really not much to show for it.

Well lessee... I completed work for seven degrees in five majors, all STEM areas. I don't consider it anything over which to brag, but I am most definitely not ashamed of it. I have a small farm, pulled down approximately $4.2 million in twelve years of dotcom insanity, and am comfortable enough. I have perhaps the best wife on the planet, friends for whom my kidneys and indeed my life would be theirs if they needed them. I know several bona fide geniuses, have lunched with a handful of Fortune 100 CEOs, wore $5,000 piece-built suits to work every day, managed huge software development projects, responsible for nearly a billion dollars of other people's money, was an MTS at Bell Labs... Honestly, if I think about it, I have a good deal for which to show, and I've not even gotten into my blacksmithing, piloting, shooting, and other grand interests... not to mention chasing some very worthy women, and on occasion catching one.

And I'm the poor trash of my circle. So what, exactly, are you going on about?

I’m half their age and have multiple times their average wealth having worked a third less with all the modern headwinds of sky high prices for everything. So it’s really a joke. And I came from nothing. What I have from just personal savings demonstrates to me that Boomers, with all the tailwinds and silver spoons handed to them, were by far the most selfish generation ever. Really there’s no excuse for any Boomer to still be working today, let alone have a mortgage or any debt whatsoever, given the open layups they got in life. How every Boomer isn’t a multi-multi millionaire today just shows they blew most of their paychecks in the moment and their wealth is accidental home price appreciation.

You really need to tap-dance the fuck out of here. I'm glad you've met with material success. I'm happy for anyone who can do it cleanly, and I'm assuming you have. But your generalizations border on the idiotic, I'm sorry to say.

On their way out, they’ll cling to every last penny of Social Security and Medicare and leave the disaster for Millennials to pick up the pieces. The inflation we grew up with wasn’t enough, apparently.

You appear quite fond of spewing innuendo-laced nonsense. Before uttering more, I'd suggest you go into one of the many bathrooms in your mansion and take a good hard look at who's in the mirror, gawking back at you.

The satisfying aspect is the bill is coming due this decade, so most Boomers will get a taste of struggle.

Now you're just being an ass. You want to know about struggle? I could have you in a heap on the floor. The shit I went through you would not even believe, so once again spare us your bile-laced sanctimony.

But 20 and 30 year olds have zero sympathy for traditional bureaucracy and entitlements.

You lie. That generation is more in love with those things than any other I can recall, and my memory is quite sharp on such matters. You have no credibility.

We’ll gladly not bail it out and not continue it.

Bull.

Shit.

The scoundrels will say "jump", and you pansies will say "how high, mazza?" GenX is the weakest, most stridently ignorant generation yet, and I will cop to some responsibility of the Boomers for that, what with their misguided good intentions in raising the weak-kneed millennial generation, and here I speak of the statistical mean, fully well acknowledging there are exceptions to every rule. Gauss was a bright boy.

Similar to how we figured out how to break up all the old paradigms Boomers built and we had to reform. School choice is accelerating rapidly, no thanks to Boomers who had 50 years of voting to do anything about it.

You assholes didn't do fuckall. You blindly accepted the bullshit that was spoon-fed to you and which your parents didn't have the sense to smack the crap out of you to straighten your sorry, fragile, brittle, weak asses out.

Thanks to Boomers and the degenerate garbage they cheered on for society,

Wow, finally we agree on something. This is certainly the case, but the same can be said for generations prior as well.

we’re having to undo that as well.

Oh Sally, you're not undoing a damned thing. You're being lead around by your noses at the hands of those who are just about keeling over from laughing at just how abominably stupid you all are. Get. The. Fuck. Out. Judging by what you've written here, you don't know squat. You think you're smart, but you're not nearly so much so.

And Boomers stood by the wayside watching society fall,

Not all of us did, but were you amend your statement to that of a statistical nature, we would agree. We've been doing this for THOUSANDS of years. Have you not been paying attention? Go learn some history and get some wisdom which thus far has evaded you.

not lifting a finger.

More bullshit and lies. Clue time: my generation and the one previous brought you spoiled little cock-suckers the world you take for granted. I was part of the intellectual juggernaut that built the global network. I worked with people of such intellect, they'd crush you as an afterthought. I worked with guys like Kernighan and has a several month-long email war with Stroustrup over whether C++ should become the SOE for AT&T's development endeavors. I've worked on a jet-black project where I was probably the least intelligent team member, the leaders being of such magnitude that I guaRONtee you have never known such blinding creative force. GenZ is a raft of fairy-hopping cry-babies who would never have been able to reproduce what my generation churned out in volumes so staggering, you'd fall to the floor in shame, were you even 10% smart enough to realize what utter shit you are peddling here.

