Attention Media and GOP: "No one but Paul" POLL ADDED

[Brett85]

Well to answer kingwilly, if Paul is not the nominee I would not only vote for Obama, I would encourage everyone I know to vote for Obama.


The reason is simple: we are playing a two party game at this point. The third party idea is hamstrung by the rules the two party monopoly has created and what Paul has proved is if enough people get involved, you can actually start to move a political party in the right direction. The best way to make use of the momentum that Dr. Paul has created is to work hard at capturing the Republican party, or rescuing it if that is how you want to view it, from the establishment statists that run it now.

So if the nominee is Romney or Santorum, do I have a dog in the presidential race? Yes, and that dog would be Obama because we need to be looking to 2016 and if Romney or Santorum actually get elected president, then there will be no contest for the nomination in 2016. Having the Republican party lose the 2012 presidential election keeps the 2016 nominee position open for someone like Rand Paul to pick up where his dad left off.

So the short answer to why I would vote for Obama is because we need the Republican party open come 2016.

I don't agree with this whole idea of "strategic voting." I think that people should just vote for the candidate who they agree with on the issues and let the chips fall where they may. I don't see how people can vote for someone who they disagree with so strongly on the issues, regardless if that's Obama or someone like Santorum. Our country would be a lot better off if people simply voted for politicians who reflect their values on the issues. I'll simply write in Ron Paul's name on the ballot in November unless the Constitution Party nominates someone decent.

 

[Captain Shays]

Well if you threatened to jam hot pins into my eyes I wouldn't vote for Obama.

For me and my house its


NO ONE BUT PAUL

 

[Anti Federalist]

NO ONE BUT PAUL

 

[Paul Or Nothing II]

I'd say if GOP doesn't nominate Paul & Libertarian or Constitution Party don't put a decent candidate either, then just vote Obama & let him win by a landslide then the scumbag GOP will come to us begging for support & they'll have to accept someone who's truly conservative next time around (of course, in the meantime we'll have infiltrated GOP even more, putting in our people at local-chairs & heads, etc )

Of course, if Ron himself runs Libertarian then the option would be crystal-clear

I just don't understand the point of write-ins, I think it's better to just vote for a different party & make your vote count & show them that no particular party owns you

 

[Captain Shays]

I'd say if GOP doesn't nominate Paul & Libertarian or Constitution Party don't put a decent candidate either, then just vote Obama & let him win by a landslide then the scumbag GOP will come to us begging for support & they'll have to accept someone who's truly conservative next time around (of course, in the meantime we'll have infiltrated GOP even more, putting in our people at local-chairs & heads, etc )

Of course, if Ron himself runs Libertarian then the option would be crystal-clear

I just don't understand the point of write-ins, I think it's better to just vote for a different party & make your vote count & show them that no particular party owns you

The point of a write in is simply to vote your conscience. There's really nothing complicated about it. You're writing in the candidate who you think is the best qualified and or who you most agree with. It's really that simple.

For me, that candidate is

NO ONE BUT PAUL

 

[Roxi]

 

[Roxi]

um yeah, that's supposed to be Ron Paul's alien brother. Uh huh. Sticking with that.
#notanartist

 

[PolicyReader]

I'd say if GOP doesn't nominate Paul & Libertarian or Constitution Party don't put a decent candidate either, then just vote Obama & let him win by a landslide then the scumbag GOP will come to us begging for support & they'll have to accept someone who's truly conservative next time around (of course, in the meantime we'll have infiltrated GOP even more, putting in our people at local-chairs & heads, etc )

Of course, if Ron himself runs Libertarian then the option would be crystal-clear

I just don't understand the point of write-ins, I think it's better to just vote for a different party & make your vote count & show them that no particular party owns you

The point of a write in is simply to vote your conscience. There's really nothing complicated about it. You're writing in the candidate who you think is the best qualified and or who you most agree with. It's really that simple.

For me, that candidate is

NO ONE BUT PAUL

I wrote Paul in last cycle and am likely to do so again, that having been said if a "third" party gets enough of the vote in the general it will earn a "seat at the table" (at least if the rules are actually followed as opposed to bent after the fact) so I can see voting for a third party based on that if it seems someone has a shot of getting the votes. That's a form of tactical voting I understand
That being said I think for my part the choice remains clear No One But Paul (of course if I find out my state bi-laws are such that they don't even count the write in votes then I might vote third party depending... /shrug)

 

[Red Green]

I don't agree with this whole idea of "strategic voting." I think that people should just vote for the candidate who they agree with on the issues and let the chips fall where they may. I don't see how people can vote for someone who they disagree with so strongly on the issues, regardless if that's Obama or someone like Santorum. Our country would be a lot better off if people simply voted for politicians who reflect their values on the issues. I'll simply write in Ron Paul's name on the ballot in November unless the Constitution Party nominates someone decent.

