Are you with us or against us?

[Sally08]

It's obvious. Bradley's intention is to destroy any plans that Ron Paul has and he has been doing that behind the scenes for a very long time.

LE, you're beginning to sound like a broken record.

Again, Josh posted earlier today that you are free to leave.

Why don't you join CFL, instead of being one of the great dividers on RPFs?

 

[Highland]

clearly.

it's called stinkfinger. we see it often round these parts.

I just wanna know one thing...seriously, do ya'll expect us not to have any questions, complaints or suggestions for Dr. Paul on his platform...if so, that sucks...because everyone is human, including Dr. Paul.

 

[Highland]

what is CFL anyway?

 

[constitutional]

I have no flipping clue what these guys are babbling about.

Ron Paul and his staff can take all the campaign money and flee to Europe for all I care. And you guys can become neocons for all I care. No one is stopping me or other million or so that have woken up.

The REVOLUTION CONTINUES!!

 

[Highland]

I have no flipping clue what these guys are babbling about.

Ron Paul and his staff can take all the campaign money and flee to Europe for all I care. And you guys can become neocons for all I care. No one is stopping me or other million or so that have woken up.

The REVOLUTION CONTINUES!!

QFT...nice reality check!

 

[Sally08]

what is CFL anyway?

You may know it as C4L?

The Campaign For Liberty.

 

[nullvalu]

what is CFL anyway?

Welcome to the movement

 

[Cowlesy]

Brad you know how thankful I am for your helping to jumpstart our NYC ballot efforts, but man this is just sixth grade internet bullshit. I've been essentially neutral with all this ridiculous infighting going on as I hoped adults could sort things out, but that doesn't seem to have occurred.

I seriously cannot believe you did this. It seems way outside the scope of your level-headed approaching of things.



And just as a note on the C4L as I've kept pretty quiet on it. I could care less how hard you guys rally against the C4L. But when someone posts a pro-C4L item and you all fire bazookas against it, I don't see why you go all exorcist-child when you post i-hate-C4L stuff and people defend the C4L...just seems like a double-standard to me.

Whatever though. You're adults (most of you). If you want to keep wasting time, I ain't going to stop any of you.

 

[nullvalu]

You may know it as C4L?

The Campaign For Liberty.

I like C4L better, CFL reads too much like CFR, and that scares me.

 

[Sally08]

I like C4L better, CFL reads too much like CFR, and that scares me.

And CFL is for Canadian Football League.

Yet again, however, most organizations define their own acronyms/logos.

 

[bew2005]

I do not post often but read these forums regularly. I do not have a clue what the accusations are but only hope we can quickly come to a resolution and group up. I am so disheartened to see the infighting going on in our small group. We are so few in numbers that we have to be able to work together to get this country back on track. The Constitution Party and Libertarian Party are perfect examples - come on.....get it together, literally. Having just returned from the Rally for the Republic, this is a kick to the gut.

 

[Bradley in DC]

You are a snake.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=22

+ Insulting or personally attacking other users is not allowed by any member. There is very little tolerance for violations, particular for new members. Reason: Insults lead to relational which often result in disruption, which dilute the resources of members and the intent of the forum.

Time to hang up your moderator hat.

Perhaps you'd be better off taking this forum owner's advice and just leave the forum completely.

You were dying to get this information out there to make another stab at harming Ron Paul.

Again, the Nadia Hayes fiasco has been public record for twenty years. Those protecting those that harm Dr. Paul and his good name are the ones doing him harm: Just as Bush's black and white "with us or against" view harms this country.

You made the threat to me privately and I told you to do whatever you wanted. Your actions reflect on you; not me.

I posted my own private words to you.

My actions: I warned our movement a year ago that those running Dr. Paul's campaign were not up to the job we were asking of them. He got 15 national convention delegates. That's what, $2-3 million per delegate? And that's just the money we donated to the official campaign. I know of no way of calculating how many grassroots volunteer hours that would be per delegate.

So we are again at a crossroads. Listen to those who support Dr. Paul and warn of the icebergs ahead and hope we can correct them and win--or we follow you and others who would defend the Nadia Hayes' traitors to our movement.

 

[Ozwest]

I do recall that Bradley was ringing alarm bells a long time ago.

 

[Highland]

Welcome to the movement

Ya'll changed the name on me! lol

 

[user]

Can someone summarize.

 

[Bradley in DC]

It's obvious. Bradley's intention is to destroy any plans that Ron Paul has and he has been doing that behind the scenes for a very long time.

Translation: Long live Nadia Hayes!

 

[Highland]

I repeat, what is the line of discussing weaknesses in the campaign or Dr. Paul...we really need to have that clarified, which would alleviate many of the problems we are having.

 

[Bradley in DC]

I repeat, what is the line of discussing weaknesses in the campaign or Dr. Paul...we really need to have that clarified, which would alleviate many of the problems we are having.

Some of the mods are out of control trying to stifle any independent thinking and questioning. One long time poster was excellent at analyzing the financial records. I sounded the alarm a year ago that the ones in charge of the delegate process for the official campaign (Joe Becker and Mike McHugh) not only didn't know that there were RNC by-laws but argued with me for weeks whether they had to comply with them! There were lots of others who similarly tried to help right the ship.

Now some of these mods are channeling Nadia Hayes: you're either with us or against us! The are killing our forum--and the movement.

 

[LibertyEagle]

Interesting to see if MsD and LE were moderators in 1988 if they would have quickly banned WRellim and others for exposing the embezzlement then. Anyone questioning nefarious activities is obviously "shitting on Ron", right?

No one is questioning the fact that there was embezzlement in the 1988 campaign. There are news stories for people to read about it on Google, if they choose. From what I read, when it was realized that this embezzlement was going on, the woman was arrested and put in jail. That is not the issue. While disgusting, this type of thing apparently happens in a lot of campaigns. Which is also readily apparent by checking Google.

What you insinuated however, Bradley, was that there are current members of the campaign/C4L that were involved in that embezzlement. And you imply that with NO substantiating facts. If those people you named were involved in the 1988 embezzlement, there should have been charges made. If so, do you have those ready to show? Or, are you just gossiping? Again.

 

[Highland]

have you tried to report it to Dr. Paul?