So really, do spare us your phony baloney indignation and venom. You don't have what it takes to wrestle even with me, much less a truly smart man of my generation.

Now go fuck off and leave the talking to the adults in the room. This is no place for loud-mouthed twerps.

Come back when you grow up a little bit.

 

[ClaytonB]

I don't care to blame the Boomers. But I am angry that the vision of the Founding Fathers was destroyed, most of it in the post-war era. I don't believe the Boomers themselves caused that... the only people to blame are the ruling elites, the very same elites who sent their parents off to the battlefields of Europe, Japan and Korea. They have destroyed every square inch of American culture with their infinity-cash printing-press.

I just wish I could afford to rent a curbside cardboard box despite earning an above-median income. I seriously cannot figure out how 50+% of this country is even surviving...

 

[PAF]

I don't care to blame the Boomers. But I am angry that the vision of the Founding Fathers was destroyed, most of it in the post-war era. I don't believe the Boomers themselves caused that... the only people to blame are the ruling elites, the very same elites who sent their parents off to the battlefields of Europe, Japan and Korea. They have destroyed every square inch of American culture with their infinity-cash printing-press.

I just wish I could afford to rent a curbside cardboard box despite earning an above-median income. I seriously cannot figure out how 50+% of this country is even surviving...

Yep, I agree. But to which founding fathers are you referring? The Anti-Federalists? Or the ones who signed that Centralist Constitution?

It's like saying Springfield... Illinois vs Massachusetts, which are worlds apart.

 

[CCTelander]

Let us assume this is not only true, but that we are working with a reasonable definition of "selfishness". So what? Here you are parroting one of the left's most repulsive talking points - their endlessly idiotic tirade in condemnation of "selfishness". Surely you can do better than this... if you wanted to.



Meaningless, substance-free assertion. What are you peddling here?



Oh do go on while I break out my one-inch violin.



Now you're talking pure nonsense. When I attended USC in 1976, it was the second most costly college in America, Colgate being the most $$$$ in those days. At nearly $6K a year, I finally left for UC Davis because that was $637/year, courtesy of the California taxpayer. So please do spare us the blanket assertions that are tantamount to bald-faced lies.



Fuck's sake man, were you born this bitter?



Well lessee... I completed work for seven degrees in five majors, all STEM areas. I don't consider it anything over which to brag, but I am most definitely not ashamed of it. I have a small farm, pulled down approximately $4.2 million in twelve years of dotcom insanity, and am comfortable enough. I have perhaps the best wife on the planet, friends for whom my kidneys and indeed my life would be theirs if they needed them. I know several bona fide geniuses, have lunched with a handful of Fortune 100 CEOs, wore $5,000 piece-built suits to work every day, managed huge software development projects, responsible for nearly a billion dollars of other people's money, was an MTS at Bell Labs... Honestly, if I think about it, I have a good deal for which to show, and I've not even gotten into my blacksmithing, piloting, shooting, and other grand interests... not to mention chasing some very worthy women, and on occasion catching one.

And I'm the poor trash of my circle. So what, exactly, are you going on about?




You really need to tap-dance the fuck out of here. I'm glad you've met with material success. I'm happy for anyone who can do it cleanly, and I'm assuming you have. But your generalizations border on the idiotic, I'm sorry to say.




You appear quite fond of spewing innuendo-laced nonsense. Before uttering more, I'd suggest you go into one of the many bathrooms in your mansion and take a good hard look at who's in the mirror, gawking back at you.



Now you're just being an ass. You want to know about struggle? I could have you in a heap on the floor. The shit I went through you would not even believe, so once again spare us your bile-laced sanctimony.



You lie. That generation is more in love with those things than any other I can recall, and my memory is quite sharp on such matters. You have no credibility.



Bull.

Shit.

The scoundrels will say "jump", and you pansies will say "how high, mazza?" GenX is the weakest, most stridently ignorant generation yet, and I will cop to some responsibility of the Boomers for that, what with their misguided good intentions in raising the weak-kneed millennial generation, and here I speak of the statistical mean, fully well acknowledging there are exceptions to every rule. Gauss was a bright boy.




