At least 15 of 29 delegates go to Ron Paul in AZ...over 50%, Ron Paul wins AZ too!

[sailingaway]

Yeah, that part is interesting. Just wondering if Romney is getting an insurmountable lead. I know his numbers are vapor somewhat, but the counts put him over 900 now...

as you say some are vapor, but he is way ahead. It isn't insurmountable until he has the number to win, though, and you run harder at the end, you don't slow down because someone might beat you.

 

[Gage]

at least 8 are A list.

Then it's 15/58, or however many were the original amount AZ was supposed to receive.

 

[juvanya]

Yeah, that part is interesting. Just wondering if Romney is getting an insurmountable lead. I know his numbers are vapor somewhat, but the counts put him over 900 now...

He only has 666 by my count.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Then it's 15/58, or however many were the original amount AZ was supposed to receive.

no. Its 15/29 on A list.

b list is only in case the RNC puts back the delegates that were stripped away from az for having the primary earlier than we were suppose to. Currently we are 15/29.

 

[juvanya]

no. Its 15/29 on A list.

b list is only in case the RNC puts back the delegates that were stripped away from az for having the primary earlier than we were suppose to. Currently we are 15/29.

do you have the breakdown by AL/CD?

 

[Paul Fan]

Not if state laws criminalize them doing so.

It is a common misconception that making something 'criminal' will stop it happening.

 

[Agorism]

What's the rule number for getting nominated by a plurality in 6 states?

 

[Liberty74]

We could have another situation like Nevada, where we win a bunch of delegates, but they're all bound to vote for Romney.

I tried explaining these rules but too many refused to listen. About 75% of the delegates are BOUND. Even if Paul won all the unbound delegates, it would not matter. It's not enough to win 1144. Today, if Romney got half of Santorum's and Gringrich's delegates, this thing is over. It's why I always stressed an election strategy to win over the old voters who actually vote. It was imperative that we won primaries on face value and captured those bound delegates. Having delegate slots as in AZ and NV is useless if Romney gets 1144 which can be easily accomplished since Santorum endorsed Romney.

What happened can't be changed. Congrats to all the hard work the grassroots is doing to capture the delegate slots. But it's a shame the campaign took an approach to completely ignore the Republican base in a Republican primary which are old and religious voters. We could of had this gig wrapped up by now. Stamp and sealed!!!

 

[Elwar]

I tried explaining these rules but too many refused to listen.

"The RNC does not recognize a state's binding of national delegates, but considers each delegate a free agent who can vote for whoever they choose." -Jennifer Sheehan, Legal Counsel for the RNC

 

[opinionatedfool]

"The RNC does not recognize a state's binding of national delegates, but considers each delegate a free agent who can vote for whoever they choose." -Jennifer Sheehan, Legal Counsel for the RNC

^^This

 

[pawlpawl]

There is also the ability of us getting Ron Paul supporters as 51% or more of the delegates regardless of whom they are bound to. They can vote to unbind before ballot 1. Then night night Mittens.

We have 2 possibilities to trump the face value primaries.

Get majority delegates and unbind them.
Enact the free agent delegate ruling.

Theres also the possibility of ron paul voters whom are forced romney delegates to abstain theyre vote. We will need to have the alternates as well to make that effective.


We got cards to play so keep ur head up. Were not relying on old voters who cant google candidates, we are young, hungry, innovative, and intellectually capable of seeing beyond the smoke and mirrors ro finally overthrow the bullshit we have been handed.

 

[DonovanJames]

There is also the ability of us getting Ron Paul supporters as 51% or more of the delegates regardless of whom they are bound to. They can vote to unbind before ballot 1. Then night night Mittens.

We have 2 possibilities to trump the face value primaries.

Get majority delegates and unbind them.
Enact the free agent delegate ruling.

Theres also the possibility of ron paul voters whom are forced romney delegates to abstain theyre vote. We will need to have the alternates as well to make that effective.


We got cards to play so keep ur head up. Were not relying on old voters who cant google candidates, we are young, hungry, innovative, and intellectually capable of seeing beyond the smoke and mirrors ro finally overthrow the bullshit we have been handed.

There is a 3rd option. It requires pitchforks, torches, blatant injustice and a single person to cast the first stone.

 

[Elwar]

There is also the ability of us getting Ron Paul supporters as 51% or more of the delegates regardless of whom they are bound to. They can vote to unbind before ballot 1. Then night night Mittens.

If it comes down to suspending rules, that requires 2/3rds vote.

 

[kylejack]

It is a common misconception that making something 'criminal' will stop it happening.

It's not going to matter. There was a bound delegate in 2008 that refused to follow his binding...they just locked him out and entered his bound vote anyway for the first ballot. They're not going to let bound delegates revolt.

 

[Todd]

 

[Gage]

The ballots from Saturday are going to be counted at the GOP Headquarters on 24th Street just North of Osborn today at 1:30 p.m. It is critical that there be witnesses there to observe whatever happens, and to report back to us any results determined or proclamations made.

 

[JJ2]

The ballots from Saturday are going to be counted at the GOP Headquarters on 24th Street just North of Osborn today at 1:30 p.m. It is critical that there be witnesses there to observe whatever happens, and to report back to us any results determined or proclamations made.

Bumped.

 

[johndeal]

The ballots from Saturday are going to be counted at the GOP Headquarters on 24th Street just North of Osborn today at 1:30 p.m. It is critical that there be witnesses there to observe whatever happens, and to report back to us any results determined or proclamations made.

That's why this 15/29 number doesn't make sense. Are they going off a preliminary count of the at-large votes? Where is Wead getting his intel.
Here is what we know for the A slates.
CD1 and CD 5 elected RP delegates.
CD2-4 and CD6-9 elected Romney delegates.

This was announced at the convention. There was no announcement of how the B delegates went.

 

[Elwar]

That's why this 15/29 number doesn't make sense. Are they going off a preliminary count of the at-large votes? Where is Wead getting his intel.
Here is what we know for the A slates.
CD1 and CD 5 elected RP delegates.
CD2-4 and CD6-9 elected Romney delegates.

This was announced at the convention. There was no announcement of how the B delegates went.

I got the 15 number from Daily Paul from the link I provided. Two girls who were watching the counting of the vote.

 

[kylejack]

The breaking news is that the campaign announced they won't be spending any money in states that didn't vote yet.