Are you with us or against us?

[Highland]

Still what is the line on constructive criticism that we can all live with?

 

[aravoth]

Brad you know how thankful I am for your helping to jumpstart our NYC ballot efforts, but man this is just sixth grade internet bullshit. I've been essentially neutral with all this ridiculous infighting going on as I hoped adults could sort things out, but that doesn't seem to have occurred.

I seriously cannot believe you did this. It seems way outside the scope of your level-headed approaching of things.



And just as a note on the C4L as I've kept pretty quiet on it. I could care less how hard you guys rally against the C4L. But when someone posts a pro-C4L item and you all fire bazookas against it, I don't see why you go all exorcist-child when you post i-hate-C4L stuff and people defend the C4L...just seems like a double-standard to me.

Whatever though. You're adults (most of you). If you want to keep wasting time, I ain't going to stop any of you.

This.

Brad, pull the shrink wrap off your nuts.

 

[Bradley in DC]

This is sad.

If Dr. Paul couldn't manage his staff, or delegate responsibility, maybe he wasn't the man for the job.

WTF?

He delegated responsibility to those not up to the job when expectations changed from just an educational endeavor to what we wanted--a campaign aimed at winning the nomination. And there were some Nadia Hayes-types too.

 

[Bradley in DC]

What you insinuated however, Bradley, was that there are current members of the campaign/C4L that were involved in that embezzlement. And you imply that with NO substantiating facts. If those people you named were involved in the 1988 embezzlement, there should have been charges made. If so, do you have those ready to show? Or, are you just gossiping? Again.

I am saying that those having worked for--or are working for--Dr. Paul are not above questioning. I sounded alarms. Some chose to defer blindly to the campaign, their "stealth" strategy, that they knew what they were doing. They didn't. Had they not been so hostile to the grassroots who knows how far we could have gone.

Pointing out mistakes of those who work for Dr. Paul is not "shitting on Ron" nor disloyal but the only way we can move forward...realistically.

 

[Bossobass]

This.

Brad, pull the shrink wrap off your nuts.

This + 1.

Brad, you're an idiot.

Bosso

 

[Jaykzo]

This + 1.

Brad, you're an idiot.

Bosso

If this is the way we treat one of the hardest working members of the Revolution, then we will have a long way to go before our goals are accomplished.

 

[Lord Xar]

If this is the way we treat one of the hardest working members of the Revolution, then we will have a long way to go before our goals are accomplished.

So Ron Paul is not above reproach, but Bradley is? Who has worked harder than the man himself - yet Bradley at every turn is in some way creating negative associations with him or by proxy - those very close to him.

I mean, it appears to me - and I could be wrong, but isn't Bradley doing to LE what he has done to most everyone in Ron Pauls' HQ staff?

Who knows Bradley, you might be right - but your delivery always begs questions, and concerns. I see alot of truth in some of the things you have said, I do - but I sense a motive i am not comfortable with.

I make no bones about it. I like LE. I think her concerns and forceful nature is because she feels so deeply about the movement, and Ron Paul himself.

I am an easy going guy and I am starting to get annoyed.

 

[Lord Xar]

I am saying that those having worked for--or are working for--Dr. Paul are not above questioning. I sounded alarms. Some chose to defer blindly to the campaign, their "stealth" strategy, that they knew what they were doing. They didn't. Had they not been so hostile to the grassroots who knows how far we could have gone.

Pointing out mistakes of those who work for Dr. Paul is not "shitting on Ron" nor disloyal but the only way we can move forward...realistically.

Ok. I can get onboard with this. But what now? Why now? Are you hoping that we turn away from the Campaign for Liberty with the fears you have installed in many of us? What?

Lets clear the table and wash the dishes. What now? What is the motive, what is 'YOUR' plan and what you hope to happen as we move forward?

 

[Roxi]

WHAT THE HELL is going on here? the forums i love, and hold a highly regarded addiction to is going to SHIT, and you guys are making me CUSS now.... GET OVER this 3rd grad BULLSHIT.... my 6 year old is more mature then some of you

 

[Bradley in DC]

Ok. I can get onboard with this. But what now? Why now? Are you hoping that we turn away from the Campaign for Liberty with the fears you have installed in many of us? What?

Lets clear the table and wash the dishes. What now? What is the motive, what is 'YOUR' plan and what you hope to happen as we move forward?

Now: Dr. Paul did not get the nomination, it's after the fact. No one can say clearing the air was me derailing his nomination quest. (I've hardly said anything of CFL.)

Motive: There are some who have an attitude that blind faith in staffers must not be questioned. I'm pointing out that that attitude undermines our movement--and hoping we can now move forward like adults for a change.

My motivations have always been to protect and defend Dr. Paul and his ideals (same as the Congressional office and his long time political machine in Lake Jackson)--even from interlopers.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Am I understanding this shit correctly?

WRellim was banned for calling into question the accounting of C4L???

And that "insider deals" were the reason for the atrocious "He's catching on I'm telling ya ads"???

God I hate freakin' politics

 

[Truth Warrior]

[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif][FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Hidden History: Where Organized Crime and Government Meet[/FONT][/FONT]

http://www.lewrockwell.com/burris/burris10.html​

 

[SnappleLlama]

I need more coffee for this....what's with all the negative threads lately? it should be one of the most positive weeks in recent memory for the revolution, considering the awesomeness of the rally and ronstock, etc.

Caffeeeiiineee.....

 

[Truth Warrior]

Am I understanding this shit correctly?

WRellim was banned for calling into question the accounting of C4L???

And that "insider deals" were the reason for the atrocious "He's catching on I'm telling ya ads"???

God I hate freakin' politics

Welcome aboard.

 

[Truth Warrior]

I need more coffee for this....what's with all the negative threads lately? it should be one of the most positive weeks in recent memory for the revolution, considering the awesomeness of the rally and ronstock, etc.

Caffeeeiiineee.....

Did you happen to hear ANY NEGATIVES at the rally, ronstock, etc.?

 

[constituent]

Welcome aboard.

4reel

 

[Anti Federalist]

Welcome aboard.

WTF???

I've got those threads going in Hot Topics trying to find out why, I thought he might have threatened to knock somebody's block off or something.

Now I seem to find out it was some sort of back room backstabbing over legit questions???

 

[constituent]

WTF???

I've got those threads going in Hot Topics trying to find out why, I thought he might have threatened to knock somebody's block off or something.

Now I seem to find out it was some sort of back room backstabbing over legit questions???

glad to see you back though.

 

[Truth Warrior]

WTF???

I've got those threads going in Hot Topics trying to find out why, I thought he might have threatened to knock somebody's block off or something.

Now I seem to find out it was some sort of back room backstabbing over legit questions???

I was simply referring to your, "God I hate freakin' politics.", last line of your post.

 

[Anti Federalist]

I was simply referring to your, "God I hate freakin' politics.", last line of your post.

Hah! I thought you might have been "in the know" in this soap opera.

But still, WTF?