Are you voting for Trump in November?

[nikcers]

What if he *is* for auditing the fed, and isn't making a big deal out of it because it won't help him with the dumbed-down masses he needs to get him into office?

[h=3]74% Want to Audit the Federal Reserve[/h]

"I want the establishment -- look, I was part of the establishment. Let me explain. I was the establishment two months ago. I was like the fair-haired boy. I was a giver, a big giver. Once I decided to run, all of a sudden I'm sort of semi-anti-establishment."-Trump

 

[SovereignMN]

I voted NO because I intend to vote for Darrell Castle. Minnesota is almost assuredly not in play for Trump. If we get closer to election day and Minnesota could be the tipping point between a Hillary or Trump Presidency, then maybe I'll change my mind. But as long as Minnesota is solid-blue there is no reason NOT to vote 3rd party.

 

[Suzu]

[h=3]74% Want to Audit the Federal Reserve[/h]

74% +/-3% of 1,000 people three years ago, the last of five questions in the survey.

National Survey of 1,000 Adults
Conducted November 6-7, 2013
By Rasmussen Reports

1* Do you have a very favorable, somewhat favorable, somewhat unfavorable or very unfavorable impression of the Federal Reserve?

2* Do you have a very favorable, somewhat favorable, somewhat unfavorable, or very unfavorable impression of Ben Bernanke?

3* Do you have a very favorable, somewhat favorable, somewhat unfavorable, or very unfavorable impression of Janet Yellen?

4* Does the chairman of the Federal Reserve Board have too much power, not enough power or about the right amount of power over the economy?

5* A proposal has been made to audit the Federal Reserve and make the results available to the public. Do you favor or oppose auditing the Federal Reserve?

NOTE: Margin of Sampling Error, +/- 3 percentage points with a 95% level of confidence

Not necessarily the most popular issue right now.

 

[nikcers]

74% +/-3% of 1,000 people three years ago, the last of five questions in the survey.



Not necessarily the most popular issue right now.

lol your argument is invalid even if it wasn't popular its not unpopular. Someone with a large following like Trump can use his power for good or evil. How do you think audit the fed became popular in first place?

 

[notsure]

With 26% saying "yes"; maybe we should get rid of this banner,

and start welcoming the new people Trump has brought out and who have voted to make Trump the nominee. Alot of these are new people, who gravitate to Trump because of his celebrity status and see him as an anti-establishment, anti-globalist candidate. Rand Paul and the Liberty movement in general could benefit from these "new voters". Or, we could continue to push them away with this up-front, anti-Trump rhetoric. Personally, I don't think it's right for the forum to display banners such as this, that don't represent the view of all the forum members.

 

[phill4paul]

With 26% saying "yes"; maybe we should get rid of this banner,

and start welcoming the new people Trump has brought out and who have voted to make Trump the nominee. Alot of these are new people, who gravitate to Trump because of his celebrity status and see him as an anti-establishment, anti-globalist candidate. Rand Paul and the Liberty movement in general could benefit from these "new voters". Or, we could continue to push them away with this up-front, anti-Trump rhetoric. Personally, I don't think it's right for the forum to display banners such as this, that don't represent the view of all the forum members.

It does represent the view of the site. We evaluated Trump and he came out as a non-supported candidate. It's been settled.

 

[notsure]

It does represent the view of the site. We evaluated Trump and he came out as a non-supported candidate. It's been settled.

It obviously doesn't represent the view of the site, or not the forum members for that matter, or else 100% would have voted "no". This banner accomplishes nothing, besides trying to turn off potential supporters who voted for Trump as an anti-establishment candidate.

 

[CPUd]

It obviously doesn't represent the view of the site, or not the forum members for that matter, or else 100% would have voted "no". This banner accomplishes nothing, besides trying to turn off potential supporters who voted for Trump as an anti-establishment candidate.

Trump is not a anti-establishment candidate. If you believe otherwise, feel free to make your case here:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?491719-Campaign-Evaluation-Donald-Trump-(POTUS)

 

[phill4paul]

It obviously doesn't represent the view of the site, or not the forum members for that matter, or else 100% would have voted "no". This banner accomplishes nothing, besides trying to turn off potential supporters who voted for Trump as an anti-establishment candidate.

How does it feel to be wrong?

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?491719-Campaign-Evaluation-Donald-Trump-(POTUS)

The site owner, along with the majority of members, do not want any support of Trump on this site as it is in direct contradiction to Ron Paul. It's already been hashed out. Sorry if you were not here for that.

