ATTN RON PAUL CHICKS: i need a tent to sleep in (not even joking with this thread)

amy31416 said:
You're probably right. And fortunately, my dog generally likes (non-fearful) females better. Once you're on her "good" list, she's your buddy for life, it's just a matter of getting on that list. ;)
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Do treats work?
 
angelatc said:
Do treats work?
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Nope. I have a method of introducing people to her:

1. Best not done on "her" turf
2. Walks are her favorite thing, so the introducee holds her leash, the brass clip makes a sound that produces a Pavlovian excitable/happy response
3. Person takes her for walk and thus is in the "dominant" position, gives her commands--treats are sometimes useful at this point, depending on how distracted by the environment she is.
4. This is best done without me since she's protective and acts differently when I'm around.
5. Eventually, the person will be allowed onto her "turf" and soon enough welcomed if this is continued for a couple days.

It's a different story taking her into someone else's house. And there are a very, very few people who she's immediately smitten with. Go figure!
 
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amy31416 said:
Nope. I have a method of introducing people to her:

1. Best not done on "her" turf
2. Walks are her favorite thing, so the introducee holds her leash, the brass clip makes a sound that produces a Pavlovian excitable/happy response
3. Person takes her for walk and thus is in the "dominant" position, gives her commands--treats are sometimes useful at this point, depending on how distracted by the environment she is.
4. This is best done without me since she's protective and acts differently when I'm around.
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Perhaps your dog sees you as a valuable resource she needs to protect from others.
Meaning, you don't own a dog. A dog owns a human.
Who works for who?
 
amy31416 said:
Nope. I have a method of introducing people to her:

1. Best not done on "her" turf
2. Walks are her favorite thing, so the introducee holds her leash, the brass clip makes a sound that produces a Pavlovian excitable/happy response
3. Person takes her for walk and thus is in the "dominant" position, gives her commands--treats are sometimes useful at this point, depending on how distracted by the environment she is.
4. This is best done without me since she's protective and acts differently when I'm around.
5. Eventually, the person will be allowed onto her "turf" and soon enough welcomed if this is continued for a couple days.

It's a different story taking her into someone else's house. And there are a very, very few people who she's immediately smitten with. Go figure!
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Brings to mind how my perception of animals differ from others...
I was raised on a 1000 acre farm. We had many animals, cows, chickens, horses, rabbits, doves, and dogs.
All dogs lived free range on a 1000 acres to roam(never allowed in homes- as far as we know they could have been rolling around in cow shit all day- dogs tend to like doing that for some reason). The only thing we ever fed them were scraps from the table. what is called "slop".
But the dogs were great hunters, and very smart. They knew what animals they were to protect and what animals were intruders and thus became their next meal.
Dogs were utility. We trained them to help us in hunting, to chase game towards us. They worked for us, and I think they were very happy dogs, living the life of a dog. :)
I think the dog whisperer would be proud.
 
torchbearer said:
Perhaps your dog sees you as a value resource she needs to protect from others.
Meaning, you don't own a dog. A dog owns a human.
Who works for who?
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Ha, she owns me. She definitely considers me her property to protect, you're absolutely right. With some abused dogs, this goes hand in hand.

If I'm in the anthropomorphizing mood, I could say that she fears going back to her "old life" and it is in her best interest to protect the person who provides for her. She's a very sweet dog once the introduction is out of the way, but there are very few people who could just walk in without incurring her wrath. She's never bitten anyone, but she's come close with a few men who thought I was being ridiculous and "all dogs like them." Silly boys.
 
torchbearer said:
Brings to mind how my perception of animals differ from others...
I was raised on a 1000 acre farm. We had many animals, cows, chickens, horses, rabbits, doves, and dogs.
All dogs lived free range on a 1000 acres to roam(never allowed in homes- as far as we know they could have been rolling around in cow shit all day- dogs tend to like doing that for some reason). The only thing we ever fed them were scraps from the table. what is called "slop".
But the dogs were great hunters, and very smart. They knew what animals they were to protect and what animals were intruders and thus became their next meal.
Dogs were utility. We trained them to help us in hunting, to chase game towards us. They worked for us, and I think they were very happy dogs, living the life of a dog. :)
I think the dog whisperer would be proud.
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Well, dogs have always been companions to me, so a slightly different experience. She gets fed regular dry dog food, supplemented with leftovers and scraps. All the stuff I won't eat--like skin/organs etc, though I do cook them for her. She's also a very good hunter, but doesn't eat what she catches, I honestly don't think she would unless she were pretty hungry.

