Attention Displaced Rand Fans from the DP

[ChristianAnarchist]

Michael got burned out babysitting everyone. He has a life and didn't want to spend all his free time tending to squabbles. As for the name change from "Ron Paul" to "Peace Gold Liberty" I do believe that was spurred on by the Ron Paul campaign or maybe Ron Paul himself. I think there was some issue with people thinking that the DP was directly connected with the campaign and maybe there was some campaign financing issues, I'm not sure. Anyway, the DP is still going and I'm still there but I'm also here and have been all along...

Peace to Michael and thanks for all he's done over the years. Don't see too many others putting out that much effort for liberty...

 

[whoisjohngalt]

Peace to Michael and thanks for all he's done over the years. Don't see too many others putting out that much effort for liberty...

Past service to liberty is no excuse for current activism against liberty. Not wanting to babysit everyone is one thing. Actively banning people who try to organize for Rand is quite another.

Surely you understand the irony and hypocrisy of both Michael and many users at the DP who insist those who ardently support Rand aren't holding his feet to the fire. The truth is that we are doing with Rand what you do with Michael, weighing the good against the bad. But that doesn't excuse the bad.

He doesn't like the methodology of his fellow travelers in the liberty movement and distrusts the current figure head. He has the right to shut down his site or ban people or do whatever he sees fit. But we need to call a spade a spade. He is working against the liberty movement in doing so. That how he chooses to exercise his liberty these days.

 

[ChristianAnarchist]

Past service to liberty is no excuse for current activism against liberty. Not wanting to babysit everyone is one thing. Actively banning people who try to organize for Rand is quite another.

Surely you understand the irony and hypocrisy of both Michael and many users at the DP who insist those who ardently support Rand aren't holding his feet to the fire. The truth is that we are doing with Rand what you do with Michael, weighing the good against the bad. But that doesn't excuse the bad.

He doesn't like the methodology of his fellow travelers in the liberty movement and distrusts the current figure head. He has the right to shut down his site or ban people or do whatever he sees fit. But we need to call a spade a spade. He is working against the liberty movement in doing so. That how he chooses to exercise his liberty these days.

Not really. Everyone has a different level of "acceptance" to liberty. Myself I'm a complete anarchist. I see any level of government to be tyranny. I do work with "tyrants" who are at least trying to lessen the level of tyranny (like Rand and Ron). I've met both of these men and I like them alot. I fully support Rand in a run for the "chief Tyrant" position in this fiction we call the U.S. of A. So Michael has a different view of liberty than me. Hey guess what? I pretty much disagree with everyone. That doesn't mean I can't work with them or I have to "call them a spade" simply because they support "X" level of tyranny. What level of tyranny do you support? Direct taxes in the form of (fill-in-the-blank)? Having a "standing army" (strictly for "defense", of course). Forcing me to remove the old water-heater out in my yard because you don't like the looks of it??

It's called working with people to achieve an end. My "end" is liberty and if giving kudos to Michael for a job well done somehow makes me a "heretic" (I've been called much worse) then I'll take that label.

LIBERTY !!!

 

[CPUd]

I remember quite a few news stories that would quote posts at DP and say it was Ron Paul's website.

 

[enoch150]

Is there an apparent divide here between the 2 forums or am I just hearing from ex/banned and angry former DP users? Just curious. I'd be interested to learn about the community dynamics of the 2 forums and how they differ and why one chooses one or the other and how each forum functions within each community. I've always been interested in group dynamics. It's probably boring to y'all but I'm intrigued.

Quantcast published an estimate of the demographics in 2011. The average user on RPF was a few years older and made a little more money compared to DP users. DP had 3-4 times more traffic.

I've had an account on DP since 2007 but quit using it in 2008, after the primary. No real reason, just bored with it all. I lurked here in 2007 but found the format more confusing. I like the RPF format better now. DP just looks impenetrable.

