Astrology: Charting the Rise of Ron Paul

IMHO the transits and progressions made to Romney's personal chart do suggest a 'perfect storm' scenario for any of the 3 days of the convention but specifically for Aug 27 when transit Moon goes opposite transit Venus at around 8pm. (also makes T-square to transit Rhadamanthus)

Hey, if the injunction to unbind takes place then all hell breaks loose for Romney and that's what I see taking place with his chart.
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No injunction of course -- seemed liked some self-undoing and self-sabotaging behavior on Gilbert's part when his 2nd amended complaint was no better then the initial complaint. (as far as I can tell from having read them recently).

A poster who attended the hearing on Aug 6 and who tried to help states this:
Incidentally, yesterday I made a comment on that video that I would prefer if Gilbert dropped the appellate case since he totally screwed up the lower court case. The comment was deleted. I was in the court room and the judge was initially clearly on our side and told Gilbert with no uncertain terms how to refile, that is with FACTS.

Gilbert ignored the judge and all of us that tried to give him the facts, including an attorney he knows well.

I also suspect that the 120 affidavits he received from the plaintiffs (including mine) were NOT included in his submittal to the court. I worked a lot on mine, got it notarized and sent it to him Fed Ex as well as a scanned PDF e-mail to make absolutely sure he got it and would not have to print it. It think he never read it and just trashed it.

I also gave him another copy in court, in case he needed to refer to it. He seemed like he knew nothing about it.

Because of his big ego, he ignored everybody and now we have high risk of losing the appellate case, which will be precedent setting.

I've clearly had it with that guy.
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BTW, Gilbert's birthdate is 5/31/1951 and grew up in Brooklyn -- no idea if born there.

The Team Liberty chart with afflicted Pisces Moon (square Gemini Sun -- and Gilbert is also Gemini Sun in his own chart) was indicative of self-undoing behavior and it proved to be more dominant over the positive patterns. It's too bad, there was so much potential for a good outcome.

I make no excuses for a wrong prediction but human affairs are archetypal and not directly deterministic and there are always free will-based probability/possibility factors involved with the predictive techniques used and, of course, the bias and skill of the one doing the interpretation. I am on the level of being naturally biased and an unskilled student of predictive astrology techniques -- esp these Hellenistic techniques.

As far as Aug 27, a thread is up about a Romney/Ben Swann interview which supposedly exposed some things and, as Ariondys indicates, there are some timely patterns for RP's surprise appearance at the RNC at 1:43 pm today.

So, in Romney's chart some hell can still break loose and the 'transformational catalyst' pattern of the Uranus/Pluto square, which is intensifying towards another exact square on Sept 18, is a factor.

There's more to the story but that's part of it.

Update:

Part of the Ben Swann interview published Aug 27 that is construed incriminating to Romney.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Llg-a8FamJg

RP appeared on the floor of the RNC at approx 1:34 pm according to the video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cwgz2XM8PRY&feature=player_embedded
 
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http://dailycaller.com/2012/09/04/ron-paul-will-not-endorse-gary-johnson/
After losing his bid for the Republican nomination in 2008, Paul initially issued an open endorsement of third party candidates, but as the election approached he endorsed Constitution Party candidate Chuck Baldwin. In 1988 Paul was the Libertarian Party’s presidential candidate.

On Tuesday evening Paul will appear on Jay Leno’s “Tonight Show,” where he will likely be pressed on the November election.


http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...ird-Party-Presidential-Bid-On-Tuesday%92s-Ton

http://ronpaulflix.com/2012/09/ron-paul-3rd-party-rumors-confirmed-aug-2-2012/


transit Pallas-Uranus conjoin(tonight) on RP's solar arc Node opposite natal Sun/Jupiter midpoint
 
transit Saturn square Paul's Pluto today. (exact about 1/2 hour ago)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/13/ron-paul-electoral-college_n_1880172.html
At least three Republican electors say they may not support their party's presidential ticket when the Electoral College meets in December to formally elect the next president, escalating tensions within the GOP and adding a fresh layer of intrigue to the final weeks of the White House race.