You assholes didn't do fuckall. You blindly accepted the bullshit that was spoon-fed to you and which your parents didn't have the sense to smack the crap out of you to straighten your sorry, fragile, brittle, weak asses out.



Wow, finally we agree on something. This is certainly the case, but the same can be said for generations prior as well.



Oh Sally, you're not undoing a damned thing. You're being lead around by your noses at the hands of those who are just about keeling over from laughing at just how abominably stupid you all are. Get. The. Fuck. Out. Judging by what you've written here, you don't know squat. You think you're smart, but you're not nearly so much so.



Not all of us did, but were you amend your statement to that of a statistical nature, we would agree. We've been doing this for THOUSANDS of years. Have you not been paying attention? Go learn some history and get some wisdom which thus far has evaded you.




More bullshit and lies. Clue time: my generation and the one previous brought you spoiled little cock-suckers the world you take for granted. I was part of the intellectual juggernaut that built the global network. I worked with people of such intellect, they'd crush you as an afterthought. I worked with guys like Kernighan and has a several month-long email war with Stroustrup over whether C++ should become the SOE for AT&T's development endeavors. I've worked on a jet-black project where I was probably the least intelligent team member, the leaders being of such magnitude that I guaRONtee you have never known such blinding creative force. GenZ is a raft of fairy-hopping cry-babies who would never have been able to reproduce what my generation churned out in volumes so staggering, you'd fall to the floor in shame, were you even 10% smart enough to realize what utter shit you are peddling here.

So really, do spare us your phony baloney indignation and venom. You don't have what it takes to wrestle even with me, much less a truly smart man of my generation.

Now go fuck off and leave the talking to the adults in the room. This is no place for loud-mouthed twerps.

Come back when you grow up a little bit.

The butthurt is strong with that one.

 

[osan]

I don't care to blame the Boomers. But I am angry that the vision of the Founding Fathers was destroyed, most of it in the post-war era. I don't believe the Boomers themselves caused that... the only people to blame are the ruling elites, the very same elites who sent their parents off to the battlefields of Europe, Japan and Korea. They have destroyed every square inch of American culture with their infinity-cash printing-press.

I just wish I could afford to rent a curbside cardboard box despite earning an above-median income. I seriously cannot figure out how 50+% of this country is even surviving...

I think we are all to blame. The history of America is the ultimate human tragedy, and not because of <URP> <DERP> slavery.

Once free of the king's immediate clutches, we should have become as wild and ravening predators, ready to bring to death anyone from "government" who dared so much as suggest some measure that would in even the least measure tiptoe upon the rights of free men. But we had everything against us. Our general Christian/Jewish upbringings and the mannerliness of those cultures pretty well guaRONteed we'd no become the monsters we should have been in response to the least measure of "governmental" trespass. Then there was the thousands of years of breeding to the king's halter. One does not escape that so easily. Then there are the deep and manifold flaws of the Constitution which we have failed to correct.

Each successive failure built upon all those of the past, and now here we stand. Some of it could perhaps not have been helped, given the overall circumstances, but I think most of it could have. We chose.

 

[osan]

The butthurt is strong with that one.

With which one?

 

[CCTelander]

With which one?

The one that’s not you.

 

[osan]

The one that’s not you.

Ah... I'm slow, but you've probably figured that out by now.

 

[CCTelander]

Ah... I'm slow, but you've probably figured that out by now.

I probably could have been clearer but then it wouldn’t have matched the quote1

 

[ClaytonB]

Once free of the king's immediate clutches, we should have become as wild and ravening predators, ready to bring to death anyone from "government" who dared so much as suggest some measure that would in even the least measure tiptoe upon the rights of free men. But we had everything against us. Our general Christian/Jewish upbringings and the mannerliness of those cultures pretty well guaRONteed we'd no become the monsters we should have been in response to the least measure of "governmental" trespass. Then there was the thousands of years of breeding to the king's halter. One does not escape that so easily. Then there are the deep and manifold flaws of the Constitution which we have failed to correct.

Yeah, I don't agree with that. The "freedom" you are describing is like the "freedom" that beasts have. But they are not free, are they, since they are shackled in the chains of the cruelest slaver of all: Nature. Freedom comes only from God and his Gospel. We should stand up for freedom, and we should set the example of what it means to live freely, in the light, as the saints have done for centuries, often at the cost of their life. And a just government would empower us to defend our natural rights and freedoms with the backing power of the law, rather than impeding them. So, you and I agree that we're all to blame, to some extent.

