Austin: Libertarian BLM Protester Shot Dead

[Occam's Banana]

How can one support BLM which is a Marxist organization and the Liberterian party? They are mutually exclusive IMO.

The LP presidential candidate is quite the enigma this year for that very reason.

What enigma?

Politicians gonna pander. Wanna-be politicians gonna pander, too.

Mystery solved.

 

[eleganz]

ON CAMERA

He said that if he used his AK47 against the cops hes (I'm) dead. Everyone else is too pssy to do anything about it


So basically hes only using it because he thinks people are afraid of him.

And thats why this libertarian got shot in the head.

https://twitter.com/joetalkshow/status/1287531927449358336?s=21

 

[Anti Federalist]

First of all, I always thought AK-47s were illegal outside of purchasing them from collectors. I thought they had to be made before 1986 or something like that. Nothing positive comes from carrying something like that to a rio-errrr, protest. Unless the British are trying to quarter soldiers in your town, open carrying an AK-47 is retarded.

OK, let me break this down for you:

Fully automatic weapons have been heavily regulated and controlled since the 1934 National Firearms Act. In order not to violate the 2nd Amendment, the regulations are couched as "taxes". To legally purchase a full auto firearm, or many other weapons that are "Class III NFA" regulated (short barrel shotguns, grenade launchers and so on), you must pay a $200 tax, submit to background checks, ATF will open a file on you and monitor you for the rest of your life and fill out a mountain of paperwork and then wait six months.

In 1986 Ronnie Raygun signed the McClure/Volkmer Firearms Owner's Protection Act, which, in exchange for certain "protections" banned the production and sale of all new automatic weapons under NFA regulation. (That is the only true firearm ban ever passed.)

None of that applies to what I am sure this guy was carrying...a SEMI auto rifle, which is not even a true "Avtomat Kalashnikova" as it is not "avtomat" or automatic.

Now, ATF waffles and flips-flops and throws up clouds of regulations that limits importation of certain classes of firearms as "having no sporting value", getting a fully assembled, semi auto AK-47 clone is difficult at times.

But if you assemble one from parts and use more than 10 US made parts in that assembly, it will pass muster for import.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

He shot 5 times and missed all of them. From the video it sounds like the 2nd volley was the driver returning fire.

Scumbag menaces a motorist with an angry mob while armed in a gun-heavy state and gets shot. Why should anyone care, again?

Some are claiming he shot first. He deserved everything he got. The libertarian movement is a complete and utter failure on every conceivable level, and the fact that people like this are attracted to it is yet another manifestation.

That rumor has been floating around, but is disputed by official sources. The Libertarian never fired. The first shots were fired by the driver, the other shots a little later were another protester with a pistol that fired at the car as it fled. That other protester was arrested.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

There were eyewitness accounts on Twitter. Some were a bit different than the "official" news story. They said that people were around the vehicle beating on it, and the guy who got killed walked up to the driver's window and pointed at his own gun. They say the driver is co-operating with police, so no doubt his story is that he was under attack and a guy came up to his window with a gun in a threatening manner. People have shot drivers at these protests, so it will be hard to dismiss that fear as being unreasonable.

As expected. Driver’s story is that he was under attack and the guy walked up to his window pointing the weapon at him.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

 

[TheCount]

 

[phill4paul]

There were eyewitness accounts on Twitter. Some were a bit different than the "official" news story. They said that people were around the vehicle beating on it, and the guy who got killed walked up to the driver's window and pointed at his own gun. They say the driver is co-operating with police, so no doubt his story is that he was under attack and a guy came up to his window with a gun in a threatening manner. People have shot drivers at these protests, so it will be hard to dismiss that fear as being unreasonable.

Yeah. It's gonna be a shit show of "he said, she said."

This could all be avoided if water cannons were used to clear roadways of protesters, so that...well...fucking vehicles could use them.

 

[phill4paul]

Cartoon should read "Let me out and we'll fight the right." Not too many on the right have a Panda Furry fetish and a purple backpack. That's all leftist. All the way. Why libertarians choose to court them I'll never know why. Dip-shits being dip-shits I guess.

 

[phill4paul]

It's not really an AK-47 just like an AR-15 isn't really an M16/M4.





There's been quite a surge in 2nd amendment / gun rights / gun ownership among the BLM crowd as a result of recent events.


I eagerly await the results of this change... it should be hilarious.

Like the dip-shits of NFAC that shot themselves up? Lol. Yeah, this should become highly entertaining.

 

[Okie RP fan]

Some of what BLM was doing had some of my support in the beginning.
Once they were taken over by Marxists, nope. Bye bye, you all are no longer credible.

It's sad another person lost their life in this entire mess. I think that's been one of the intended consequences of all this chaos, though.
But, I'm very much at the point in all of this where, while it does hurt to see so much death, destruction, etc. it does have a callousing effect after a while.

 

[John-G]

He was there everyday, already too far gone down the left libertarian SJW mindset. I think his wife played a big role, she was black and a quadruple amputee, so he was probably highly emotionally attached to a white knight type syndrome. Must save wife via BLM'ing.

Didn't help that the LP nominee put it out there that libertarians can't just be not racist, that we all must be anti-racist (or ANTIRA)

Every wrong done by any libertarian is blamed ultimately on the LP nominee and party. This is never done to the republican or democrat party, makes one wonder why some people are so disgusted by any challenge to the major 2 parties?

 

[69360]

Every wrong done by any libertarian is blamed ultimately on the LP nominee and party. This is never done to the republican or democrat party, makes one wonder why some people are so disgusted by any challenge to the major 2 parties?