 

[whoisjohngalt]

Not really. Everyone has a different level of "acceptance" to liberty. Myself I'm a complete anarchist. I see any level of government to be tyranny. I do work with "tyrants" who are at least trying to lessen the level of tyranny (like Rand and Ron). I've met both of these men and I like them alot. I fully support Rand in a run for the "chief Tyrant" position in this fiction we call the U.S. of A. So Michael has a different view of liberty than me. Hey guess what? I pretty much disagree with everyone. That doesn't mean I can't work with them or I have to "call them a spade" simply because they support "X" level of tyranny. What level of tyranny do you support? Direct taxes in the form of (fill-in-the-blank)? Having a "standing army" (strictly for "defense", of course). Forcing me to remove the old water-heater out in my yard because you don't like the looks of it??

It's called working with people to achieve an end. My "end" is liberty and if giving kudos to Michael for a job well done somehow makes me a "heretic" (I've been called much worse) then I'll take that label.

LIBERTY !!!

I have the utmost respect for Michael. I didn't mean to suggest otherwise. Again, he should do what he feels he needs to. I'm sorry if that was clear and if I insulted Michael or the DP, I apologize.

I was trying to make a broader point that I can't and don't think liberty lovers should accept or participate in any attempts to prevent others from their attempts to advance liberty even when we disagree with the methodology or efficacy of the attempts to spread it. For me, that would manifest itself in the form of an AJ or Adam Kokesh. Sometimes I question whether they don't turn more people away from liberty than they turn on at this point.

I still don't question their love of liberty or that they are trying to advance it. I also realize that my energy and time is much better spent elsewhere than trying to stop those who support their methodology from doing their thing. I hope others eventually develop a similar understanding.

Again, sorry for the original posts, sounds like it came off the wrong way.

 

[NO_GMOs]

Well Unknownuser I thought I would come and checkout this sight, since the DP may not care for Rand talk. We do have something in common in that we both want Collin Peterson out of Minnesota CD7. I won't leave the DP because of the metals thread and like silver stackers.

 

[Unknownuser]

Michael got burned out babysitting everyone. He has a life and didn't want to spend all his free time tending to squabbles. As for the name change from "Ron Paul" to "Peace Gold Liberty" I do believe that was spurred on by the Ron Paul campaign or maybe Ron Paul himself. I think there was some issue with people thinking that the DP was directly connected with the campaign and maybe there was some campaign financing issues, I'm not sure. Anyway, the DP is still going and I'm still there but I'm also here and have been all along...

Peace to Michael and thanks for all he's done over the years. Don't see too many others putting out that much effort for liberty...

I agree. Like I said, I have nothing but love. Do I agree with everything he says or does in regards to the forum...no. But then again, I am free to leave at will and free to run my own forum.

I am not leaving the DP either but when the elections come around and Rand hits the campaign trail, I'd like to be involved in the action. Mike doesn't want to deal with all the campaign stuff so I have asked the Rand supporters to join up here so we can party it up.

 

[Unknownuser]

Well Unknownuser I thought I would come and checkout this sight, since the DP may not care for Rand talk. We do have something in common in that we both want Collin Peterson out of Minnesota CD7. I won't leave the DP because of the metals thread and like silver stackers.

I'm not leaving either but plan to help with the grassroots for Rand come election time. Mike doesn't want all the "Ra Ra Rand" stuff on his forum.

Hi Beeman!

 

[William Tell]

"Ra Ra Rand"

 

[Unknownuser]

His words not mine. :o

 

[Wiseburn]

I've been reading the DP almost daily for over 7 years. I like reading all the news on the DP, but not all the commentary. But along with the wishes of that's site's owner, we need to build the grassroots support for Rand elsewhere.

Rand is running to win and has my full support after the 2014 elections.

Steve

 

[Unknownuser]

I've been reading the DP almost daily for over 7 years. I like reading all the news on the DP, but not all the commentary. But along with the wishes of that's site's owner, we need to build the grassroots support for Rand elsewhere.

Rand is running to win and has my full support after the 2014 elections.

Steve

That is why I made the post. It was not meant as a nudge or insult to anyone especially not Michael but he has made it abundantly clear that he wants us to take the a Rand campaigning elsewhere. The rpf seems to be friendly for this...I think...unless Brian says otherwise.

What is your Name on the DP?

 

[philipped]

That is why I made the post. It was not meant as a nudge or insult to anyone especially not Michael but he has made it abundantly clear that he wants us to take the a Rand campaigning elsewhere. The rpf seems to be friendly for this...I think...unless Brian says otherwise.

What is your Name on the DP?

