Audio update - Rand Paul on The Michael Medved Show 1/19/12

[belian78]

potential RP successors:

Justin Amash (MI)
Tom Davis (SC State Senator)
Thomas Massie (sp?) (KY)

and I also believe there might be dozens of future RPs in politics, and at least 100 highly influential activists (Tom Woods, Peter Schiff level of influence).

Let's not forget our very own Gunny.

 

[Mini-Me]

Let's not forget our very own Gunny.

Definitely. I didn't mention him by name since his preferred strategy involves state politics, but Glen Bradley is absolutely someone who could in time become our torchbearer. Massie also looks to be fantastic, and Davis shocked me with the conviction of his support.

 

[Brett85]

Said he'd support the nominee if it was not Ron. Did I hear that right??

Yes. He's a United States Senator who wants to have a future within the party.

 

[Brett85]

I think Rand gets way too much credit for simply being Ron's son. He is much more willing to compromise and is not nearly as interested in maximizing liberty. I like his voice against things like SOPA and the NDAA, but when it comes to bucking the establishment he falls into line far too often (sanctions on Iran, would support federal gay marriage ban).

I really hope someone else takes up Ron Paul's mantle.

He doesn't support a federal gay marriage ban. He thinks it should be a state issue, like Ron.

 

[Shane Harris]

I too have been very impressed with State Senator Davis this past week. The guy mentioned Rothbard in his endorsement speech for goodness sake. he takes classes online at LvMI. He seems very promising to me. Any legitimate fan of Rothbard and LvMI is a fan to this movement. IMO I wouldn't be surprised if Davis knew more about economics than Rand. I have never really heard Rand speak on Austrian economics or LvMI at length.

 

[Mini-Me]

I too have been very impressed with State Senator Davis this past week. The guy mentioned Rothbard in his endorsement speech for goodness sake. he takes classes online at LvMI. He seems very promising to me. Any legitimate fan of Rothbard and LvMI is a fan to this movement. IMO I wouldn't be surprised if Davis knew more about economics than Rand. I have never really heard Rand speak on Austrian economics or LvMI at length.

I don't know. Ron probably read Mises books to Rand as bedtime stories.

Seriously though, I am also duly impressed with Davis.

 

[jct74]

if anyone wants to catch the replay, coming up in a few minutes here:
http://www.nwrnetwork.com/listen/player.asp?station=wogo-am

edit: stream sucks pretty bad, keeps cutting out

 

[matt0611]

potential RP successors:

Justin Amash (MI)
Tom Davis (SC State Senator)
Thomas Massie (sp?) (KY)

and I also believe there might be dozens of future RPs in politics, and at least 100 highly influential activists from all walks of life (Tom Woods, Peter Schiff level of influence).

Karen Kitowski (sp?) is also quite promising. She's running for congress in Virginia. Shes written articles on Lew Rockwell. Served as an officer in the US Air Force. Maybe not exactly Presidential material but potential for a great congresswoman.

 

[low preference guy]

Karen Kitowski (sp?) is also quite promising. She's running for congress in Virginia. Shes written articles on Lew Rockwell. Served as an officer in the US Air Force. Maybe not exactly Presidential material but potential for a great congresswoman.

I was just mentioning elected officials, but she is excellent of course.

 

[Crotale]

Don't forget Adam Kokesh or Karen Kwiatowski (sp?). They could also be future liberty torch bearers.

 

[Crotale]

potential RP successors:

Justin Amash (MI)

Does Justin Amash even support the gold standard? I don't know anything about him so I checked out his website but I couldn't find anything about the gold standard or ending the fed on there.

If he doesn't actively oppose the federal reserve, fiat money and fractional reserve banking then I would not class him as a successor to Ron Paul. No way. Never.

 

[alucard13mmfmj]

there will never be another Ron Paul in a long time. we can't be too picky imo =|... i wish Ron would be immortal, but he'd probably argue against being immortal because there is no life if theres no death.