Nobody has ever blamed Trump for the actions of idiots? Seriously? That happens every fucking day! Rightfully so at times.

 

[John-G]

Nobody has ever blamed Trump for the actions of idiots? Seriously? That happens every $#@!ing day! Rightfully so at times.

Well, CNN and MSNBC don't really count. I was talking about the supposedly sane people in this forum. Jo has explained what she means by being anti racism and yet people continue to claim that she supports the marxist BLM movement instead of just supporting the sentiment. I think there is a segment of the forum who are irrational and even unhinged about anything libertarian party, if they are not perfect in every way shape or form then there are no good to humanity and in fact are seen as worse than the totality of the republican and democratic party.

 

[cruzrulez]

Confused libtard commie violates NAP, gets ventilated, and nothing of value was lost. :bigpoo::bigpoo::bigpoo:

 

[devil21]

Well, CNN and MSNBC don't really count. I was talking about the supposedly sane people in this forum. Jo has explained what she means by being anti racism and yet people continue to claim that she supports the marxist BLM movement instead of just supporting the sentiment. I think there is a segment of the forum who are irrational and even unhinged about anything libertarian party, if they are not perfect in every way shape or form then there are no good to humanity and in fact are seen as worse than the totality of the republican and democratic party.

There are some here who, of course, are not libertarian in any sense, are 100% authoritarian statists, who want to see anything associated with liberty/freedom/self-determination destroyed permanently, so they post every little thing they can find to smear libertarians collectively. Those that engage in such things are closet communist infiltrators themselves LARPing under the guise of being conservative/libertarian. The tactics are straight out of Alinsky's Rules for Radicals, the socialist/communist playbook.

It's not very difficult to pick them out, seeing how they come on LIBERTY FOREST and do nothing but push overt statism and bash anything LIBERTY oriented.

On topic: It's a shame that the young man became collateral damage. I don't have a problem with marching against police brutality or protesting the federal over-reach that's invaded every aspect of our lives. I marched with BLM in the very early days, before it was taken over by paid Soros types, here in Charlotte, after the Keith Scott killing. It was peaceful and was nice, at the time, to see people actually motivated to get off the couch and assemble for a cause that the left and libertarians generally hold as common ground views (and the right did at one time before neocons took over and turned the right into authority worshipping drones after 9/11). The crowds were very diverse with all ages, races and political leanings tired of the militarized police state. Getting caught up in that mess today is a recipe for bad things to happen however, as that young man learned. :sigh: Best to stay away and let the idiots on both sides weed each other out of the gene pool.

 

[cruzrulez]

There are some here who, of course, are not libertarian in any sense, are 100% authoritarian statists, who want to see anything associated with liberty/freedom/self-determination destroyed permanently, so they post every little thing they can find to smear libertarians collectively. Those that engage in such things are closet communist infiltrators themselves LARPing under the guise of being conservative/libertarian. The tactics are straight out of Alinsky's Rules for Radicals, the socialist/communist playbook.

It's not very difficult to pick them out, seeing how they come on LIBERTY FOREST and do nothing but push overt statism and bash anything LIBERTY oriented.

This place is called Ron Paul forums, not libertarian central. There have been plenty of times the left leaning "libertarians" on this forum make a broad statement, and days later Ron makes a video which would contradict them. That was a testament of how well Ron built his coalition. Unfortunately it's largely fallen apart since 2012.

 

[devil21]

This place is called Ron Paul forums, not libertarian central. There have been plenty of times the left leaning "libertarians" on this forum make a broad statement, and days later Ron makes a video which would contradict them. That was a testament of how well Ron built his coalition. Unfortunately it's largely fallen apart since 2012.

That's weird, because the banner says LIBERTY FOREST.

I get that you're relatively new here and don't appear to interact much but the original RP campaigns brought in all kinds of political leanings, but the one thing we all had in common was the sense that government was becoming way too intrusive in every day life. Unlike the lockstep hive minds of the left and right, libertarian school of thought is that people are inherently free to live their lives as they see fit, without a nanny state dictating everything to them. The right loves a nanny state to "keep us safe" while the left loves a nanny state to "bail us out of bad choices". I don't agree with fellow libertarians on everything, even the ones I very much like. That is what individualism and freedom is about. And if we don't agree on everything it doesn't mean that we hate each other for it. That hate mindset is what many operatives spend hours a day trying to reinforce because smaller, divided, groups are easier to control and impedes large, uncontrolled, groups from coming together to oppose what affects us all.

 

[oyarde]

First of all, I always thought AK-47s were illegal outside of purchasing them from collectors. I thought they had to be made before 1986 or something like that. Nothing positive comes from carrying something like that to a rio-errrr, protest. Unless the British are trying to quarter soldiers in your town, open carrying an AK-47 is retarded.


I watched the video from the dash cam of a car. The streets were filled with people blocking traffic. They weren't obeying walk signs. They were making the flow of traffic very difficult. The shooter turned down a street and he was swarmed by people like locusts pounding on his car. If some guy in a bandana has an AK-47 and is approaching a car in a mob of people, he no longer needs to be living. That is an aggressive action.

Lots of things are legal if you pay all the kings taxes to the federal fuedal Lords and open yourself to inspections . But , pretty hard to get ammo for a grenade launcher which makes me sad.

 

[cruzrulez]

That's weird, because the banner says LIBERTY FOREST.

take a closer look at the URL of this website and the main banner.