Attention Displaced Rand Fans from the DP

[LibertyEagle]

Bryan,

If it is un-pc around here to have the opinion that the DP is not worthy of respect, then please just ban me now. I do not share your opinion on this and I do not personally respect the owner of the DP, or his vision. I came here, from there, hoping that this place would be different. So far it has been. I want nothing to do with the DP, so much so that I'd rather not even be a part of a site that makes criticism of the DP an offense. I feel strongly about this. (obviously) If it is not OK to criticize the DP around here, I am requesting that you ban me now.

How does it further the mission of this forum to bash DP or Nystrom? It doesn't. Hopefully, your interest in being here has something to do with helping to further liberty.

 

[dinosaur]

How does it further the mission of this forum to bash DP or Nystrom? It doesn't. Hopefully, your interest in being here has something to do with helping to further liberty.

I'm just not OK with this, LE. I can help further liberty without being on this particular site.

 

[asurfaholic]

I'm just not OK with this, LE. I can help further liberty without being on this particular site.

Well. Bye.

Why request a ban? Just stop logging in if you don't feel like you can incite division exactly how you want. Just leave, nobody will miss you.

 

[dinosaur]

Well. Bye.

Why request a ban? Just stop logging in if you don't feel like you can incite division exactly how you want. Just leave, nobody will miss you.

Because I was hoping that Bryan would say that it is OK to have my opinion, that this subject is not so un-pc that RPF can't handle it, and that he wouldn't be shutting down any threads in the future if people expressed this opinion. I will wait for his response. I don't care if you like me or not.

 

[HVACTech]

I made the switch. I am FAR more comfortable over here.
and delighted to see that MANY of my old friends are still kicking around this place!
the DP was the first place that I discovered back in the day. now that have been here a week or so. I can see that this place is richer and fuller.
more substance and less fluff.

now if I could just figure out how to navigate this site!

 

[specsaregood]

Because I was hoping that Bryan would say that it is OK to have my opinion, that this subject is not so un-pc that RPF can't handle it, and that he wouldn't be shutting down any threads in the future if people expressed this opinion. I will wait for his response. I don't care if you like me or not.

Why be such a drama queen? If you dont' want to be on rpf's unless you can randomly start threads attacking other websites and/or their owners -- especially ones that were allies for many years -- then just leave. RPFs is not the place for that. Personally, I like starting threads talking about taxidermied animals, the costumes I sew for them and the little dollhouses I make for them to live in. RPFs isn't the place for that either; so I post those elsewhere. Get the idea?

 

[Unknownuser]

I made the switch. I am FAR more comfortable over here.
and delighted to see that MANY of my old friends are still kicking around this place!
the DP was the first place that I discovered back in the day. now that have been here a week or so. I can see that this place is richer and fuller.
more substance and less fluff.

now if I could just figure out how to navigate this site!

Havoc, good to see you here! I thought you got banned or something. You didn't leave one of those "Why I'm leaving the DP" posts. Anyway, good to know you're still alive.

 

[thoughtomator]

Just be civil and you'll have a good time here. Also you may want to pre-emptively put a couple of regular posters who have curiously non-libertarian viewpoints (though they may claim otherwise) on ignore.

 

[Unknownuser]

As is with most forums. Thanks!

 

[acptulsa]

Because I was hoping that Bryan would say that it is OK to have my opinion, that this subject is not so un-pc that RPF can't handle it, and that he wouldn't be shutting down any threads in the future if people expressed this opinion. I will wait for his response. I don't care if you like me or not.

I've seldom seen anyone here say someone can't have a particular opinion, even when they're asked not to express it for one reason or another.

I've also seen a tendency for the admin and mods here to prefer to moderate on a post-by-post basis, rather than preemptively. So I don't think Bryan is going to put up with you trying to put him on the spot.

 

[DeMintConservative]

Please, do not use this post as a trashing site for Mr. Nystrom. Though we may not agree with him, we must respect his wishes to not turn his site into a Rand hub when election season comes around. It is clear that Mr. Nystrom has a different vision for the DP and will be going in another direction than what we may wish to go.

Can someone summarize the facts wrt to Mr Nystrom's different vision and direction succinctly? Is it only about keeping his site free of activism and being suspicious of Rand Paul? What' the ideological lean associated with that direction and the root of his doubts about Rand: based on rothbardian purism or something else?

I've only visited DP twice so I have no clue. Much obliged.

 

[Unknownuser]

Can someone summarize the facts wrt to Mr Nystrom's different vision and direction succinctly? Is it only about keeping his site free of activism and being suspicious of Rand Paul? What' the ideological lean associated with that direction and the root of his doubts about Rand: based on rothbardian purism or something else?

I've only visited DP twice so I have no clue. Much obliged.

Not entirely sure where he's going with it. I'm not certain he knows either. I wrote a post about an overall atmosphere I have been feeling about the place. Not that it is entirely Nystroms doing but it certainly is starting to feel a bit like a club. In my post I explain a little about what is going on but also share what I think the direction of the DP should be.

http://www.dailypaul.com/315937

 

[dinosaur]

Why be such a drama queen? If you dont' want to be on rpf's unless you can randomly start threads attacking other websites and/or their owners -- especially ones that were allies for many years -- then just leave. RPFs is not the place for that. Personally, I like starting threads talking about taxidermied animals, the costumes I sew for them and the little dollhouses I make for them to live in. RPFs isn't the place for that either; so I post those elsewhere. Get the idea?

Random? Irrelevant? I don't think so. I said something because think that it was important to say something. I don't think that what happens at the DP is irrelevant at all.

 

[dinosaur]

I've seldom seen anyone here say someone can't have a particular opinion, even when they're asked not to express it for one reason or another.

I've also seen a tendency for the admin and mods here to prefer to moderate on a post-by-post basis, rather than preemptively. So I don't think Bryan is going to put up with you trying to put him on the spot.

Yeah, it isn't good to put him on the spot. I'm sorry for that. it was just worth it to me to say something and take a stand for better or worse. This place is way better than the DP, so I hope my point gets across. Even if I become unwelcome here.

 

[erowe1]

I'm just not OK with this, LE. I can help further liberty without being on this particular site.

You wrote this 6 hours ago. Having second thoughts?

 

[dinosaur]

You wrote this 6 hours ago. Having second thoughts?

No. I still don't see the point of having PC laws about it not being proper to criticize public members of the liberty movement. No one would suggest that Beck or Jones or WND should never be criticized because we must respect their "vision" and all that.

 

[erowe1]

No.

OK. Bye.

 

[Unknownuser]

No. I still don't see the point of having PC laws about it not being proper to criticize public members of the liberty movement. No one would suggest that Beck or Jones or WND should never be criticized because we must respect their "vision" and all that.

Live and let live brother. The DP isn't for everyone. But is is for some. It's good to have diversity.

 

[FSP-Rebel]

Perhaps we could have this one locked up and stickied for a while and the newcomers can gradually assimilate in our vast forest of other threads and topics? usefulness has been properly served imo

 

[Unknownuser]

Great idea! Or we could resurrect it closer to election when the base gets fired up. Or both!