The electors – all supporters of former GOP presidential candidate Ron Paul – told The Associated Press they are exploring options should Mitt Romney win their states. They expressed frustration at how Republican leaders have worked to suppress Paul's conservative movement and his legion of loyal supporters.

"They've never given Ron Paul a fair shot, and I'm disgusted with that. I'd like to show them how disgusted I am," said Melinda Wadsley, an Iowa mother of three who was selected as a Republican elector earlier this year. She said Paul is the better choice and noted that the Electoral College was founded with the idea that electors wouldn't just mimic the popular vote.

The defection of multiple electors would be unprecedented in the last 116 years of U.S. politics. It also would raise the remote possibility that the country could even end up with a president and vice president from different parties.

If Romney prevailed in an extremely close presidential election, for example, defections could deprive him of the Electoral College majority needed to secure the presidency. That would throw the presidential election to the U.S. House for the first time in nearly two centuries. The Senate would elect the vice president if neither running mate got a majority of the electoral votes. If Republicans retained control of the House, and with the each state delegation getting a single vote, Romney probably would prevail. But if the Senate remained in Democratic hands, Vice President Joe Biden would be the favorite.

Because so-called faithless electors are rare, the position of elector is largely viewed as symbolic. Each party chooses people to serve as electors in the 50 states, and electors from the winning party convene in each state capital in December to officially select the president and vice president.

As Paul supporters fought for more prestigious delegate slots during state-level conventions this year, they also quietly accrued electors – some in Democratic states likely to be won by President Barack Obama, but also in a handful in states that Romney could take.

In Nevada, for example, Paul's forces seized control of the state convention and won a majority of delegates. They also placed four Paul supporters among the state's six electors.

The electors said they have had no organized discussion over how to cast their electoral votes and there have been no efforts by the campaigns to get them to vote for either Paul or Romney.


Nevada's electors are approaching their duties in different ways.

Jesse Law, an elector and Paul supporter, said he may have qualms with Romney but has always intended to cast his electoral vote for the party nominee.

"I just want to beat Obama," Law said.

But Ken Eastman may not cast his Nevada electoral vote for Romney, if the former Massachusetts governor wins the state. Eastman said he wants to explore options with Republican leaders in Clark County, a group now dominated by Paul supporters.

"I'm undecided at this point," Eastman said, adding that he's "pretty disgusted" with the national Republican Party and how it has worked to suppress Paul's grassroots movement. He said the GOP has not been open to an influx of people with different ideas.

In Texas, elector Billie Zimmerman said she sees Paul as the only candidate able to save the country. She considers Romney and running mate Paul Ryan to be just another couple of Republicans who will disappoint her, and she called the GOP convention a "shocking display of deception and treachery and cheating."

Zimmerman said she hasn't decided how she'll cast her electoral vote.

Along with the three electors looking at alternatives, Nevada GOP elector Ken Searles said he may vote for Paul as a protest, so long as his vote wouldn't change the outcome of the election. Another elector, Kathleen Miller in Alaska, said she is planning to vote for Romney but left open the possibility of a Paul vote if the outcome of the election was certain and Republican leaders continued what she called "shenanigans."

About half the states, including Nevada, have laws requiring electors to follow the popular vote. Nevada's statute carries no punishment, and it's unclear how it would be enforced. Election officials said they may turn to the courts to enforce the law if an elector strayed.

Tensions between the Republican Party and Paul supporters have been escalating for much of the year. At the Republican National Convention last month, Paul supporters booed as the party adopted new rules to make it more difficult for similar insurgent campaigns to gain traction in the future.

Paul has not endorsed Romney. His did not respond to requests for comment on the possible defection of GOP electors.

The Romney campaign sidestepped questions about the electors, with political director Rich Beeson saying Republicans "are united to defeat President Obama to get our economy back on track and Americans working again."

Often chosen during the convention process, electors are designated by each party to cast votes if their presidential candidate wins the state. A presidential candidate needs 270 of the 538 electoral votes to win.

The last time the House determined the presidential outcome was in 1825, when it selected John Quincy Adams after none of the four candidates won a majority of the electoral votes.

