Assange: Everyone wants Pence In and Trump Out

The military industrial complex already had lots of years to progress. We need to leave the middle eat. We need MEXIT. We need to bring our troops home. Why the fuck are we going to give the government another chance at the middle east. I don't want to take their oil- we could get off of oil if we really wanted to.

You should have voted for Trump. If he doesn't see progress, we will pull out. If there is progress, we will pull out in pretty short order.
 
You should have voted for Trump. If he doesn't see progress, we will pull out. If there is progress, we will pull out in pretty short order.

Well, that's up to the CIA and the generals now.
 
...It's delusional.

Of course it is. In order to continue to support this guy, they have to bend reality in all sorts of "interesting" ways. It is neither rational nor consistent. But they don't care. They have a cult of personality and they'll believe in it until the end.
 
You should have voted for Trump. If he doesn't see progress, we will pull out. If there is progress, we will pull out in pretty short order.
Maybe if we weren't having fake debates between Trump and Sanders and Trump didn't chicken out we wouldn't be having this false debate on healthcare that is really just a subsidy on insurance. I gave up believing in Trump when he refused to debate Sanders. Rand Paul begged to debate Sanders he would of destroyed him and his idea of a free lunch. They had their Rand Paul lite debate Sanders and since everyone hates Rand Paul lite no one heard the message of free markets or liberty.
 
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You think it is delusional to think that Trump may have lost if he had been perfectly straight forward about everything?

This is why you aren't the President.

If you know all these neat tips, why aren't you president?
 
There are all kinds of reasons thrown out there for why Pence was chosen as VP. But I never hear this one - What if trump chose Pence because he admired him and because he wanted to have someone on the same page to help him carry out his foreign policy agenda?

"I’ve found the leader that will help us deliver a safe society, and a prosperous, really prosperous society. Indiana Governor Mike Pence was my first choice." - DJt

One can admire trump for his initiative and efficiency. Surely nobody else would have ramped up war so quickly and virulently in their first month in office. He's remarkable. Who else would have handed the reins to the CIA and MIC so immediately and decisively? There's no need to replace him with Pence, who probably would be tepid in comparison.
 
Usually under scandal situations, but yes, POTUS can replace VP at will.

This is not true. The VP was elected. It's not like a cabinet position. He would need to be impeached by the House and convicted by Congress in order to get fired just like the President himself.
 
Are you genuinely suggesting that Pence was the factor that won Trump the Presidency?

I've heard a lot of theories, but absolutely none of them named Pence as important whatsoever.

I totally disagree with you. Pence was a huge factor in most never-Trump conservatives eventually caving. Trump barely won even with him, and certainly wouldn't have won without him.
 
No excuse. The plain facts. Pence is not the type of person Trump has associated with in the past. They are polar opposites in many respects. Christie would have made more sense. This relationship reeks of artificiality and political maneuvering.

I agree. Pence is Bush 2.0
 
This relationship reeks of artificiality and political maneuvering.

That's usually what the selection of a VP candidate is all about.

Trump wouldn't be in the WH now if he had chosen Christie or anyone else who wouldn't have expanded his support base.
 
There are all kinds of reasons thrown out there for why Pence was chosen as VP. But I never hear this one - What if trump chose Pence because he admired him and because he wanted to have someone on the same page to help him carry out his foreign policy agenda?

"I’ve found the leader that will help us deliver a safe society, and a prosperous, really prosperous society. Indiana Governor Mike Pence was my first choice." - DJt

One can admire trump for his initiative and efficiency. Surely nobody else would have ramped up war so quickly and virulently in their first month in office. He's remarkable. Who else would have handed the reins to the CIA and MIC so immediately and decisively? There's no need to replace him with Pence, who probably would be tepid in comparison.

Yep.
 
I totally disagree with you. Pence was a huge factor in most never-Trump conservatives eventually caving. Trump barely won even with him, and certainly wouldn't have won without him.
Hillary was so polarizing and hated that I think they would have shown up to the polls to vote against her even if Trump's VP pick had been the exhumed corpse of Michael Jackson.
 
president pence???... ugh!

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Well...probably couldn't get worse and I don't know what is worse...Trump or his groupies. A woman I know asked why couldn't Trump just sign an executive order to impose term limits on Congress.
 
Yes, you use that word quite a bit. Yes, the liberty people here are delusional to you. The only people not delusional to you are progressives.

The anti-trumpers are just as bad as the pro-trumpers. Both sides are anti-truth, anti-facts, and pro-feelings.

Could Trump have selected Pence for VP because he is a clean-cut, impressive(ish), moderate conservative? Sure.

Could Trump have selected Pence for VP to get the Neocon #nevertrumpers and establishment Republicans in Congress on board? Definitely possible.

Could the Deep State try to overthrow the Trump/Bannon Regime and install Pence ala George HW? It's happened before (for less).

Does it look like Pence and Ryan are establishment globalist lackeys pushing Obamacare-Lite? Sure does.

Could Trump (using Pence) be purposefully giving Ryan enough rope to hang himself with Obamacare-Lite? I wouldn't rule it out.

Interesting times indeed.
 
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