Armed Drone Caught On Camera Outside Chicago Prior To NATO Summit (video)

[Carson]

Ron Paul's Battle Plan

See it live! Well as live as it gets.

 

[Kluge]

These videos can be faked. I will acknowledge that.

Is this one fake? I don't know. The fakes I've seen look much higher quality than that one though. Could be real

I'm pretty sure this one is faked, but it's quite sad that soon there will be real ones. If you want to go full-retard*, speculate whether this fake was put out there to gauge reaction.

*Heard the phrase "going full-retard" the other day, cracked me up. It seems to mean "heading into uncharted territory without a single thought of why this might not be a good idea." No offense is intended.

 

[Carson]

I've been driving across Ohio for many years, I lived in Erie for many years, authority or not, we NEVER had them around. We had the Coast guard, because our border is 40 miles of water.

They are around now.

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2012/04/faa-releases-its-list-drone-certificates-leaves-many-questions-unanswered



P.S. If you click the map, it isn't the places marked you have to worry about. It is all of the places in between!

 

[Carson]

 

[DerailingDaTrain]

Didn't WAC put those up or some other group as a joke?

 

[pcosmar]

Didn't WAC put those up or some other group as a joke?

Nope,,
As Education.

 

[Domalais]

I've proved that the US Air Force has, and is operating predator drones inside the U.S. for surveillance purposes.

Your 'evidence' directly contradicts what you're saying. The article you posted specifically states that they are not being operated by the Air Force, and the Air Force publication that you posted points out that they are incapable of doing what you say that they are doing.

Now here's were the whole "inadvertently" part kicks in. The drone spying on Americans (on behalf of the Po Po so it's all okay) inside America might pick up video of Americans that the Po Po didn't have a warrant or probable cause to spy on. I sincerely hope that helps you disentangle your confusion.

Your ability to purposely misread things to agree with your preconceived notions of what is really going on in the world amazes me.

The intelligence oversight policy has nothing to do with warrants, and everything to do with citizenship and nationality.

 

[pcosmar]

The intelligence oversight policy has nothing to do with warrants, and everything to do with citizenship and nationality.

BULLSHIT.

It has to do with CONTROL..
nothing else.

 

[pcosmar]

This tape may well be faked. It also may well been released as a "trial balloon".

The media is now reporting on Drone use. Admiring it in the past and expansions in the near future.

The very concept of these is wrong. and they should not be allowed,,ever. They should be slapped from the sky each and every time they are seen.
This should absolutely NOT be tolerated.

 

[Carson]

Didn't WAC put those up or some other group as a joke?

I would guess that pcosmar comment is pretty close to the truth.

Nope,,
As Education.

As a joke it isn't very funny. I suppose I should have said this is fake or something. Sorry.

 

[GeorgiaAvenger]

Likely fake, though they do exist.

 

[jmdrake]

Your 'evidence' directly contradicts what you're saying. The article you posted specifically states that they are not being operated by the Air Force, and the Air Force publication that you posted ponts out that they are incapable of doing what you say that they are doing.

Bollocks. The first article did I posted didn't say drones couldn't be operated by the airforce over U.S. soil. It spelled out the conditions that drones could be operated.

Air Force Unmanned Aircraft System (UAS) operations, exercise and training missions will not conduct nonconsensual surveillance on specifically identified US persons, unless expressly approved by the Secretary of Defense, consistent with US law and regulations. Civil law enforcement agencies, such as the US Customs and Border Patrol (CBP), Federal Bureau of Investigations (FBI), US Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), and the US Coast Guard, will control any such data collected.

You must not understand the meaning of the word "unless".

The drones in the 2nd article were predators operating from a U.S. Airforce base. So Air force predator "can carry hellifire missile" drones are being flown over the interior U.S. and they were being flown earlier without public knowledge.

 

[jmdrake]

BULLSHIT.

It has to do with CONTROL..
nothing else.

+rep

 

[Captain Shays]

What would it take to bring one of those down?

