Are we REALLY this weak?

[acptulsa]

Obama WILL bankrupt this nation if he already hasn't, and even Romney won't do near the damage if given 8 years that Obama has done in 3.5

Why does this sound so familiar?

Oh, yeah. I heard the same thing about Dubya. Right before he made the debt skyrocket with a couple of meaningless wars and a massive giveaway to the rich, the wealthy, and other Dubya supporters.

So, Obama's worse because he purported to be a man of peace and Romney's worse because he purports to be conservative. If it weren't for liars we wouldn't have any MSM-approved candidates at all.

 

[Libertytree]

Rmoney is the fascist Ron was referring to in his speech the other night.

 

[jolynna]

Rmoney is the fascist Ron was referring to in his speech the other night.

BINGO.

 

[TrishW]

I am either writing in Ron Paul or staying home. I don't see any other options. Perhaps if Ron does not make the ballot (still praying for a miracle) then I will get to know the libertarian candidate. But I can assure you, there is no way, I can vote my conscience and cast a vote for Romney or Obama... it just can't be done.

 

[NIU Students for Liberty]

For those of you willing to vote for Romney for "strategic" reasons, you do realize that Republicans will go back to sleep if Romney were to take office, right?

 

[NorfolkPCSolutions]

I will write in RON PAUL if not in the ballot in Nebraska.

(Edited to reflect my state.)

Liberty, people. That's the goal here. Even Gary Johnson is a better alternative to supporting the globalist puppets Robamney or Black Jesus.

 

[Anti Federalist]

There is no difference, of course.

But that still won't change the minds of some folks.

We had plenty of McPain wobblies around here last go around as well.

There will be plenty of Obamney wobblies this time, who have swallowed the whole "Obama is evil" story hook, line and sinker.

And who would that be? A tyrant in Democratic clothing or the tyrant in Republican clothing? What makes the tyrant with the "R" less destructive than the one with the "D"?
They BOTH want more war.
They BOTH ignore the constitution
They BOTH have the same puppetmasters.

So what's the difference?

 

[NorfolkPCSolutions]

For those of you willing to vote for Romney for "strategic" reasons, you do realize that Republicans will go back to sleep if Romney were to take office, right?

Yup...

...and in the process, move the football back half the distance to the goal. I will not support Obama. I will, however, view his inevitable re-election as a better outcome than supporting the GOP in any fashion; insofar as taking a long view. A second shot of Black Jesus will help us to turn up the volume on the alarm clock a little louder still.

Waking up the people, and illustrating their subservience to government, is the goal here at RPF - the nomination of Ron Paul is/was merely one facet of our movement, I believe. Regardless of 2012's outcome, I anticipate reading articles in the coming year along the lines of, "Why are these Ron Paul people still organizing, still blah-blah-blah-ing..."

 

[Anti Federalist]

I rest my case.

Anyone who votes for or hopes Obama wins is going to permanently set the movement back. If Obama wins, everything is over. There will be NO TURNING BACK. Just look at what he has accomplished in less than 4 years.

No, I'm not voting for Romney but would we be able to use some muscle against Romney and maybe keep the Overton Window from moving too far Left with permanent irreversible damage? Possibly until 2016.

It's why Dr. Paul said he did not "fully endorse" Romney. Read between the lines people.

Come November, we will have a new president (elect), and his name sadly won't be Ron Paul. No one enjoys voting for the lesser of evils, but our nation can NOT survive another 4 years of Obama. I WILL vote for the GOP nominee, whoever that is. Even if it was Lindsey frickin Graham! (barf, puke) Obama WILL bankrupt this nation if he already hasn't, and even Romney won't do near the damage if given 8 years that Obama has done in 3.5

RAND PAUL 2016 or 2020

 

[acptulsa]

I rest my case.

The old 'Atlanta's my team and I won't turn my back on it just because it stars a convicted dog abuser' logic...

 

[ShaneEnochs]

When was the last time a sitting President was beaten? It's been a while, right? (1992 doesn't count)

 

[acptulsa]

When was the last time a sitting President was beaten? It's been a while, right?

Ironically enough, Dubya's daddy. Because it's the economy, stupid.

Which is why it amazes me to see them trying to shove Romney down our throats. In theory, the real unemployment rate of 25% ought to guarantee the GOP a victory. But when you look at the approved clown--er, I mean candidates, I can't help but think they really don't want to beat Obama.

 

[ShaneEnochs]

Ironically enough, Dubya's daddy. Because it's the economy, stupid.

