Are You Ready to Pay $50 for a 100-Watt Bulb?

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Are You Ready to Pay $50 for a 100-Watt Bulb?


The Blaze / AP
May 17, 2011


Two leading makers of lighting products are showcasing LED bulbs that are bright enough to replace energy-guzzling 100-watt light bulbs set to disappear from stores in January.

Their demonstrations at the LightFair trade show in Philadelphia this week mean that brighter LED bulbs will likely go on sale next year, but after a government ban takes effect.

The new bulbs will also be expensive — about $50 each — so the development may not prevent consumers from hoarding traditional bulbs.
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Flashback:

2011 - Michele Bachmann Pushes Back Against Incandescent Light Bulb Ban
Minnesota Representative Michele Bachmann, who introduced the Light Bulb Freedom of Choice Act (H.R.5616) in 2008 to blunt the incandescent light bulb ban signed into law by President George W. Bush in 2007.​

2011 - Republicans Seek Repeal of Incandescent Bulb Ban
Senators Jim DeMint and Mike Enzi introduced legislation that would reverse the ban on incandescent light bulbs passed as part of the 2007 environmentalist, green energy push.​

2010 - The CFL Bulb Is Not Environmentally Friendly
Though for millions of environmental activists the Compact Fuorescent Light bulb (CFL) has become a popular mascot rivaling the World Wildlife Fund's panda bear symbol, the bulb is anything but environmentally friendly.​

2010 - Death of the Incandescent Light Bulb
In response to the 2007 Energy Independence and Security Act, which bans the use of incandescent light bulbs by the year 2014, General Electric has shut down its last factory in the United States that makes the incandescent light bulb.​

2010 - UN & Big Business Call for Global Light Bulb Ban to Save Climate
The United Nations and its corporate allies called for a global ban on incandescent light bulbs and kerosene lamps Wednesday at the COP16 global-warming summit in Cancun, claiming in a new study that “energy-efficient” lights would reduce the amount of carbon dioxide emissions.​
 
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I am for LED technology but that halogen crap is pure useless. They die so fast. Any idea how long this LED bulb will last?

LED is the future. They are cool to touch. Movie industry is already moving towards LED lighting on sets.
 
I am for LED technology but that halogen crap is pure useless. They die so fast. Any idea how long this LED bulb will last?

LED is the future. They are cool to touch. Movie industry is already moving towards LED lighting on sets.

And that has what, exactly, to do with government forcing you to buy them?
 
Oh boy, will I get rich? I have a huge supply of 100 watt incandescent bulbs. It's not like they don't keep well.
 
Oh boy, will I get rich? I have a huge supply of 100 watt incandescent bulbs. It's not like they don't keep well.

Trouble is, your new "smart meter" that electric utilities all across the country are installing, can detect the load of an incadescent bulb on your house grid.

Thus earning you a visit from Officer Friendly and his buddies:

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Trouble is, your new "smart meter" that electric utilities all across the country are installing, can detect the load of an incadescent bulb on your house grid.

Thus earning you a visit from Officer Friendly and his buddies:

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please stop, this isnt even close to true.
 
Isn't this what prompted Rand's famous (and excellent) speech on th Senate floor about bulbs and toilets?
 
Trouble is, your new "smart meter" that electric utilities all across the country are installing, can detect the load of an incadescent bulb on your house grid.

Thus earning you a visit from Officer Friendly and his buddies:

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Thats my local sheriff's dept showing up for a snatch on someone behind on child support , or failure to appear for driving without obtaining a license .....
 
the part about a smart grid being able to tell if you have a incandescent bulb vs another device consuming 100w,
the part about getting a visit because of it.

i agree with what is being said in principle [govt shouldnt be outlawing bulbs], but to say that someone can tell that you are using a specific bulb via your homes [bulk] energy meter, and the subsequent visits from a officer, is imo a huge stretch.
 
I've been stockpiling 100-watt bulbs for months. Will it be illegal to sell them on eBay? ;)
 
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the part about a smart grid being able to tell if you have a incandescent bulb vs another device consuming 100w,
the part about getting a visit because of it.

i agree with what is being said in principle [govt shouldnt be outlawing bulbs], but to say that someone can tell that you are using a specific bulb via your homes [bulk] energy meter, and the subsequent visits from a officer, is imo a huge stretch.

Yes they can, and yes you do get raided, although not for bulbs, yet.

The cops monitor electric usage and bust people all the time for having indoor pot grows.

They use electric usage rates, and those rates can be extrapolated to determine if incandescent bulbs are being used, and those rates are tabulated and monitored closely by the new "smart meters".

So, while you may not get raided right away for bulbs, once inside your house, you'll get busted for "contraband" incandescent bulbs.

Whistle past the graveyard at your own peril.


Could your electric bill trigger a marijuana SWAT raid?

This week Colorado police arrested 3 people for growing marijuana inside their home after noticing their “high” electric bill.

If you follow the news, you’ll notice “electric bill raids” are not uncommon. Police often resort to mining electric bills, since it’s cheaper than using heat sensing cameras with helicopters and potentially less troublesome legally.