There have been a handful of faithless electors in recent years. In 2004, one Minnesota elector voted for John Edwards for president instead of his top-of-the-ticket running mate John Kerry. Many observers assumed that was simply a mistake. The Minnesota vote was done secretly, and no one ever claimed responsibility.

A District of Columbia elector abstained in 2000 to protest the lack of congressional representation for the district.

The last time multiple electors defected was in 1896, when William Jennings Bryan was the presidential candidate of both the Democratic Party and the People's Party, with both parties choosing different vice presidential picks. Twenty-seven electors in that race chose the People's Party ticket, even though it didn't win the popular vote.
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Astrology
Gary Johnson rectified

In case you would like to know who he is. Astrology is a kind of extra sense for knowing who someone is. A sense I would prefer not to be without.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnTN00lAp9M
http://www.youtube.com/user/govgaryjohnson?feature=relchannel

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Johnson#Personal_life
Johnson was married to Dee Johnson née Simms (1952–2006) from 1977 to 2005.[92] As First Lady, she engaged in campaigns against smoking and breast cancer,[93] and oversaw the enlargement of the Governor's Mansion. He initiated a separation in May 2005, and announced they were getting divorced four months later.[94] Dee Johnson died unexpectedly on December 22, 2006, at the age of 54.[95] It was established in February 2007 that her death was caused by hypertensive heart disease.[96] Syndicated columnist John Dendahl expressed shock upon her death, as she had been "very vivacious" only two weeks previously. After her death, Johnson said, "People couldn't have gotten a better number one volunteer, because that's what she was. Whatever [the issue] was, she had a caring approach."[95] Johnson and his late wife have two grown children:[92] a daughter, Seah (born 1979), and a son, Erik (born 1982).[97]
Johnson is now engaged to Santa Fe real estate agent Kate Prusack, whom he began dating in 2008 after meeting on a bike ride. Johnson proposed in 2009 on the chair lift at Taos Ski Valley Resort in New Mexico.[98] He lives with Prusack in Taos, New Mexico,[99][100] in a home that he built himself.[53] Johnson is an avid triathlete who bikes extensively and abstains from all recreational drug use, caffeine, alcohol, and some sugar products. During his term in office, he competed in several triathlons, marathons and bike races. He competed three times (1993, 1997, 1999) as celebrity invitee at the Ironman World Championship in Hawaii, registering his best time for the 2.4-mile (3.9 km) swim, 112-mile (180 km) bike ride, and 26.2-mile (42.2 km) marathon run in 1999 with 10 hours, 39 minutes and 16 seconds.[101][102] He once ran 100 miles (160 km) in 30 consecutive hours in the Rocky Mountains.[16] On May 30, 2003, he reached the summit of Mount Everest[11] "despite toes blackened with frostbite."[25] He has also climbed three more of the Seven Summits: Mount Elbrus, Mount McKinley, and Mount Kilimanjaro—the tallest peaks in Europe, North America, and Africa respectively. He ran in the 25-mile Bataan Memorial Death March in New Mexico, in which participants run in the desert in combat boots while wearing 35-pound packs.[103] On October 12, 2005, Johnson was involved in a near fatal paragliding accident when his wing got caught in a tree and he fell approximately 50 feet to the ground. Johnson suffered multiple bone fractures, including a burst fracture to his T12 vertebrae, a broken rib, and a broken knee.[104] He used medicinal marijuana for pain control from 2005 to 2008.[105]
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Jan 1, 1953 time unknown
rectified as 7:10am CST
Minot, North Dakota -- 48°13′59″N 101°17′32″W

co-rising with Al'tair - bold and independent, brave, daredevil energy, loves a challenge
co-culminating with Diadem - working for the benefit of a group, symbol of a crown not seeking recognition/fame, devoted to a cause

1977solarreturn: Cupido(2sc26) Rising(2sc21)
Johnson married 1977

transit Pluto conjunct MC
1979 became a Dad
Johnson and his late wife have two grown children:[92] a daughter, Seah (born 1979), and a son, Erik (born 1982).[97]

2003solarreturn: Kronos/Admetos(10ge24) = MC(11sg06)
On May 30, 2003, he reached the summit of Mount Everest

solararc Saturn(19sg25) conjunct Ascendant(19sg34)
He initiated a separation in May 2005, and announced they were getting divorced four months later.