Which is why it amazes me to see them trying to shove Romney down our throats. In theory, the real unemployment rate of 25% ought to guarantee the GOP a victory. But when you look at the approved clown--er, I mean candidates, I can't help but think they really don't want to beat Obama.

Yeah, I edited it a couple minutes later. That was kind of special because there were three candidates, and Johnson isn't as known as Perot.

 

[acptulsa]

Yeah, I edited it a couple minutes later. That was kind of special because there were three candidates, and Johnson isn't as known as Perot.

That's all right. Romney isn't as strong--with either independents or Republican voters--as even GHW Bush was in '92. And he wasn't exactly a strong candidate.

 

[Shane Harris]

Yup...

...and in the process, move the football back half the distance to the goal. I will not support Obama. I will, however, view his inevitable re-election as a better outcome than supporting the GOP in any fashion; insofar as taking a long view. A second shot of Black Jesus will help us to turn up the volume on the alarm clock a little louder still.

Waking up the people, and illustrating their subservience to government, is the goal here at RPF - the nomination of Ron Paul is/was merely one facet of our movement, I believe. Regardless of 2012's outcome, I anticipate reading articles in the coming year along the lines of, "Why are these Ron Paul people still organizing, still blah-blah-blah-ing..."

This is far better for the long term than hitting snooze again.

 

[QuickZ06]

LOL at anyone who thinks Obama and Romney are not the same. It does not matter who is in change out of these two as they are bought and paid shells that will do anything for 'supposed power". They are puppets being controlled, it does not matter who you vote for they are both 100% evil.

 

[TheTexan]

Doesn't matter who you vote for you. Your vote won't be counted. As with everything else in this election, whether it be our candidate, our ideas, or our delegates, your vote will be swept aside and promptly discarded.

The government at all levels is corrupt and lawless. The president and the politicians commit heinous crimes against the constitution on a regular basis. So much so, that such behavior is considered normal, and accepted.

Up is down. Wrong is right. Unconstitutional is constitutional. Tyranny is freedom. War is peace. This country is so incredibly far gone it is beyond repair.

By voting, the only message that sends, is that you still believe in the "system." You still believe that the system works. You still believe that if only we can vote enough liberty people into the system, that we'll be able to vote our freedom back. The problem is, they barely even let us vote at all. Because it is a criminal organization. It is far, far too late to turn it around by working within that system. They have an iron grasp on it. Anything that even remotely threatens their grip, is dealt with efficiently and expediently.

Do not vote. Withdraw your consent. Make it clear to yourself, and anyone who will listen, that this system and these people are criminals and they have no rightful authority.

 

[Brett85]

I only said that I wanted Romney to win, not that I'm going to vote for him. I've stated that I'm voting for Chuck Baldwin of the Kansas Reform Party.

 

[pahs1994]

Ron Paul won't be on the ballot if he doesn't get the nomination.

No, obviously not Romney. but Gary Johnson. He's on the ballot. Or Virgil Goode. Or stay home. Maybe the Convention will give us Palin.

I haven't seen anybody say they'd vote for Romney, and a lot of people are getting ready to get somewhat enthused about GJ.

I am assuming you are from PA. I believe our lovely PA GOP has successfully got the LP and CP thrown off the ballot. Unless things have changed in the last few days....

 

[krazy kaju]

Writing in Ron Paul won't be a "stand" for anything. Your vote won't be counted.

You have two choices:

1. Romney - With the GOP in control of the House, Senate, and White House, we'll be able to pressure them to support some good legislation, like how we pressured every House Republican to vote for the Audit the Fed bill (which was consequently killed by the Senate Democrats). Also, 4-8 years of Romney will decrease the Establishment/moderate GOP's popularity to the point where a true rebel candidate, someone like a Rand Paul or Justin Amash, will be able to take the nomination. Lastly, we won't have any experienced candidates to field in 2016 either way. Ron Paul is probably out of the race - while all of our other potential future Presidential candidates won't have enough experience to be considered good picks till after 2016. If Ron Paul does decide to run in 2016, it would be good if he did so against Romney, just to show to the American populace that there are two wings of the Republican Party with a differing set of ideals. This would set the stage for a Rand Paul or Justin Amash to run in 2020.

2. Gary Johnson - If the vote Johnson gets is greater than the differential between the two major candidates, i.e. if Johnson gets 3% while either major party candidate loses by 1% or 2%, then that will send a signal to the politicians of the two major parties that there is a new subset of swing voters out there that they have to appeal to. It'll help encourage future candidates to make their platforms slightly more libertarian by supporting civil liberties and fiscal responsibility.