She still retains the tendency to roll in smelly things--I used to take her to game parks during the off-season to go for long romps, and she found a several day old dead creature to roll in--the stench was far, far worse than when she got sprayed by a skunk. I had to make up a concoction of peroxide, dish soap and baking soda to even begin to get that putrid smell out. She also decided earlier that day that it was a good idea to try to go after a horse--she's usually smart, but not always. :p
 
amy31416 said:
Well, dogs have always been companions to me, so a slightly different experience. She gets fed regular dry dog food, supplemented with leftovers and scraps. All the stuff I won't eat--like skin/organs etc, though I do cook them for her. She's also a very good hunter, but doesn't eat what she catches, I honestly don't think she would unless she were pretty hungry.

She still retains the tendency to roll in smelly things--I used to take her to game parks during the off-season to go for long romps, and she found a several day old dead creature to roll in--the stench was far, far worse than when she got sprayed by a skunk. I had to make up a concoction of peroxide, dish soap and baking soda to even begin to get that putrid smell out. She also decided earlier that day that it was a good idea to try to go after a horse--she's usually smart, but not always. :p
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Keeping dogs in packs will increase their intelligence.
For example, a pack of dogs are playing around with a horse, the horse kicks one of the dogs. He screams in pain. The other dogs decide it might not be a good idea to walk up close to a horse and excite it.
The gained knowledge is then passed through generations in the pack.

I still haven't figure out the rolling around in smelly stuff part.
I have some theories...
1. instict carried on from generations of survival... mask your own sent.
The other animals won't know a dog is around if all they smell is shit. Sense of smell is very important for a lot of animals.

2. they think rotting flash smells like Channel cologne. what smells bad to us, may smell good to them.
I spent a lot of time observing animal and human behavior. Wasn't much else to do on the farm.
but i didn't notice some major differences in world perceptions,
for instance, in a group of dogs, one of them stops to eat some poop.
none of the other dogs seem to notice, nor care.
None of them laugh at him for his stupidity, nor does the guitly dog seem shameful.
It seems their ability for abstract thinking and developing social rules regarding diet may be quite different from ours.

Living in the middle of alexandria, i noticed that the animals here seem to be less intelligent, cut off from most of thier primal insticts.
But i have noticed new traits in city dwelling animals. Most of them use the sidewalks. Years of walking animals down sidewalks has had an unintended consequence. But may show how instictual behavior can be bred into an animal through repeated behaviors. (may be linked to rolling in shit)
 
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Lol this thread is hilarious. But may I ask why ca't you just buy a tent and bring it with you? Besides, you get more room for yourself.
 
amy31416; She still retains the tendency to roll in smelly things--I used to take her to game parks during the off-season to go for long romps said:
I have to say this. My old hermit neighbor asked me to cut his hair ao I proceeded to do, but his hair was so dirty. wHEN i finished I told him I would never cut his hair again if it was dirty. He shouted at me and said it was clean dirt. We both looked over at my dog and he was rolling in the cut hair. He never came with dirty hair again. Ha ha.
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Meatwasp said:
I have to say this. My old hermit neighbor asked me to cut his hair ao I proceeded to do, but his hair was so dirty. wHEN i finished I told him I would never cut his hair again if it was dirty. He shouted at me and said it was clean dirt. We both looked over at my dog and he was rolling in the cut hair. He never came with dirty hair again. Ha ha.
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HAHA! Oh man, you know you need a shower if the dog wants to roll in your stuff. :eek:

Danke said:
Shemdogg's thread has been hijacked. :D
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Nuh uh, we're talking about doggy behavior. :p
 
Ninja Homer said:
That's what I thought... It seems that the consensus is that sleeping outside in the cow shit is going to help Shemdogg find a mate. :confused::D
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I believe that to be 100% true. He must mask his human odor with cow dung and sneak up on unsuspecting females.

Worked for thousands of years, or so I've heard.
 
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