 

[realtonygoodwin]

Ted Cruz also is a LvMI, Austrian type guy, but I think there is an even better candidate in the US Senate race in Texas.

 

[Mini-Me]

Does Justin Amash even support the gold standard? I don't know anything about him so I checked out his website but I couldn't find anything about the gold standard or ending the fed on there.

If he doesn't actively oppose the federal reserve, fiat money and fractional reserve banking then I would not class him as a successor to Ron Paul. No way. Never.

Amash is absolutely an opponent of the Federal Reserve. I'm haven't yet found a reference where he actively promotes gold and/or competing currencies as the correct alternative (or warns against fractional reserve banking itself), but make no mistake: He is no friend to the Fed.

 

[GeorgiaAvenger]

Said he'd support the nominee if it was not Ron. Did I hear that right??

Umm, that is the smart thing to do. The NOBP people might be voting on emotion, but it doesn't make sense.

 

[GeorgiaAvenger]

Don't forget Adam Kokesh or Karen Kwiatowski (sp?). They could also be future liberty torch bearers.

Adam Kokesh is a clown

 

[AuH20]

This is why we cannot spare any resource in 2012 to elect Ron. As good as Rand is, he is no Ron. Ron Paul never compromised even when he *did* have a future to think about. Ron was never shy about telling it to the people in the most straight terms possible. Ron convinced the people with open minds and gave them the passion to spread the message. The message of freedom is one that requires honest self-examination and not one that relies on appealing to the baser instincts. Because of this, we have grown into a permanent movement, not a passing cult of personality.

Sorry Rand, I still like most of what you do, but you've got a long way to before you catch up to Ron. My candidate is Ron Paul, no matter who wins the nomination.

Ron compromised on the AUMF in Afghanistan. Ron compromises on entitlements ( just yesterday he was talking up food stamps). Ron has compromised on the hypocrisy of earmarks. Ron isn't that radically different from Rand if you take a microscope to their careers. Matt Collins has been reiterating this point for several months. Secondly, Rand has much more scrutiny on his person as the junior senator of Kentucky. This isn't TEX-14.

 

[Mini-Me]

Umm, that is the smart thing to do. The NOBP people might be voting on emotion, but it doesn't make sense.

It may be politically wise for Rand to avoid alienating himself, but it also makes perfect sense for us to vote NOBP. A non-Paul Republican win in the general election is the worst case scenario: It directly prevents us from fielding someone in 2016, because we won't be able to primary a sitting President. It emboldens the Republican establishment, and it makes the Republican base fall back asleep under the assumption that the Republican Party is doing just fine and winning elections with its current platform. The ONLY reason we are making inroads this time is because McCain lost in 2012. If he had won, voters would simply be ignoring us right now, just like in 2008. By the same token, we cannot allow any Republican but Paul to win the Presidency this year.

Furthermore, the last thing you want is for the country to collapse under fake capitalists: That would set the stage for a Bolshevik-style revolution.

 

[jct74]

there's a replay of the Rand interview coming up at 7:30 ET
http://www.wgsv.com/html/studiocam.htm

 

[GeorgiaAvenger]

Actually, it DOES make sense for us to vote NOBP. A non-Paul Republican win in the general election is the worst case scenario: It directly prevents us from fielding someone in 2016, because we won't be able to primary a sitting President. It emboldens the Republican establishment, and it makes the Republican base fall back asleep under the assumption that the Republican Party is doing just fine and winning elections with its current platform. The ONLY reason we are making inroads this time is because McCain lost in 2012. If he had won, voters would simply be ignoring us right now, just like in 2008.

Furthermore, the last thing you want is for the country to collapse under fake capitalists: That would set the stage for a Bolshevik-style revolution.

While Romney would continue the destruction of America, Obama might just end it in his last term.

But say we survive, we will be in such bad shape that the NOBP people will stain any candidate they get behind.