 

[PAF]

Yeah, I don't agree with that. The "freedom" you are describing is like the "freedom" that beasts have. But they are not free, are they, since they are shackled in the chains of the cruelest slaver of all: Nature. Freedom comes only from God and his Gospel. We should stand up for freedom, and we should set the example of what it means to live freely, in the light, as the saints have done for centuries, often at the cost of their life. And a just government would empower us to defend our natural rights and freedoms with the backing power of the law, rather than impeding them. So, you and I agree that we're all to blame, to some extent.

Ah, no.

Recall what government is: an organization with a monopoly of force within a certain geographical area.

Here I want you to distinguish government from society. They are not only two totally different things, but are potentially antithetical to each other. This is because the essence of government is force, not voluntary cooperation. Everything that people think the government provides (beyond some forms of protection) is really provided by society, or with resources the government has taken from society. It’s critical to understand this, or you won’t see the slippery slope the US is now sliding on.

Is there any chance that the US government can reform and go back to a sustainable basis at this point?

I’d say no.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?562999-Bankruptcy-of-the-US-Government

 

[Gaddafi Duck]

Let us assume this is not only true, but that we are working with a reasonable definition of "selfishness". So what? Here you are parroting one of the left's most repulsive talking points - their endlessly idiotic tirade in condemnation of "selfishness". Surely you can do better than this... if you wanted to.



Meaningless, substance-free assertion. What are you peddling here?



Oh do go on while I break out my one-inch violin.



Now you're talking pure nonsense. When I attended USC in 1976, it was the second most costly college in America, Colgate being the most $$$$ in those days. At nearly $6K a year, I finally left for UC Davis because that was $637/year, courtesy of the California taxpayer. So please do spare us the blanket assertions that are tantamount to bald-faced lies.



$#@!'s sake man, were you born this bitter?



Well lessee... I completed work for seven degrees in five majors, all STEM areas. I don't consider it anything over which to brag, but I am most definitely not ashamed of it. I have a small farm, pulled down approximately $4.2 million in twelve years of dotcom insanity, and am comfortable enough. I have perhaps the best wife on the planet, friends for whom my kidneys and indeed my life would be theirs if they needed them. I know several bona fide geniuses, have lunched with a handful of Fortune 100 CEOs, wore $5,000 piece-built suits to work every day, managed huge software development projects, responsible for nearly a billion dollars of other people's money, was an MTS at Bell Labs... Honestly, if I think about it, I have a good deal for which to show, and I've not even gotten into my blacksmithing, piloting, shooting, and other grand interests... not to mention chasing some very worthy women, and on occasion catching one.

And I'm the poor trash of my circle. So what, exactly, are you going on about?




You really need to tap-dance the $#@! out of here. I'm glad you've met with material success. I'm happy for anyone who can do it cleanly, and I'm assuming you have. But your generalizations border on the idiotic, I'm sorry to say.




You appear quite fond of spewing innuendo-laced nonsense. Before uttering more, I'd suggest you go into one of the many bathrooms in your mansion and take a good hard look at who's in the mirror, gawking back at you.



Now you're just being an ass. You want to know about struggle? I could have you in a heap on the floor. The $#@! I went through you would not even believe, so once again spare us your bile-laced sanctimony.



You lie. That generation is more in love with those things than any other I can recall, and my memory is quite sharp on such matters. You have no credibility.



Bull.

$#@!.

The scoundrels will say "jump", and you pansies will say "how high, mazza?" GenX is the weakest, most stridently ignorant generation yet, and I will cop to some responsibility of the Boomers for that, what with their misguided good intentions in raising the weak-kneed millennial generation, and here I speak of the statistical mean, fully well acknowledging there are exceptions to every rule. Gauss was a bright boy.




You $#@!s didn't do $#@!all. You blindly accepted the bull$#@! that was spoon-fed to you and which your parents didn't have the sense to smack the crap out of you to straighten your sorry, fragile, brittle, weak asses out.



Wow, finally we agree on something. This is certainly the case, but the same can be said for generations prior as well.



Oh Sally, you're not undoing a damned thing. You're being lead around by your noses at the hands of those who are just about keeling over from laughing at just how abominably stupid you all are. Get. The. $#@!. Out. Judging by what you've written here, you don't know squat. You think you're smart, but you're not nearly so much so.



