Are You a Cruz supporter?

Do you support Cruz?


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Well geez, as much as I want it to be, this is not just some game about our pride. We're talking about who might run the country for the next 4-8 years! A lot can happen in 4-8 years. If Rand drops out, but there's still a candidate better than Trump who gives me something to fight for, I'm going to root for that outcome to happen. On Saturday morning, I voted for Cruz, which helped him pull out the unexpected win of Maine. With Trump, you don't know how successful his plans will be, but you pretty much know what his intentions will be in office; Trump's a big government conservative with Christie-esque enthusiasm behind big government, and he's not very fiscally conservative. With Cruz, you have a possibility that he will be corrupt, but that's only the negative end of the possible outcomes. We don't know exactly what Cruz's intentions are, but the worst that Cruz's intentions will be is as bad as what you'd get from Trump. Most on here assume that every single conspiracy theory about Cruz being corrupt will be true, so that they can push Cruz's ill-intention level as worse than the ill-intent you know Trump has. Note: I am a conspiracy theorist, but I never believe that conspiracies have a 100% chance to be true... A lot of libertarian purists on here cringe at seeing anybody who is strongly religious come into power, so they want to believe that Trump is better than Cruz, which biases their judgement; this is similar to how liberals want to believe that Democrats have the better economic system, because Dems share their anti-traditional values and it's convenient if the Dems are right on everything else. Cruz is the only one left in the race that has a shot at being a good president. If you need a few reasons for Cruz being better than Trump, see Justin Amash's endorsement. A lot of people on here are comparing voting for Cruz or Trump in the primaries to the ill-advised principle of "voting for the lesser of two evils". But if Rand is out of it, you aren't helping the Republican party by voting for Cruz or Trump to get the nomination, since there's going to be a Republican nominee anyways. You're only helping the Republican party by voting Republican in the general election. So the downside in voting for Cruz or Trump in the nomination process is really that it may cause the individual to feel enthusiasm for a candidate with many negatives, which could blur the lines of the liberty movement. I am very strong in my liberty principle, but I need to root for an outcome despite Rand being out of it, mostly to stay sane by having something to hope for. If Cruz turns out to be corrupt, then I'll get right on the anti-Cruz train.
 
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I won't support Cruz because hes a snake and opportunist. It says a lot when Ron and Rand hasn't endorsed Cruz. Ron and his supporters helped Cruz win Texas Senate. Rand and Cruz both supported each other in the Senate.

I think the Pauls and Cruz probably just on neutral terms instead of cordial like before. I'd like to think Rand would still be in the race and be 2nd or 3rd place if Cruz dropped out or wasnt in the race in the first place hehehe.
 
I'm supporting Cruz. If he wins the nomination, he'll be better than any Republican to have won it in almost 30 years. Must better than Poppy Bush to Romney.
 
Asking if we support Cruz is ambiguous

There are two completely different questions:
1. Who do you want to be president?
2. Who among those who have an actual chance of winning do you want to be president?

I'm with Amash and Sowell on this: Cruz is obviously NOT the answer to #1, but he certainly IS the answer to #2, and that's why I'm voting for him.

The ideal would be STV or Condorcet voting, but sadly, we don't have that. See http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...d-Cruz-(POTUS)&p=6175513&posted=1#post6175513
 
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