Are you a Constitutionalist or an Anarchist?

[ARealConservative]

look at those numbers. Its official. Ronpaulforums.com is dead.

huh?

The anarchist numbers are ridiculously high, but school is out for summer, so it is to be expected.

 

[Dr.3D]

And how do you expect the people to enforce the Constitution?

Via the 1st amendment, and if that fails, via the 2nd.

 

[Minarchy4Sale]

huh?

The anarchist numbers are ridiculously high, but school is out for summer, so it is to be expected.

Dude, the commies are inside the wire. Time to call artillery on our own position.

 

[mczerone]

Wouldn't an Anarchist just want to move to a deserted island to setup their Anarchist Utopia?

Why would you think that? Do you want to move to an island to institute your perfect society? Or, more likely, do you wish to protect your property and stay connected with your family while helping to change the system that surrounds you?


Consensualists, Voluntaryists, panarchists, anarcho capitalists, even some 'anarchists' themselves don't visualize a perfect utopia free from want and neglect, the see a world where violence is recognized as such and condemed, instead of used by a small group of men in the name of a "nation".

If you want a world where 100% of the people in a geographic area that is not your property must live by your system and dictates, I suggest you move to a deserted island, for only in the absence of others will you find complete agreement amongst your peers.

 

[South Park Fan]

Via the 1st amendment, and if that fails, via the 2nd.

And what do you do when the government starts infringing on the 1st and 2nd amendments?

 

[Dr.3D]

And what do you do when the government starts infringing on the 1st and 2nd amendments?

That is something called a revolution.

 

[rp08orbust]

look at those numbers. Its official. Ronpaulforums.com is dead.

If the minarchists are giving up on the Ron Paul Revolution and the anarcho-capitalists are staying, what does that say?

 

[South Park Fan]

That is something called a revolution.

So, what's the point of having a Constitution if revolution is necessary to make sure the government abides by it? Wouldn't it be better to avoid that violent cycle by allowing people to opt out of the government if they so choose?

 

[acptulsa]

And what do you do when the government starts infringing on the 1st and 2nd amendments?

First you make a mess.

Dude, the commies are inside the wire. Time to call artillery on our own position.

Then you clean it up.

If the minarchists are giving up on the Ron Paul Revolution and the anarcho-capitalists are staying, what does that say?

That the anarchists are as stubborn as the socialists, and we could stand to get a little more mule-like ourselves.

 

[Minarchy4Sale]

If the minarchists are giving up on the Ron Paul Revolution and the anarcho-capitalists are staying, what does that say?

It says we are fucked.

 

[Dr.3D]

If the minarchists are giving up on the Ron Paul Revolution and the anarcho-capitalists are staying, what does that say?

It's says, those who have given up coming to these forums have noticed it has been infiltrated by those who would destroy the movement.

 

[mczerone]

Via the 1st amendment, and if that fails, via the 2nd.

How's that working?

Has your dissent speech really retarded the growth of government or restrictions of liberties?

Has the threat of your meager arsenal made the Fedgov bow in fear and not impose more regulations?

Try defending yourself from the SWAT team performing an illegal drug raid by brandishing anything that remotely looks like a weapon and you'll be a forgotten martyr by noon the next day. Try formulating a grand oratory against the evils of our unConstitutional empire, and you will be denounced by TPTB and ignored by their sheep.

Stop living with the rights that the constitution gave you, and find your own voice, your own fiber of being, and speak freely without caring about the 1st Amendment. Carry a weapon without saluting the Second Amendment. Abstain from claiming to own another human being without pretending that the 13th Amendment is your purpose.

 

[South Park Fan]

It's says, those who have given up coming to these forums have noticed it has been infiltrated by those who would destroy the movement.

I'm fine with minarchists as long as they wish to work toward the goal of reducing the size of government. I wish that you would think the same way toward us anarcho-capitalists.

 

[pcosmar]

Other
I am a free Individual, I am also a Christian.
I am not an anarchist. I see government as a necessary evil that needs to be limited.
I think our Constitution was the best attempt at this end, but through neglect it has been nullified.
I am an Angry American.

 

[mczerone]

It's says, those who have given up coming to these forums have noticed it has been infiltrated by those who would destroy the movement.

Good, its a free world, and you are entitled to take your party elsewhere. As long as I am welcome here, I'll continue the struggle for Liberty through cooperative means and intellectual discourse.

You go whine about how someone who disagrees with you could possibly rally behind the same person as you.

 

[Dr.3D]

Good, its a free world, and you are entitled to take your party elsewhere. As long as I am welcome here, I'll continue the struggle for Liberty through cooperative means and intellectual discourse.

You go whine about how someone who disagrees with you could possibly rally behind the same person as you.

Ron Paul is a Constitutionalist.

 

[ChaosControl]

I don't know. Somewhere in between.

I like anarchy as an ideal. But I'm fine with minarchy as a compromise.
I think a government existing is fine, as long as I can live my life free from it, assuming I do not violate another individual's liberty.

 

[rp08orbust]

Ron Paul is a Constitutionalist.

Ron Paul believes in the right of secession, which is just one of the many logical routes to anarcho-capitalism.

While the United States exists, I'm a Constitutionalist as well for practical purposes.

 

[Scofield]

Via the 1st amendment, and if that fails, via the 2nd.

Rebellion is unconstitutional.

 

[Brassmouth]

Good lucking fighting tanks and missiles.

And what exactly would they bomb? The capitol? Oh wait, there is none. The military? Nope, it's decentralized.

Hmm...tricky.

Not to mention guerrilla warfare is next to impossible for a socialized military to defeat.

They want the land and resources. They can build their own homes.

Who is "they?" The fictional fictional invaders in your imagination?