2005solarreturn: Mars(4sg28)=Uranus(3pi55)=MC(4ge37)
transitSun(19li33)=solar return configuration
solararcSun(4pi25)=solar return configuration
solararcPluto(16li30) = radixMars(1pi16)/Uranus(16ca44)
On October 12, 2005, Johnson was involved in a near fatal paragliding accident when his wing got caught in a tree and he fell approximately 50 feet to the ground.

solararcMars(26ar03) = radixMoon(25ca54)/Saturn(26li16)
wife died on December 22, 2006

1995solarreturn: (AR/KR)(27ge07)=MC(26sg22)
Johnson served as the 29th Governor of New Mexico from 1995 to 2003
 
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It's a pleasure to encounter some serious astrologers in the libertarian community. I have a theory that it is possible to ascertain libertarianism, and lesser political ideologies, on an astrological natal chart by examining the placement of Pallas (after all, RP, Lew Rockwell, G Edward Griffin, Etienne de la Boetie, and Frederic Bastiat all have Sun conjunct Pallas). Pallas, in my research, displays a pretty much total correlation with the non-aggression axiom when interpreted carefully.

My web site supports my theory with approximately 400 examples of famous persons from across the political spectrum, under the search term "Political Ideology in Astrology".
 
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It's a pleasure to encounter some serious astrologers in the libertarian community. I have a theory that it is possible to ascertain libertarianism, and lesser political ideologies, on an astrological natal chart by examining the placement of Pallas (after all, RP, Lew Rockwell, G Edward Griffin, Etienne de la Boetie, and Frederic Bastiat all have Sun conjunct Pallas). Pallas, in my research, displays a pretty much total correlation with the non-aggression axiom when interpreted carefully.

My web site supports my theory with approximately 400 examples of famous persons from across the political spectrum, under the search term "Political Ideology in Astrology".
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There's a link to your web site about 15 messages back, I had a good look at it. I actually began this project with my progressed Sun conjunct Pallas.

So Romney picked a VP since I visited. I can see they have the same unpleasant political label: right wing authoritarian. And are thus actually different from the left wing authoritarian: a category shared by both Biden and Obama.

And Gary Johnson rated Libertarian. Johnson's VP pick, Judge Jim Gray is not listed. A project for you to figure out. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_P._Gray -- (born February 14, 1945)

oh, and I think I wanted to offer the suggestion to include parallels in your research because I'm not going to get graded as a libertarian without connecting my Sun to Pallas via parallels(Sun parallel Uranus and contraparallel Pallas). I have some recollection of this, but I can't be sure if I actually did or not.
 
Why would the stars give a damn about something as insignificant as humans...
 
Ariondys said:
There's a link to your web site about 15 messages back, I had a good look at it. I actually began this project with my progressed Sun conjunct Pallas.

So Romney picked a VP since I visited. I can see they have the same unpleasant political label: right wing authoritarian. And are thus actually different from the left wing authoritarian: a category shared by both Biden and Obama.

And Gary Johnson rated Libertarian. Johnson's VP pick, Judge Jim Gray is not listed. A project for you to figure out. -- (born February 14, 1945)

oh, and I think I wanted to offer the suggestion to include parallels in your research because I'm not going to get graded as a libertarian without connecting my Sun to Pallas via parallels(Sun parallel Uranus and contraparallel Pallas). I have some recollection of this, but I can't be sure if I actually did or not.
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Someone did write me anonymously about parallels with Pallas a few months ago (was that you?). I think they're valid, but I usually don't have to look at declination to see a justification on the natal chart for somebody's political views.

I started my Pallas research when my progressed Pallas stationed a couple years ago. Progressions and the like may be able to explain cases of people whose level of libertarianism tends to drift (maybe I'll get around to studying Robert Heinlein at some point).

Planning to get to Jim Gray when I get back from my current travels. Thanks!
 