If you approach this as each battle is its own war, then you lose. If anything 2008 taught us is that you have to be in this for the long game. RP supporters started to get involved in 2008 and as a result, in 2012 RP is a viable candidate instead of just a fringe gadfly. If McCain had won in 2008 all of that would have been brought to a grinding halt, just as it will this time round if Romney or Santorum get elected. That's why it's imperative that should Dr. Paul not be the candidate that everyone on these forums not only vote for Obama, but literally campaign for him.

Besides, I can thank Obama for one thing: thanks to him hating government has moved into the mainstream.

 

[libertybrewcity]

I voted for John McCain in 2008 so I really have to make up for that..I'll probably have to write in Ron Paul for the rest of my life just to get over the guilt I feel from that vote.

 

[Travlyr]

No One But Paul!!

 

[Brett85]

That's why it's imperative that should Dr. Paul not be the candidate that everyone on these forums not only vote for Obama, but literally campaign for him.

That's ridiculous. You could hold a gun to my head, and I still wouldn't vote for Obama. I'll either vote for a 3rd party candidate or write Ron's name in on the ballot, as most Ron Paul supporters are doing.

 

[Brett85]

I voted for John McCain in 2008 so I really have to make up for that..I'll probably have to write in Ron Paul for the rest of my life just to get over the guilt I feel from that vote.

Me too.

 

[Captain Shays]

NO ONE BUT PAUL

 

[PolicyReader]

Here's a Poll on an external site, I think the voters in this thread should give it some love and make it clear that the answer is

NO ONE BUT PAUL!

With recent rumours of a Paul/Romney alliance, we at RP Delegates felt it was appropriate to asses the sentiments on our our Facebook page. What we've found is an interesting mix of results with 200 current respondents. There are a number of different opinions, which are all valid and likewise appreciated.

You can participate in the poll by voting at this link.

No doubt about it, should Ron Paul be successful at obtaining the number of required delegates at the Republican National Convention in Tampa Bay, Florida - Then he will go on to face Obama in the general election. He will then make his own pick for Vice President. This scenario is ideal, and will be exactly what we're working so hard to accomplish. Ron Paul and his supporters will stop at nothing to take back the GOP and put a constitutionalist in the Whitehouse.

What if Ron Paul and the other candidates didn’t acquire enough delegates to secure the nomination on the first ballot? Well, what we have here is what’s called a “Brokered Convention“. Ron needs to secure 1144 delegates to win the nomination with a total in attendance of 2380.

Remember to participate in the poll.


The results of the poll will he hosted, here. Check back tomorrow.

(Message to the forums - we know this is a touchy subject for some, so participate in the poll and make your voice heard.)

 

[Travlyr]

I am looking forward to the results to this poll.

With recent rumours of a Paul/Romney alliance, we at RP Delegates felt it was appropriate to asses the sentiments on our our Facebook page. What we've found is an interesting mix of results with 200 current respondents. There are a number of different opinions, which are all valid and likewise appreciated.

You can participate in the poll by voting at this link.

No doubt about it, should Ron Paul be successful at obtaining the number of required delegates at the Republican National Convention in Tampa Bay, Florida - Then he will go on to face Obama in the general election. He will then make his own pick for Vice President. This scenario is ideal, and will be exactly what we're working so hard to accomplish. Ron Paul and his supporters will stop at nothing to take back the GOP and put a constitutionalist in the Whitehouse.

What if Ron Paul and the other candidates didn’t acquire enough delegates to secure the nomination on the first ballot? Well, what we have here is what’s called a “Brokered Convention“. Ron needs to secure 1144 delegates to win the nomination with a total in attendance of 2380.

Remember to participate in the poll.


The results of the poll will he hosted, here. Check back tomorrow.

(Message to the forums - we know this is a touchy subject for some, so participate in the poll and make your voice heard.)

No One But Paul!!

 

[Captain Shays]

Can't wait to see the results

As for now



NO ONE BUT PAUL.......thats Ron Paul

 

[Brett85]

No One But Paul, because any other vote would be a wasted vote.

 

[ninepointfive]

No One But Paul!

(And shift the Overton Window closer to him for everyone else)

 

[Anti Federalist]

That's ridiculous. You could hold a gun to my head, and I still wouldn't vote for Obama. I'll either vote for a 3rd party candidate or write Ron's name in on the ballot, as most Ron Paul supporters are doing.

This.

If it's all about principles and not caving in, that has to include "strategic" voting as well.

No, I won't do that, a vote for Obama is as big a violation of principles as a vote for any of the others, since there will be, at the end of the day, no real difference in policy or direction.

This is like "opting out" at the airport, not about "winning" but simply about making a stand.

NO ONE BUT PAUL