At least 15 of 29 delegates go to Ron Paul in AZ...over 50%, Ron Paul wins AZ too!

Elwar

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Of course, this is just an unverified rumor but:

http://www.dailypaul.com/232819/arizona-convention-live-stream?page=1#comment-2453770

"Two girls were keeping notes on our wins, one was backstage most of the day where the counting and observing was going on and they came up with 15 Paulites who became delegates. I don't know if that is accurate or not, but they both thought so."


Now, this could have many meanings since AZ had a Slate A and Slate B as well as alternates. Slate A is for delegates with the 50% penalty, Slate B is in case the penalty is lifted.


From Greenpapers:
The information below reflects the 50% penalty. Each of the 9 Congressional District selected 1 rather 3 delegates. 20 rather than 28 were selected statewide.
Saturday 12 May 2012: The Arizona District Caucuses and State Republican Convention convenes. Delegates are elected according to the results of the primary.

  • 9 district delegates to the Republican National Convention are chosen in today's District Caucuses with 1 delegates selected in each of the 9 congressional districts.
  • The State Convention chooses 20 at-large delegates from Arizona to the Republican National Convention.
In addition, 3 party leaders, the National Committeeman, the National Committeewoman, and the chairman of the Arizona's Republican Party, will attend the convention as bound delegates by virtue of their position.
 
Hold on, I thought Arizona was going to be winner-take-all bound. That's why they were penalized.
 
We could have another situation like Nevada, where we win a bunch of delegates, but they're all bound to vote for Romney.
 
we definitely have over 10 delegates. There was rumor of more delegates being obtained at they very very end after people left...a ron paul campaign worker was watching the count to the very end and thats where people heard of more delegates being obtained.
 
I too am anxious to hear what the true numbers are. Of course we will never truly know any of our delegates until Tampa but having a good idea would be nice.

We should all know that there are so many intricacies in this process that proclaiming that we have "15 out of 29 delegates" will come with many caveats.

Those who voted in the primary then got home to see on the news that "Romney won" may be complacent in such news, but we know there will always be more to the story. That is why we will win.
 
Well at least it's good to know that we're not sending a whole slate of Mitt Romney delegates to Tampa. Even getting our delegates bound to be his 'delegates' is a win.
 
We could have another situation like Nevada, where we win a bunch of delegates, but they're all bound to vote for Romney.

Delegates are only bound to vote for Romney but are allowed to vote on others matters. For example, say there is an dispute in Tampa over which set of Oklahoma delegates to seat. A delegate bound to vote for Romney can vote to seat the Paul delegates instead of the first set of delegates. Now in doing so can shift the balance of power to vote on a Motion regarding Rule 38 which then allows a bound delegate to be unbound.
 
again, ignore boundness.

This.

At this point we need as many liberty-minded delegates in Tampa as possible. We'll worry about binding rules once we've achieved our first goal: gain as many delegate slots as possible.
 
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