Around here we focus on what the person running for office wants to do in the future and how well they are doing now. If they have the same last name so be it, but if you check the Defenders of Liberty section of the forum there's other sections devoted to others in Congress today moving things in the path we prefer. Welcome to RPF.

 

[Unknownuser]

Around here we focus on what the person running for office wants to do in the future and how well they are doing now. If they have the same last name so be it, but if you check the Defenders of Liberty section of the forum there's other sections devoted to others in Congress today moving things in the path we prefer. Welcome to RPF.

Thank you and i agree. I would not campaign for Rand if I did not believe in him or his message. He has the best voting record in the senate. I think he would to well to set the tone for Washington. That is after all what the POTUS is for. The real battle is in the senate and the house.

 

[philipped]

Thank you and i agree. I would not campaign for Rand if I did not believe in him or his message. He has the best voting record in the senate. I think he would to well to set the tone for Washington. That is after all what the POTUS is for. The real battle is in the senate and the house.

I hear you. Check out Lee Bright (the Senator hopefully following after Lindsay Graham) & Greg Brannon (the Senator to replace Kay Hagan) both of those people would be strong assets to the anti-statist section of the GOP and would probably give Rand more than enough legroom in the Senate to be the first to announce he's running for 2016. We making moves out here on RPF.

 

[The Rebel Poet]

A lot of the main posters there don't even vote anymore, Ignore the Gov and it will go away they seem to think. The Ostrich strategy.

You are absolutely right. I still love DP, but sometimes I feel like it should be called the Daily Anarchist. I would guesstimate that it has become c. 50% anarchist, 40% paleocon 10% Libertarian, and >1% libertarian leaning liberal. Of course, that's probably skewed in favor of whoever is more vocal.

Now, just for fun, I'm going to say the exact same thing, but make fun of every group (calm down, it's just a joke):

You are absolutely right. I still love DP, but sometimes I feel like it should be called the Daily Ostrich. I would guesstimate that it has become c. 50% ostrich, 40% they-took-r-jobs 10% Pothead, and >1% secretly statist. Of course, that's probably skewed in favor of whoever is more vocal.

 

[The Rebel Poet]

Is there a way to see when someone has replied to your replies or posts without scrolling through the post?

You can go to Settings and at the top you will see "Subscribed Threads with New Posts"; that is about the closest thing.

I will also point out, the default thread display option is very different from the DP, and I found it difficult to navigate. If you go to Settings>General Settings, in the fifth section down, "Thread Display Options", under "Thread Display Mode," you can make it pretty much identical in flow to DP by setting it to "Hybrid." Of course you may not like that, but at any rate, there are four options for you there (Linear - Oldest First, Linear - Newest First, Threaded, and Hybrid). If you do set it to Hybrid, each thread will have an outline at the top, and new posts will be highlighted there, so you can find replies by looking for threads with new posts and scanning the outline for what the new post is, or scanning for your name to find any replies.

Also, the little sheriff star bottom left of each post is "Reputation" - basically upvote/downvote, but it adds up for the user as a whole, and is not calculated for the post. I don't think you can't use it right away, because I couldn't make it work at first, but I don't know for sure.

 

[HVACTech]

You are absolutely right. I still love DP, but sometimes I feel like it should be called the Daily Anarchist. I would guesstimate that it has become c. 50% anarchist, 40% paleocon 10% Libertarian, and >1% libertarian leaning liberal. Of course, that's probably skewed in favor of whoever is more vocal.

Now, just for fun, I'm going to say the exact same thing, but make fun of every group (calm down, it's just a joke):

You are absolutely right. I still love DP, but sometimes I feel like it should be called the Daily Ostrich. I would guesstimate that it has become c. 50% ostrich, 40% they-took-r-jobs 10% Pothead, and >1% secretly statist. Of course, that's probably skewed in favor of whoever is more vocal.

it was the open tolerance and even acceptance and promotion of sockpuppets that got my goat.

I like it better here. and. I have more friends here!
(now, if I can just figure out how that durn widget works...)

 

[The Rebel Poet]

it was the open tolerance and even acceptance and promotion of sockpuppets that got my goat.

I like it better here. and. I have more friends here!
(now, if I can just figure out how that durn widget works...)

What? sockpupptes at DP? Inconceivable!