Assange: Everyone wants Pence In and Trump Out

[specsaregood]

Trump only likes yes men and loyalists. Rand isn't one of those. No chance of Trump offering Rand anything.

Randal has been nothing but loyal if not sly about it. Everytime he is painted as in disagreement, he couches his position at matching that of Trumps and that it is the media and others that are disloyal.

 

[nikcers]

Pence was chosen to appease the Christian Dominionist sect as well as the GOPe. It was a negotiating tactic for further support and gains. The GOPe controls both the House and the Senate. Several appeasements were made so Trump's campaign and agenda could proceed forward.

What kind of negotiation tactic is that, I promise to let you kill me and have someone else do what you ordered me to do if I refuse to do it? What kind of negotiation gives the establishment everything? You would have to put someone there the establishment wouldn't want more then you for leverage against the establishment.

 

[dannno]

Why would anyone think that Trump would want to replace Pence with someone better? He chose him in the first place. Is this another area where we're going to pretend like Trump really wanted to do something great but couldn't because... reasons?

Reasons? You mean like winning the Presidency? Would you agree that it doesn't take much of an IQ to realize that is that pretty important?

 

[TheCount]

Pence was chosen to appease the Christian Dominionist sect as well as the GOPe. It was a negotiating tactic for further support and gains. The GOPe controls both the House and the Senate. Several appeasements were made so Trump's campaign and agenda could proceed forward.

Exactly the excuse I thought that you would make. You can't pretend like every single thing that Trump does that you don't agree with is somehow the fault of someone else besides Trump, while simultaneously attributing everything good that he does to him specifically. It's delusional.

 

[dannno]

What kind of negotiation tactic is that, I promise to let you kill me and have someone else do what you ordered me to do if I refuse to do it? What kind of negotiation gives the establishment everything? You would have to put someone there the establishment wouldn't want more then you for leverage against the establishment.

This is why you aren't the President.

 

[TheCount]

Reasons? You mean like winning the Presidency? Would you agree that it doesn't take much of an IQ to realize that is that pretty important?

Are you genuinely suggesting that Pence was the factor that won Trump the Presidency?

I've heard a lot of theories, but absolutely none of them named Pence as important whatsoever.

 

[oyarde]

Clinton is delusional . Pence could beat her in the same places Trump did . She is a globalist socialist at best. Those votes in Michigan and Wisconsin were not for trump but against clinton . Quite frankly the dem party will be dead when she is nominated again .

 

[dannno]

Exactly the excuse I thought that you would make. You can't pretend like every single thing that Trump does that you don't agree with is somehow the fault of someone else besides Trump, while simultaneously attributing everything good that he does to him specifically. It's delusional.

You think it is delusional to think that Trump may have lost if he had been perfectly straight forward about everything?

This is why you aren't the President.

 

[nikcers]

This is why you aren't the President.

No Trump is why idiots shouldn't be allowed to vote.

 

[AuH20]

Exactly the excuse I thought that you would make. You can't pretend like every single thing that Trump does that you don't agree with is somehow the fault of someone else besides Trump, while simultaneously attributing everything good that he does to him specifically. It's delusional.

No excuse. The plain facts. Pence is not the type of person Trump has associated with in the past. They are polar opposites in many respects. Christie would have made more sense. This relationship reeks of artificiality and political maneuvering.

 

[nikcers]

You think it is delusional to think that Trump may have lost if he had been perfectly straight forward about everything?

This is why you aren't the President.

How do you know Trump isn't being straight forward about everything?

 

[dannno]

Are you genuinely suggesting that Pence was the factor that won Trump the Presidency?

You think Trump only did one thing to win the Presidency?

Another reason you are not the President..

 

[dannno]

How do you know Trump isn't being straight forward about everything?

Do you think he has been straight forward about everything?

 

[TheCount]

Christie would have made more sense. This relationship reeks of artificiality and political maneuvering.

Christie is a weasel who wasn't even popular in his own state. What benefit would he have brought to the table?

If anything, selecting -anyone- except Christie was one of the best decisions Trump made during the campaign.

 

[AuH20]

Christie is a weasel who wasn't even popular in his own state. What benefit would he have brought to the table?

If anything, selecting -anyone- except Christie was one of the best decisions Trump made during the campaign.

My point being that at least Trump has a history with Christie. Pence was a stranger until a few months ago.

 

[CPUd]

Pence calls Assange tweets about 'Pence takeover' of White House 'absurd' and 'offensive'
By Andrew Kaczynski, CNN
Updated 12:47 PM ET, Tue March 14, 2017


(CNN)Vice President Mike Pence said Tuesday that two tweets from WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange claiming a possible "Pence takeover" of the White House were "absurd" and "frankly offensive."

"I would find all of that dialogue to be absurd and frankly offensive," Pence told radio host Laura Ingraham. "It is the greatest honor of my life to serve shoulder-to-shoulder with the 45th President of the United States. To see his leadership every day, to see the compassion that he has for the American people every day. I would dismiss that out of hand and tell you that I'm just, I'm so excited about the progress that we've been made strengthening this country, protecting this country, reviving this country's economy and all credit goes to President Donald Trump."

http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/14/politics/kfile-pence-julian-assange/index.html

 

[nikcers]

Do you think he has been straight forward about everything?

Listen to his actions and not his words and you will hear what I hear. That's what Ron Paul did, if you look at his progression over the Trump presidency he gave Trump the benefit of the doubt. Now he says that Trump is the same as Obama.

 

[TheCount]

My point being that at least Trump has a history with Christie. Pence was a stranger until a few months ago.

If you're suggesting that Trump has a history of associating with weasels and selecting them to be his advisers and yes-men, then we are in agreement.

 

[TheCount]

Do you think he has been straight forward about everything?

Generally speaking, yes. He was even straight forward about the things that his supporters thought that he didn't actually intend to do... such as boots on the ground in Syria and killing the families of terrorists.

 

[CPUd]

They are like cult members