ayn rand -- i think my head is about to explode

[kylejack]

Has nothing to do with gender. Fact is, she used the wrong word. I think I know her intending meaning but I guess she never bothered to look up the word 'corporation'.

Please cite your source. Where did she use the wrong word? Where did she say what you're claiming about corporations?

 

[Edward]

Has nothing to do with gender. Fact is, she used the wrong word. I think I know her intended mean but I guess she never bothered to look up the word 'corporation'.

Which again raises the question: Where above did she use the word "corporation"?

 

[JosephTheLibertarian]

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showpost.php?p=309875&postcount=61 here.

 

[kylejack]

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showpost.php?p=309875&postcount=61 here.

That post does not contain a quote from Ayn Rand about corporations. Work on your reading comprehension.

 

[JosephTheLibertarian]

That post does not contain a quote from Ayn Rand about corporations. Work on your reading comprehension.

She has used the word in the same context, jackass

 

[kylejack]

She has used the word in the same context, jackass

I'll ask you again to cite your source.

 

[huchahucha]

About Ayn Rand and caring for others, from my interpretation of her work I never got the impression she was against caring as long as it was done voluntarily. The idea is that if you give charity it should be because you can, not because you were coerced by others making you feel guilty. You have to remember she grew up in Soviet Russia where the concept of the greater good was constantly shoved down her throat. Giving away something of value (time, money, etc.) to someone you don't know and might not even like because a group of people manipulated you into feeling guilty is foolish. Giving something of value because you have an abundance and you believe what you are doing is beneficial to both you and the person receiving is admirable.

 

[JosephTheLibertarian]

I'll ask you again to cite your source.

You're a waste of my time. You didn't even know that Ayn Rand was a woman.

 

[kylejack]

You're a waste of my time. You didn't even know that Ayn Rand was a woman.

Yes I did. I've read every book she's written. I was asking you if you meant to be critiquing Leonard Peikoff's comments as he is a he, rather than Ayn Rand. Three times I've asked you to cite your source where Ayn Rand was talking about corporations in this manner. Three times you've failed, and on top of that, you called me a jackass. If you're going to critique something Ayn Rand allegedly said, you'll have to cite a source.

 

[Edward]

You're a waste of my time. You didn't even know that Ayn Rand was a woman.

The specific reference to "corporations" was not attributed to Rand, but to Leonard Peikoff... a man.

She does not talk much about corporations but here is some of here thoughts on the subject:

Ayn Rand on Contracts:

In a free society, men are not forced to deal with one anther. They do so only by voluntary agreement and , when a time element is involved, by contract. If a contract is broken by the arbitrary decision of one man, it may cause a disastrous financial injury to the other..... This leads to one of the most important and most complex functions of government: to the function of an arbiter who settles disputes among men according to objective law.

Leonard Peikoff (another objectivist) on Corportations:

A corporation is a union of human being in a voluntary, cooperative endeavor. It exemplifies the principle of free association, which is an expression of the right ot freedom. Any attributes which corporations have are attributes (or rights) which the individuals have-including the right to combine in a certain way, offer products under certain terms, and deal with others according to certain rules, for instance, limited liability.
An individual can say to a shopkeeper, " I would like to have credit, but I put you on notice that if I can't pay, you can't attach my home-take it or leave it:. The shopkeeper is a cooperative productive endeavor which gives a similar waring explicitly. It has no mystical attributes, no attributes that don't go back to the rights of individuals, including their rights of free association.


BTW: I have mixed feelings personally about corporations.

 

[JosephTheLibertarian]

Oh, it's kylejack, not jackass. I guess I have to work on that reading comprehension more.

 

[kylejack]

Oh, it's kylejack, not jackass. I guess I have to work on that reading comprehension more.

If you want to call me names, that's fine. But I'm still interested in a citation.

Unless you'd like to back away from your claims about what Ayn Rand said, of course.