Judge Jim Gray has Pallas trine Mercury, square Saturn and trine Uranus (co-rulers of Sun and Mercury), and ruled by Venus which is sextile Mercury and quindecile Jupiter. Except for the Jupiter quindecile to Pallas' ruler, this is a very strong libertarian chart using my methods. Probably a bit more libertarian than Gary Johnson himself, but by a hair not quite where Ron Paul and Lew Rockwell and company are.

As for fr33's comment about why the stars should give a damn about humans, I don't know for certain that they do... but there's no shortage of data that there are statistically significant correlations between events in the celestial and human spheres.
 
Thank you very much. I was concerned; the "by a hair" component was staring at me and my lack of understanding of your system was crudely suggesting a different result.
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On a slightly different topic. If libertarians were to pull together a party capable of producing competitive numbers, considering a categorical count of political views, that they would have to gain the support of left-libertarians, paleoconservatives, and principled progressives. Considering a purely statist-authority view vs. a free view. that perhaps there might be as many "Good" Pallas's as there is "Bad" Pallas's, if not slightly more.

Canada has made the move to a 3 party system. As our liberals declined, the NDP rose. In the interim this allowed the conservatives a majority where they had a minority government a couple times before. If the trend continued the NDP might become the new left, capable of unifying the left. Or perhaps staying a 3 way for some time.

The challenge to a society is to have some actual represention from all 3 major parties then, it's more manageable with different electoral systems. Then to get stuff done a minority government has to cross party lines to ask for support and can't just ram through their agenda.

Prior times, the right in Canada was divided. And the liberals were the government. Our current prime minister is supposedly credited with uniting the right. It's a noxious idea that to win all you have to do is divide your opponent while existing a right-left paradigm.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proportional_representation#Single_Winner_Systems
Proportional representation is often contrasted with single winner electoral systems. The most common of these is the winner-takes-all (or "first-past-the-post") system common in some countries of the former British empire, such as the United States, the UK, Canada and India. Most nations use the alternative systems, described as forms of "proportional representation"[citation needed] (see table below). Single Winner Systems tend to promote strongest two-party competition as it is in the US and in Canada. Effectively it eliminates smaller parties from parliament.
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The system I picked out as my favorite was the Bucklin system.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bucklin_voting#Example_application
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bucklin_voting#Voter_strategy
It would be my wish that every "former British empire" citizen understand this. (as well as the meaning of the word: gerrymandering)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerrymandering


Gerrymandering Explained:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mky11UJb9AY&feature=fvwrel
I had a little laugh watching the money move to weasel.

Multiple Party Gerrymandering [Bonus Video]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uR2DfpjIuXo&feature=relmfu
Mixed-Member Proportional Representation Explained
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QT0I-sdoSXU&feature=fvwrel
The Problems with First Past the Post Voting Explained
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7tWHJfhiyo&feature=BFa&list=ULy5UT04p5f7U
* *(this last one sums up pretty neatly the theme in this thing I am pointing out)

First Past the Post Voting + Gerrymandering = 2 party system.
Solution: Electoral Reform

I could take this moment to point out Canada's current PM once believed in Electoral Reform, at least until he figured out how to take over using the current system...
 
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The Alternative Vote Explained
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Y3jE3B8HsE&feature=BFa&list=ULs7tWHJfhiyo

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_vote


The alternative system would have Knoxville be the capital.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bucklin_voting#Example_application

The bucklin system would have Nashville.

Essentially, a visual tells me neither First Past The Post picking Memphis is right, nor clearly is Knoxville going to be right. But what is my visual seeing exactly. I was thinking in terms of gas driving perhaps. If this was a 2 dimensional political spectrum, it would be total political discontent. So I measured some abstract unit and multiplied and totalled the gas, or the political discontent.