Not all of us did, but were you amend your statement to that of a statistical nature, we would agree. We've been doing this for THOUSANDS of years. Have you not been paying attention? Go learn some history and get some wisdom which thus far has evaded you.




More bull$#@! and lies. Clue time: my generation and the one previous brought you spoiled little cock-suckers the world you take for granted. I was part of the intellectual juggernaut that built the global network. I worked with people of such intellect, they'd crush you as an afterthought. I worked with guys like Kernighan and has a several month-long email war with Stroustrup over whether C++ should become the SOE for AT&T's development endeavors. I've worked on a jet-black project where I was probably the least intelligent team member, the leaders being of such magnitude that I guaRONtee you have never known such blinding creative force. GenZ is a raft of fairy-hopping cry-babies who would never have been able to reproduce what my generation churned out in volumes so staggering, you'd fall to the floor in shame, were you even 10% smart enough to realize what utter $#@! you are peddling here.

So really, do spare us your phony baloney indignation and venom. You don't have what it takes to wrestle even with me, much less a truly smart man of my generation.

Now go $#@! off and leave the talking to the adults in the room. This is no place for loud-mouthed twerps.

Come back when you grow up a little bit.

Boomer asks questions then cries about the answers. I’m in awe of your life story, truly I am. And it’s led you to 16,000+ posts on an Internet message board. Suffice to say retirement ain’t what it’s cracked up to be.

Liberals complaining about selfishness is just envy that they want it for themselves, essentially becoming the selfish they criticize. That’s not me talking about Boomers. I don’t envy Boomers. I point out how after a lifetime of Easy Street, will full awareness of the economic plight of younger generations thanks to the demolition and deindustrialization thanks to Boomer voting habits, Boomers won’t lift a finger to phase out entitlements. They’d rather have it choke every last cent they can out of young families before they’d admit it’s for the best to wind these nightmares down.

That’s the selfishness Boomers have. It ain’t anything like Lefties who desire and covet others’ stuff. I have zero interest in entitlements. Boomers love it.

Proof is in the pudding, buddy. Look at the size of government. Thank Boomers for that. I do laugh at how Millennials have began the homeschooling boom. When I was a kid, Boomers all thought homeschooled kids were default weird and the entire concept was a laughing joke. Thanks for juicing the teachers’ unions and encumbering my property tax bill with 28 line-items of bonds from decades past.

Like I said, abortions peaked in 1990 at 1.4+ million—overwhelmingly by Boomers; today we have 600k—overwhelmingly Millennials. With 83 million more people in the US. Millennials aren’t butchering their offspring like Boomers did. There’s the selfishness spoken of right there. We’re correcting so many of Boomer wrongs.

Thanks for the cable TV bundle, though. It is amusing to look back on stupid shit Boomers were accustomed to. High bureaucracy, deterioration of quality, etc. etc.

Thanks for being handed the greatest economic machine in human history and proceeding to squander it like drunk socialites while condescendingly patting everyone else on the head.

Boomers: Born on 3rd Base and they all believe they hit a triple.

 

[Gaddafi Duck]

The butthurt is strong with that one.

Literally answering smug Boomers who disingenuously complain and take responsibility that it’s really all their fault because they were too good of parents to us. Awwww…hahahahaha. Hilarious.

Enjoy retirement, Boomers. We’ll let entitlements go their natural way in the next few years, and we’ll fix all these broken industries like education.

Thanks again for those cable TV bundles. Boomer mentality.

 

[tod evans]

Boomers: Born on 3rd Base and they all believe they hit a triple.

This Boomer split wood for heat growing up, there was no back-up and no air-conditioning. We gardened and canned, raised and butchered our own meat and Mom sewed most of our clothes, there were six of is kids. Dad traveled all week in order to earn enough to cover the bills.
Maybe you see golden opportunities looking back on a time you never experienced, but that's always the case, especially for those who harbor a victim mentality.
Politicians more than any group guide/misguide society, that fact has been true for many generations yet all of the voting age generations continue to play by their rules. My generation didn't have the spine to reign them in and from where I'm sitting yours certainly doesn't. You Millennials do whine and complain very well. (Doesn't group-think suck?)
All of us were given a clearly written instruction manual on how to conduct the business of governing society and every generation has permitted those documents to be altered and amended, even interpreted differently than the clearly written instructions, then we collectively pat ourselves on the back for advancing society whilst it crumbles around us.
All of us deserve this mess we've created because we tolerate it.