 

[rpfocus]

"Ron Paul says he won't vote for presumed Republican nominee Donald Trump in the presidential elections, even if it meant it would hand the election to Democratic front-runer Hillary Clinton."

http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/ron-paul-wont-vote-donald-trump/2016/05/04/id/727244/

 

[notsure]

How does it feel to be wrong?

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?491719-Campaign-Evaluation-Donald-Trump-(POTUS)

The site owner, along with the majority of members, do not want any support of Trump on this site as it is in direct contradiction to Ron Paul. It's already been hashed out. Sorry if you were not here for that.

According to almost 27% of the people voting in this poll, and the handful of positive Trump comments peppered throughout this forum; you are wrong. I'm sorry you feel the need to enforce your ideas and opinions on others, even if they are a minority in the forums.
What I think is an even bigger mistake is the pushing away of new voters Donald brought into the system. People who voted for Trump as a change-maker, or anti-establishment anti-politician. These are supporters that could help Rand and his legislations, and the Liberty movement in general. Instead of trying to grow our numbers and form coalitions on things we agree on, I don't know why we're upfront trying to turn people away. To me, it seems counter-productive to the Liberty movement.

 

[notsure]

Trump is not a anti-establishment candidate. If you believe otherwise, feel free to make your case here:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?491719-Campaign-Evaluation-Donald-Trump-(POTUS)

I didn't exactly say Trump was an anti-establishment candidate. I said the majority of Trump supporters I know, and what from what I've seen around the country, see Trump as an anti-establishment anti-politician. You can easily find supporters on youtube claiming to be voting for Trump because they see him as a change-maker, as something different than what we've been getting. These kind of voters, people who are looking for something different, who lean toward anti-establishment candidates, are people who we should be welcoming into the Liberty movement.

 

[CPUd]

I didn't exactly say Trump was an anti-establishment candidate. I said the majority of Trump supporters I know, and what from what I've seen around the country, see Trump as an anti-establishment anti-politician. You can easily find supporters on youtube claiming to be voting for Trump because they see him as a change-maker, as something different than what we've been getting. These kind of voters, people who are looking for something different, who lean toward anti-establishment candidates, are people who we should be welcoming into the Liberty movement.

Unfortunately, many of these voters are authoritarians who are more than willing to choose safety over liberty. Any attempt to bring them into the fold would require a commitment to educating them, or they otherwise will do more harm than good.

 

[pcosmar]

Unfortunately, many of these voters are authoritarians who are more than willing to choose safety over liberty. Any attempt to bring them into the fold would require a commitment to educating them, or they otherwise will do more harm than good.

every now and then you let on that you may not be the troll you started as.

 

[John F Kennedy III]

Because choosing between "yes" and "no" is too difficult

Banned? Nice. Hopefully Farreri is next.

 

[Peace&Freedom]

Trump is not a anti-establishment candidate. If you believe otherwise, feel free to make your case here:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?491719-Campaign-Evaluation-Donald-Trump-(POTUS)

No thanks, I prefer non-kangaroo courts. If a candidate "evaluation" leaves out the strategic aspect, the thematic aspect, the populist aspect or any other relevant political dimension to liberty other than positions, it is fatally flawed and worse than useless. Trump is an anti-establishment candidate. If you believe otherwise, feel free to make your case with Nigel Farage, Chuck Baldwin, Phyllis Schafly, Pat Buchanan, millions of pro-outsider primary voters, etc. As for the topic, I will be voting for Johnson, also due to his campaign being overall helpful to liberty and the LP, even though his positions can certainly also be questioned.

 

[John F Kennedy III]

In terms of liberty, GJ is what's left on the toilet paper when Ron Paul wipes himself.

 

[dean.engelhardt]

Yes to fast forward the burning of both parties and get to the reset button faster. Neg me but it is the truth.

Got to respect that. + Rep

 

[LifeLibertyPursuit]

Got to respect that. + Rep

Both parties are originators and promoters of special interest and corruption. Gary doesn't excite me nor does he unite the factions inside the libertarian party, Hillary will protect the establishment and grow the corruption, Trump will just make everyone question everything because the media will have no choice. Not saying he will change the system himself but moreso indirect changes will happen if he is president because of who he is. Basically the best scenario for the liberty movement to grow and influence the system because the public will be open to ideas and change. Hillary will blind the masses and Gary will be puppet in the end and used as an excuse that third parties are useless. Do not fall for it. I guess everyone needs to step back and see the chess board but I respect eveyone's choice because it is their right to vote for who they want.

 

[Suzu]

the 3 biggest concerns for me are jobs, the TPP and auditing the fed.

2 out of 3 with Trump isnt bad.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/701868541545295872