 

[pcosmar]

What would it take to bring one of those down?

/evil grin

Thinking about that.

 

[GuerrillaXXI]

Everyone should keep in mind that these Predators can't do much that couldn't just as easily be done with manned aircraft. Cameras are cameras, whether they're on an unmanned aircraft or a manned helicopter or spy plane. What makes them offensive is their ability to stay in the air longer than is comfortable for pilots. Still, they can't observe everything and everyone at once. They need to know what to look for. In Afghanistan/Pakistan, for example, many if not most drone strikes are actually guided by human intelligence on the ground.

As for the smaller drones likely to get the most use by the pigs, they're really just RC aircraft with expensive cameras attached. If you want to evade one of these, enter the nearest dense forest -- assuming you can't get away before they can put the thing in the air.

I'm much more concerned at this point about networks of ground surveillance cameras than about drones. Consider the statewide linking of thousands of cameras in Ohio:

http://www.morningjournal.com/articles/2010/10/25/news/doc4cc5868fc39f8505331907.txt

If those cameras are ever equipped with the capability to automatically track people from one camera to the next across the whole state -- a capability that already exists in much smaller camera networks -- then people will really be forced to make the choice between living as domestic cattle or fighting to their last breaths so that freedom doesn't die forever.

 

[Anti Federalist]

This this a thousand times this.

That is when the Matrix closes in for good.

Everyone should keep in mind that these Predators can't do much that couldn't just as easily be done with manned aircraft. Cameras are cameras, whether they're on an unmanned aircraft or a manned helicopter or spy plane. What makes them offensive is their ability to stay in the air longer than is comfortable for pilots. Still, they can't observe everything and everyone at once. They need to know what to look for. In Afghanistan/Pakistan, for example, many if not most drone strikes are actually guided by human intelligence on the ground.

As for the smaller drones likely to get the most use by the pigs, they're really just RC aircraft with expensive cameras attached. If you want to evade one of these, enter the nearest dense forest -- assuming you can't get away before they can put the thing in the air.

I'm much more concerned at this point about networks of ground surveillance cameras than about drones. Consider the statewide linking of thousands of cameras in Ohio:

http://www.morningjournal.com/articles/2010/10/25/news/doc4cc5868fc39f8505331907.txt

If those cameras are ever equipped with the capability to automatically track people from one camera to the next across the whole state -- a capability that already exists in much smaller camera networks -- then people will really be forced to make the choice between living as domestic cattle or fighting to their last breaths so that freedom doesn't die forever.

 

[sailingaway]

this just came across twitter. For any DHS slumming here, it's a joke.

 

[oyarde]

Hellfires are air-to-surface missiles.

Correct , so what would they use to enforce it , fighters would be too expensive ?

 

[Domalais]

Bollocks. The first article did I posted didn't say drones couldn't be operated by the airforce over U.S. soil. It spelled out the conditions that drones could be operated.

Air Force Unmanned Aircraft System (UAS) operations, exercise and training missions will not conduct nonconsensual surveillance on specifically identified US persons, unless expressly approved by the Secretary of Defense, consistent with US law and regulations. Civil law enforcement agencies, such as the US Customs and Border Patrol (CBP), Federal Bureau of Investigations (FBI), US Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), and the US Coast Guard, will control any such data collected.

You must not understand the meaning of the word "unless".

The drones in the 2nd article were predators operating from a U.S. Airforce base. So Air force predator "can carry hellifire missile" drones are being flown over the interior U.S. and they were being flown earlier without public knowledge.

1) That article is discussing what is required to surveil US persons regardless of where in the world they are. If you read more of the paper, the areas I already quoted, it specifically states that the US military cannot spy on Americans in the course of their domestic activities, regardless of approval authority or collaboration.

2) If you think that the Border Patrol owns Predators with hellfires attached, then, well... LOL. It means nothing that they're launching from an Air Force airstrip.


The kool-aid is strong with this one.