Memphis
42% *0 units
26% *22 units
15% *29 units
17% *38 units
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16.53 units of political discontent


Nashville
42% *22 units
26% *0 units
15% *12 units
17% *17 units
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13.93 units of political discontent


Chattanooga
42% *29 units
26% *12 units
15% *0 units
17% *10 units
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17.00 units of political discontent


Knoxville
42% *38 units
26% *17 units
15% *10 units
17% *0 units
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21.88 units of political discontent

So this is why Nashville LOOKS like it should be the preferred capital, and why any voting system should be designed to select it. The Bucklin system is not ideal, some rare cases would select the inappropriate winner. If Political will could be measured using some kind of unit then a system could be developed that always minimized political discontent.

as an example of how fragile systems can be. I merely have to fiddle the numbers a tiny bit
If I set Memphis at 36%, Nashville at 28%, Chattanooga at 17% and Knoxville at 19%. I can have the Bucklin system now tie Chattanooga with Nashville. A slight change more and the place that makes the least amount of people chose for their 1st pick wins. Using this gas used, or total political discontent with my new numbers. Nashville is still the city I think should win.

Memphis
36% *0 units
28% *22 units
17% *29 units
19% *38 units
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18.31 units of political discontent


Nashville
36% *22 units
28% *0 units
17% *12 units
19% *17 units
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13.19 units of political discontent


Chattanooga
36% *29 units
28% *12 units
17% *0 units
19% *10 units
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15.70 units of political discontent


Knoxville
36% *38 units
28% *17 units
17% *10 units
19% *0 units
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20.14 units of political discontent


This makes electoral systems very difficult to design

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borda_count#An_example
a similiar intent in this system. Where would your 2nd choice be
 
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http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?391741-Rand-Paul-on-CNN-10-4-12-Starting-Point
Rand sure is getting the media mileage out of this book. At this rate, he's going to be quite a force in 2016.

It's probably the 10th appearance he's made in the last 2 weeks.
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Jupiter stationed this morning. Jupiter rules publishing, promotion, etc

This inner wheel is a Rand Paul solar return chart of the time I'm observing.
We can see Jupiter has been conjunct the MC of this chart for some weeks, and will continue to do so for some weeks.

If you saw Rand on The Daily Show
http://www.thecomedynetwork.ca/Shows/TheDailyShow?videoPackage=124588
there was "extended" interview off TV for the website. It was short on tv, like 5 minutes. But there's about a 1/2 hour of it.

Government Bullies
How everyday americans are being harassed, abused, and imprisoned by the Feds
by Senator Rand Paul
Forward by Ron Paul

4m43s (this part was on tv)
5m18s
5m28s (then it starts onto an old interview from mar 11 2011)
4m46s
7m54s

http://www.policymic.com/articles/1...annot-have-a-real-discussion-about-the-issues
 
best if you go to read it at the source, but it's the length of an essay, so I've extracted some paragraphs to point the case out. (Think good mason vs bad mason...)
http://zyntara.com/pdfs/Stars_Stripes.pdf

Yet a key date in US political events has been changed.

Like a seed it has been planted into different types of soil, time of different quality. What were and are these qualities and have these changes been of service or disservice to the presidency?

the United States had enshrined in its constitution that the inauguration would be held on March 4, unless that was a Sunday and then it was held on the March 5. However, with improvements in communication as well as travel, the lengthy time until the transition of power now seemed unnecessary and in 1933, with the passage of the Twentieth Amendment, the constitution was changed to move the date to January 20, unless that was a Sunday and then it was moved to January 21.

March 4, 1801 - Washington, DC and for the next hundred years the governing star took its position on the February 17th and these were the themes of that time:
THE ANNUAL THEMES THAT REOCCUR FOR THIS LATITUDE EVERY YEAR IN THIS ERA
Heliacal Rising Star
Deneb Algedi - Rising before Sunrise -
A time of the Establishment and the law
Heliacal Setting Star
Regulus - Setting before Sunrise -
A noble, righteous act that inspires the nation
Sun - The stars in paran with the Sun on this day
Setting when Alphecca
Strength and leadership found through hardship
Rising when Regulus
To engage in a noble, or military, endeavor
Rising when Mirach
The promotion of peace, or order, in a territory

