pcosmar
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Cattle, melons, and kids. Two of those things may get cut to ribbons by gunfire, and I doubt that law enforcement will aim at melons.
Fedzilla will be back to either bankrupt them in the Kangeroo courts or more than likely show up in their unawares and bulldoze the place over the bill.
If I was Harry Reid I would be on the phone pleading with the BLM not to go through with this. The economy is bad. No jobs. Saving destroyed. No sustainable future. Why put a huge bullseye on your forehead like that? And then stating that it's about the Law? Really? The same law that the chief legal authority Eric Holder scoffs at and selectively enforces? The same LAW that James Clapper broke? That inflexible construct?![]()
Unfortunately I have seen this before. The weight of the government usually crushes all the holdouts in the end. I saw very strong willed loggers and miners fight for years. The government can bide their time. I saw the same gun confrontations with quite a few miners and the feds back off but then come again. In the end they were smothered.
The difference now is that time is running out. America is on a 50+ year decline. The economy is slowly collapsing. Pensions are drying up.
I really think that what happened Saturday is a watershed event. A small one to be sure, but now there is a chink in the armor. Government employees basically do this for a pension. People at the Bundy Ranch are spending their own money. Government employees will not--can not--continue their endeavors over the coming decades when their very own financial infrastructure is falling apart.
The genie is now out of the bottle. People now know they can mount opposition. It is going to take a whole lot more than what they had Saturday; however, their (and our) resolve will continue to ascend, while the resolve of a financially failing government will decline.
Ah yes,, your usual message.
"Give up, don't try, you can't win against the almighty government." (paraphrased)
Go lick boots elsewhere.
Yes he has. Many times,, any time anyone even mentions the proper and rightful use of the 2nd amendment.NO ONE SAID TO GIVE UP.
Yes he has. Many times,, any time anyone even mentions the proper and rightful use of the 2nd amendment.
The difference now is that time is running out. America is on a 50+ year decline. The economy is slowly collapsing. Pensions are drying up.
I really think that what happened Saturday is a watershed event. A small one to be sure, but now there is a chink in the armor. Government employees basically do this for a pension. People at the Bundy Ranch are spending their own money. Government employees will not--can not--continue their endeavors over the coming decades when their very own financial infrastructure is falling apart.
The genie is now out of the bottle. People now know they can mount opposition. It is going to take a whole lot more than what they had Saturday; however, their (and our) resolve will continue to ascend, while the resolve of a financially failing government will decline.
Yes he has. Many times,, any time anyone even mentions the proper and rightful use of the 2nd amendment.
It was the arms that backed off the BLM..
Not the unarmed protesters.
They tazed them. They sicked dogs on them. and would kill them without blinking.
It was the force of arms.. the rifles that surrounded them that caused them to back off and to surrender the stolen cattle.
I hope so. But, you and I both know that if the feds use the full complement of their weaponry, they can squash these guys like little bugs.
I'm guessing this is it here: http://goo.gl/maps/9mtrQ
This sign out by the road shows up on google street view too.
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I hope so. But, you and I both know that if the feds use the full complement of their weaponry, they can squash these guys like little bugs.
The key, I would think, is to get the word out more so that the public realizes what is going on. The one thing the feds can't afford is for a mass awakening.
Ron Paul’s Reaction to the Standoff in Nevada with Federal Officials
April 14, 2014 – I’ve had a lot of questions asked of me about the episode out in Nevada. I was happy to hear about the federal officials backing off because I was concerned that violence might break out. In many ways, the people spoke out after determining that the federal government had overstepped itself and fortunately their presence did not result in violence. However, I worry about whether or not this is all over because you have the sort of on-again, off-again situation like that of Waco which, of course, ended in violence. I’m hoping that the federal officials don’t come back determined to use violence to remove this family from this house and this land.
This is a typical example of when everyone owns a piece of land and no one does all at the same time. They sort of have an agreement – a lease – where they have been raising cattle on this land for 130 years then all of sudden the rules change. This type of problem wouldn’t happen in Texas because all the land is owned privately. Its makes the point that no one really knows who is in charge. It makes the point that state and private ownership would have prevented this type of problem.
There’s two things that come out of this: one, when the American people speak out, their voices can be heard and can effect what government is doing. Two, it empathizes the value of private property and ownership rather than having collective ownership by a government.
As much as I’d like to see this as a victory for the people, I’m afraid the government has more guns, more power and more determination to express their authoritarianism. They will be back and that means a confrontation between the people and those in our government undermining our liberties – the confrontation will continue.