So for those of you who keep the air conditioner, 3 TVs, a computer and a washer/dryer running, you might be wondering whether see your electric bill as suspicious.

http://www.thelegalizationofmarijua...-electric-bill-trigger-a-marijuana-swat-raid/



BC Hydro's new digital technology will be able to detect marijuana growing operations

One of British Columbia's biggest underground industries could find itself short-circuited by a BC Hydro technology upgrade.

Hydro is moving ahead with a plan to replace mechanical electricity meters with smart meters across the province that are expected to make it a lot tougher for indoor marijuana growers to conceal their operations.

Smart meters represent the first major upgrade on conventional analog electricity meters in a half century. Hydro last month issued a request for proposals for companies to bid on installation of new, digital meters as well as the accompanying hardware and software, to serve all of its customers by 2012.

The principal benefit of the upgrade is to allow Hydro to better manage its electrical grid.

For example, Hydro will receive instantaneous reports of blackouts rather than waiting for customers to phone them with the information.

However, Hydro is touting detection of electricity theft as a significant side benefit for its customers.

Electricity theft was estimated in 2006 to cost Hydro $30 million per year -- which would work out to at least $40 million with today's two-tier electricity rate -- equivalent to a one-percent rate hike.

"At the market value of [purchasing] new energy supply, the cost to our legitimate customers would be significantly more -- even if the total quantity of gigawatt hours stolen has not increased since 2006," said Cindy Verschoor, Hydro smart meter program communications leader, in an e-mail.

"The smart metering and infrastructure program will help to identify theft where and when it is occurring and mitigate impacts on legitimate ratepayers."

Illicit marijuana production in B.C. has been estimated to have an annual retail value of between $4 billion and $5 billion.

Conventional wisdom holds that residential-based grow operators have either tampered with their existing meters or rewired nearby distribution power lines in order to mask the large volume of power they need to run the lights that serve their indoor nurseries.

In a recent interview, a senior executive with a B.C.-based company that has already installed millions of smart meters for utilities around North America said that its workers immediately detect illegal electricity consumption when they attach the new meters to the outside of homes and commercial businesses.

It's a side-effect of the installation, Corix Utilities (U. S.) vice-president and general manager Kevin Meagher said.

"We are verifying first of all ... is the system is safe? Is that little box on the side of your house safe? Is it grounded? Are there the right voltages based on the [customers'] records and so forth? That's all part of the installation process. We are testing all of that," Meagher said.

"How we find these [illegal] things is that we will get a back-feed that tells me there is power coming from somewhere else on this premise through the system. That's usually an indicator that there is a grow house or something else on it."

Hydro won't divulge specific details on how smart meters will detect theft, but Verschoor acknowledged that the Crown corporation expects that tampered meters will be discovered by contractors during the initial installation process.

"While evidence of electricity theft will be reported to BC Hydro, the smart meter installers are not going to be conducting investigations or intruding on customer privacy," Verschoor said.

"In general, theft detection will involve accurately measuring how much electricity is going into an area [such as a neighbourhood] and that data will be compared to metered consumption from customers in the area.

"This is akin to a retail chain comparing how much inventory is delivered to each store by how many units are sold at the cash registers in that store."

She added that the new system will give Hydro better "visibility" of its grid.

"We can determine sources of energy loss from a variety of causes, including theft."

Discussion board participants on cannabis culture sites across the English-speaking world have been expressing a degree of paranoia about the new technology, with similar meter installations proceeding in many countries.

Advocates of legalizing marijuana, meanwhile, think the grow operations most likely to be detected by the new meter technology are family enterprises.

"Prohibition breeds creativity for getting around obstacles and law enforcement, so there will be ways for large-scale growers to go undetected," Jodie Emery said in an e-mail.

Emery's husband is Marc Emery, an outspoken advocate of pot legalization now serving five years in a U.S. penitentiary for a mail order business that shipped marijuana seeds from Canada to the United States.

"They can just get generators, or buy entire gas stations (as we've seen done in the past), or use new LED lighting technology, or grow smaller crops in more locations, which actually spreads the problem out and makes it harder to detect," Jodie Emery said.

"The most dangerous aspect of the smart meter program is that it means small-scale, mom-and-pop indoor gardens will be more likely to be shut down, whereas organized crime can afford the techniques and technology to avoid detection (in the ways I outlined above). So it puts more of the cannabis market into the hands of gangs, and out of small-scale personal gardeners.

"No matter what BC Hydro does with smart meters, grow ops will never go away unless cannabis prohibition ends."

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Author: Scott Simpson
Date: 9 August 2010
Source: Vancouver Sun
http://www.vancouversun.com/technology/Sma...6236/story.html
 
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the part about a smart grid being able to tell if you have a incandescent bulb vs another device consuming 100w,
the part about getting a visit because of it.

i agree with what is being said in principle [govt shouldn't be outlawing bulbs], but to say that someone can tell that you are using a specific bulb via your homes [bulk] energy meter, and the subsequent visits from a officer, is imo a huge stretch.

I wouldn't be so sure... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smart_meter these things are capable of real time monitoring and logging.

Regarding the enforcement, check this out: http://www.nytimes.com/1998/04/30/us/3-businessmen-testify-of-armed-raids-by-irs.html IRS agents are conducting raids!
 
Perhaps 100 Watt incandescent light bulbs could be a new currency. (If only they weren't so fragile.)
 
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