January 20, 1937 - Washington, DC and for the next two or three decades the governing star took its position on the January 15th and these were the themes of that time:
THE ANNUAL THEMES THAT REOCCUR FOR THIS LATITUDE EVERY YEAR IN THIS ERA
Heliacal Rising Star
Acumen - Rising before Sunrise -
Scandal and rumors
Heliacal Setting Star
Capella - Setting before Sunrise -
A period which favors the independently-minded
Sun - The stars in paran with the Sun on this day
Setting when Schedar is Culminating -
The people, or an exalted woman, act with dignity
Rising when Algol is On Nadir -
A person who destroys through passion
On Nadir when Alpheratz is Setting -
To take independent action
Culminating when Altair is Culminating -
Bold or daring actions by a group or a person, military matters
Rising when Menkar is On Nadir -
A time of extremes of action, or weather

This is a vastly different theme to the March 4 date. Gone is the nobility, the honor, the action that inspires a nation. Not all presidents will be hounded by scandal and rumors and not all presidents will be driven to the extremes of the nuclear attack on Japan (symbolized by the joining of the two stars Algol and Menkar with the sun) but this is the soil in which the ritual of the inauguration was now planted. This is the potential into which the US presidents and thus US history are embedded from 1933 onwards.
 
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_time_in_the_United_States#War_Time_1918_and_1942
During World War II, Congress enacted the War Time Act (56 Stat. 9) on January 20, 1942. Year-round DST was reinstated in the United States on February 9, 1942, again as a wartime measure to conserve energy resources.[5] This remained in effect until after the end of the war. The Amendment to the War Time Act (59 Stat. 537), enacted September 25, 1945, ended DST as of September 30, 1945

Let's say "what if" Mitt Romney's birth time is in error possibly due to this.
And that the clock used was not yet using, then current, daylight savings time rules.

Plausability of this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_time_in_the_United_States#Daylight_Saving_Time_1945_to_1966
From 1945 to 1966 U.S. federal law did not address DST. States and cities were free to observe DST or not, and most places that did observe DST did so from the last Sunday in April to the last Sunday in September. In the mid-1950s many areas in the northeastern United States began extending DST to the last Sunday in October. The lack of standardization led to a patchwork where some areas observed DST while adjacent areas did not, and it was not unheard of to have to reset a clock several times during a short trip (e.g., bus drivers operating on West Virginia Route 2 between Moundsville, West Virginia, and Steubenville, Ohio had to reset their watches seven times over 35 miles).[6]

If DST was used, then the Midheaven becomes Capricorn, while the Ascendant is Taurus.

Why am I doing this?
I went in search of a Capricorn degree as I began roaming farther and farther from the minute of his birth. And I found the 22nd degree of Capricorn, I took this degree to a computer the next morning and found it almost exactly 1 hour different. And to be honest, I'm going to think about it now. But the signs on the angles of this are both earth signs and that is not the air signs gemini and aquarius that are there if you follow the rules of keeping time properly.(which I think I've just documented isn't guaranteed in 1947)

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/12/09/AR2007120901473.html

For Romney, that circumstance was a catastrophic moment on a winding two-lane highway through French wine country. A car heading north at about 60 mph missed a curve, barreled over a hill and veered into Romney's southbound lane. The car slammed into the front of the Citroen, knocking Romney out cold. Police who arrived at the scene on June 16, 1968, found pearl-like beads scattered across the road. The officer who discovered Romney, motionless and mangled, marked the young man's passport "Il est mort": He is dead.

June 16, 1968
transit Mars/Uranus 11 leo
progressed IC 12 leo
radix Pluto --------- 11 leo 22
:eek:
 
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...ST-Larry-King-hosts-third-party-faceoff/page3
Gary has definitely been eating his Wheaties. He's on fire tonight!
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US Third Party Presidential Debate (Moderated by Larry King)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EcaX12h46k

progressed Mars square Uranus(a mere 2 weeks past exact)
progressed Ascendant conjunct Mars
transit Saturn trine Mars
transit Sun 1degree applying to trine Mars



http://freeandequal.org/updates/second-2012-presidential-debate-october-30-in-washington-dc/
As a follow-up to Free & Equal’s October 23 debate at the Hilton Chicago, viewers of the first debate will choose which two candidates advance to the final debate on October 30 via instant runoff voting online. The debate will be broadcast live online and will focus on international issues.
 
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