Are You Ready to Pay $50 for a 100-Watt Bulb?

[GunnyFreedom]

Best I can tell looking at a WSJ graph, some 13% percent of people taking it to trial are acquitted. I would be somewhat surprised if it is that high.

I'm going through some stats now to see if I can't get a definitive percentage. No doubt it is an absurdly one sided statistic.

Couple that in with Three Felonies a Day, and the various federal bureaucracies making laws as they go, and this is a serious problem.

As I've noted in other threads, 83% of the "crimes" compiled within the Uniform Crime Report are not crimes. There is no victim. The majority of the 83% being drug related. Of the remaining 17%, a large portion of that are property crimes. These could be handled absent incarceration.

So I guess the real question to be asked, considering these absurd and depressing statistics, is: Just where and the fuck do these nationalistic brain dead assholes get off waving flags and bragging about freedom?

At the risk of invoking Godwin's law, but for the sake of illustration, the Germans on Hitler's GOOD side were actually pretty free...

 

[Anti Federalist]

So I guess the real question to be asked, considering these absurd and depressing statistics, is: Just where and the fuck do these nationalistic brain dead assholes get off waving flags and bragging about freedom?

Because that's how it's always been done.

 

[Big Chuck]

http://www.postandcourier.com/article/20120129/PC1602/301299979



http://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/index.ssf/2009/03/press_columnist_david_mayos_la.html


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ice-thermal-imaging-camera.html#ixzz2woJKeWq4




http://rt.com/usa/raid-finds-tomatoes-pot-183/





Now, I could post many more stories highlighting aerial sightings of sunflowers being sworn on an affidavit to be marijuana plants leading to raids, or the many homeowners killed through the police's ridiculous tactics, while all the while tying it to the erosion of the Exclusionary Rule, Qualified Immunity, and the Circular Force Continuum. You may be wondering what my point is. My point is simply that they can get a warrant because of electrical usage abnormalities. The two circumstance test is not required. That does not mean that they will not attempt to make their warrant look stronger than it is (that way if they fuck up, which they know is a very real possibility, they can point to the various things and cower behind their qualified immunity). The officer may cite garbage cans not being put out on trash day, or vehicles coming and going, or a heat signature abnormal to the other homes in the neighborhood, or a skunky smell, or cameras on the outside of the home, the purchase of grow lamps and more. There is a practice of "warrant shopping" that is prevalent as well.

As to why the electric company would wish to inform upon their most valuable customers, I can only assume it is because they, individually, sat through some 17,000 hours of indoctrination, some of which included seminars from DARE officer friendly to turn in their parents, and because they are petty. I really can't rightfully say why some people feel so compelled to call the police. It's a weird, and prevalent, phenomenon. An electric company actively ignoring abnormal electrical patterns would not be above the DOJ's harassment. I'm also not specifically aware of what laws are in place regarding this. It has happened. It will happen again. And if it's your freedom on the line, one would be wise to take heed to the various unconstitutional, criminal tactics that the police are using and the help they are receiving from companies and people in general.

Court papers recently filed in the case revealed that investigators were tipped off by the tenant's utility company. Edisto Electric workers called police after noticing unusually high electricity use on the property and numerous instances of tripping circuits, authorities said.

I call shinanigans on this one.

There are just too many reasons someone would have a higher electric bill. Unusual meter readings happen all the time. I prepare bills for a client who resells electricity. Pretty much every month there are unusual readings and it is my job to provide accurate estimates. I have to make up estimates literly every month mostly because electric meters are so prone to failure and are junk for the most part. These are commercial tenants, but even if they were residential, illegal activity would be my last assumption. There are just too many more probabable explanations. There is not someone at the power company looking at usage patterns saying, "Hmm, this guy's AC might be on the fritz, or maybe he has a bad meter, I better call the police."

One of two things is going on. This media outlet has there facts mixed up or the police lied because they didn't go through the proper channels do get that persons power usage.

 

[Danke]

this thread screams to me that I am no longer a fit for these forums.

those with the most rep I have the least respect for.

so never mind me people. I'm slowly backing away towards the door.

A Real Conservative...

 

[ARealConservative]

A Real Conservative...

the tin foil hat morons will never to admit they were wrong.

 

[Danke]

the tin foil hat morons will never to admit they were wrong.

Everybody can be wrong, do you have specific examples of forum members being wrong?

 

[GunnyFreedom]

Everybody can be wrong, do you have specific examples of forum members being wrong?

I dunno. Maybe this guy likes the CFL mandates?

 

[ARealConservative]

I'm not a betting man, so I only bet on sure things:

The AgileWaves whole house home energy monitoring system, that will monitor down to each outlet and what's on it.



Highly Detailed Information Puts Users In Control
Sometimes it can be hard to figure out where your energy is going within your home. But with monitoring systems like this, the information can get extremely detailed. With Agilewaves' system, users can look at energy use in each room of the home, and will soon be able to see pinpointed information down to even the exact appliance and outlet.

Already, a parent can see if their teen has been watching television in their room all night long. But in the next iteration of the system, they'll be able to pinpoint, say, a leaky irrigation system as the reason for a spike in their water bill.

Additionally, the system itself uses an extremely low wattage - between 20 and 30 watts depending on the size of the system - so it makes as little impact on homeowners' energy use as possible.

http://www.treehugger.com/files/200...home-energy-monitoring-system-at-wcg-2008.php

5 years in, and this still does not exist.

agilewaves is defunct, and no system is in existance that will report on a 100 watt light bulb.

how many more years do you need before you admit you are full of shit?

 

[phill4paul]

5 years in, and this still does not exist.

agilewaves is defunct, and no system is in existance that will report on a 100 watt light bulb.

how many more years do you need before you admit you are full of shit?

Seems you forgot to close the door on your way out.

 

[ARealConservative]

Seems you forgot to close the door on your way out.

I come back periodically. the idea that people with an interest in Rand Paul have to see the totality of bullshit some of the posters around here deal in is unnerving.

 

[DevilsAdvocate]

Think about it this way, how much energy did it cost to manufacture this bulb? It costs $50, probably a heck of a lot. To mine the materials, ship them, assemble them, drive everybody involved with the expensive manufacturing process to work...etc. The energy waste has simply been moved from the Consumption end to the Production end. And we're all supposed to feel good about ourselves.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

Think about it this way, how much energy did it cost to manufacture this bulb? It costs $50, probably a heck of a lot. To mine the materials, ship them, assemble them, drive everybody involved with the expensive manufacturing process to work...etc. The energy waste has simply been moved from the Consumption end to the Production end. And we're all supposed to feel good about ourselves.

I actually do. I'm very rural and my power is full of spikes and browns. I used to go through an entire house of incandescents nearly every month. I just had my first LED die after 5 years, and it was a cheapo. I'm definitely saving money by buying more solidly engineered LED bulbs. Especially now that you can get 100 watt equivalents for around $10.

 

[Ronin Truth]

No, but I'm just about ready to begin smuggling in light bulbs from Canada and Mexico.