Are Truthers a liability?

[max]

I've refuted every 9/11 truth thing I've come across with my (admittedly) limited knowledge of physics, someone please point some worthwhile things to me?

911truthvirus.com a whole subpage on physics

 

[SeanEdwards]

See Sean, this is where you and the truthers completely fail. You have no idea what my personal beliefs are and you associate me with Alex Jones?

I apologize for making assumptions about you.

However, I stand by my assertion that 'calls for a new investigation' are a big waste of effort. There has been an 'official' investigation and it concluded exactly what could be expected of such an investigation.

The very idea of a 'new independent investigation' is a logical fallacy. It, by definition, could not be independent. Who would decide the people that would form this 'new independent investigation'? Such a formation can not possibly be anything but dependent. Well, I guess you could have a random drawing, sort of like forming a jury, and that might lead to a semi-independent panel, but such a panel would be unlikely to have the technical skills to conduct such an investigation.

 

[EvoPro]

admin, please move thread to hot topix.

 

[SeanEdwards]

It has nothing to do with Alex Jones. It has to do with the families that lost loved ones. If you can't see that you can't be helped. Bury your head in the sand.

Here's some more of that cult-follower mentality that turns people off.

"I'm so right, and if you don't believe me it's just because your head is in the sand."

No, I don't believe you because you haven't convinced me. The problem is yours, not mine.

 

[Mr. White]

That site is obnoxious. I looked at the part on Osama where it said he refuted his involvment, and that he was 'probably' killed. Yet no, video or recording was provided, and I saw no link to a transcript.

Looks like a bunch of propaganda to me. Got something better, without music and a bunch of uncited things?

 

[maggiebott]

I joined another Ron Paul forum since I read there that hot topics get buried. Its quite clear who the moles are after following this thread.

Question...what will you peeps be thinking the next time our government hits this country and kills more people? Will you be fooled again? Will you be crappin your pants? Or will you open your minds and see the enemy is standing over you!

 

[The Good Doctor]

But you won't even look at the evidence. That is what we are talking about.

Here's some more of that cult-follower mentality that turns people off.

"I'm so right, and if you don't believe me it's just because your head is in the sand."

No, I don't believe you because you haven't convinced me. The problem is yours, not mine.

 

[EvoPro]

What maggiebott?? Most of us think there should be another investigation, which is why we need to get Dr. Paul elected. I don't particularly think shouting 'inside job' will help him get elected.

 

[SeanEdwards]

I joined another Ron Paul forum since I read there that hot topics get buried. Its quite clear who the moles are after following this thread.

Question...what will you peeps be thinking the next time our government hits this country and kills more people? Will you be fooled again? Will you be crappin your pants? Or will you open your minds and see the enemy is standing over you!

Damn truthers are obnoxious self-righteous pricks. I'd rather get a visit from Jehova's Witnesses than these pompous holier than thou know-it-all truthers.

At least the bible thumpers, when confronted with an unbeliever, don't immediately accuse the unbeliever of being on Satan's payroll.

 

[max]

That site is obnoxious. I looked at the part on Osama where it said he refuted his involvment, and that he was 'probably' killed. Yet no, video or recording was provided, and I saw no link to a transcript.

Looks like a bunch of propaganda to me. Got something better, without music and a bunch of uncited things?

Got any answers for building 7 Einstein?

 

[SeanEdwards]

But you won't even look at the evidence. That is what we are talking about.

What evidence???

"Loose change"? I watched it. I wasn't convinced. I found it to be a steaming pile of unsubstantiated crap.

Show me some proof and I'll be on board. But don't you dare accuse me of being some paid mole, just because I didn't drink the kool-aid with you.

 

[AFTFNJ]

I don't have any particular opinion on your theories, but I do think you are acting like a nut with your self-righteous certainty. You sound like a true-believer cult follower, when we both know that you don't have any special inside connection to the 'truth'.

Dude SCIENCE DOES NOT CHANGE FOR ANYBODY! but it did for the government on 9/11. Google Architects & engineers for 911 truth. I see you have reverted back to name calling rather then researching the topic.

 

[AFTFNJ]

You need evidence ? Are you going to watch it?

What evidence???

"Loose change"? I watched it. I wasn't convinced. I found it to be a steaming pile of unsubstantiated crap.

Show me some proof and I'll be on board. But don't you dare accuse me of being some paid mole, just because I didn't drink the kool-aid with you.

Proof that follows the Scientific method

http://www.ae911truth.org/ -Architects & Engineers for 9/11 truth
Proof of Controlled Demolition 9/11 - Architect speaks out
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6883441047197474365 Part 1
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4995319675737766037 Part 2
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7686303663508827383 Part 3

 

[The Good Doctor]

I said before:

Follow the money in the stock market and you will find out who knew.

Show the Pentagon videos. Hundreds of cameras there.

There is so much evidence it would make your head spin.

The rest is laid out in a lot of other places. I won't go into it. 9/11 Scholars For Truth is probably the best source. But Alex Jones lays out verifiable information. He posts links shows the documents in his videos.

Anyway, I suppose you didn't do well on your resource papers in school either.

What evidence???

"Loose change"? I watched it. I wasn't convinced. I found it to be a steaming pile of unsubstantiated crap.

Show me some proof and I'll be on board. But don't you dare accuse me of being some paid mole, just because I didn't drink the kool-aid with you.

 

[The Good Doctor]

Dude, I never said you were a mole. Or even had one on your face for that matter. Sheesh!

What evidence???

"Loose change"? I watched it. I wasn't convinced. I found it to be a steaming pile of unsubstantiated crap.

Show me some proof and I'll be on board. But don't you dare accuse me of being some paid mole, just because I didn't drink the kool-aid with you.

 

[RevolutionSD]

What evidence???

"Loose change"? I watched it. I wasn't convinced. I found it to be a steaming pile of unsubstantiated crap.

Show me some proof and I'll be on board. But don't you dare accuse me of being some paid mole, just because I didn't drink the kool-aid with you.

oooo! You watched Loose Change!
Do you want an award?

FYI, Loose Change is not the only documentary on 9/11.
I think most truthers would admit that Loose Change has it's flaws but also makes some solid points.

Check out 9/11 Press for Truth and tell me if you find anything not 100% truth in that movie. Read Griffin's Debunking 9/11 Debunking, and let's debate the facts!

 

[max]

What evidence???

"Loose change"? I watched it. I wasn't convinced. I found it to be a steaming pile of unsubstantiated crap.

Show me some proof and I'll be on board. But don't you dare accuse me of being some paid mole, just because I didn't drink the kool-aid with you.

Do I really have to prove gravity? I thought Issac Newton settled that centuries ago?

On 9/11, the upper 20 floors of the WTC FELL THROUGH the lower 80 at FREE FALL SPEED.

In other words, if u dropped a 20 story building from 1/4 mile up in the air...at the exact same moment that those 20 floors started falling through the lower 80...both pieces would arrive at the same time...

My physics is a bit hazy...but shouldnt the lower 80 floors of steel & concrete columns, steel trusses (bolded and welded to an outer steel frame) have offered slightly more resistance than empty air????

can u explain to me how pieces of steel frame weighing 2-3 tons blasted OUTWARDS at 100 + mph...lodging themsleves into skycrapers over 300 feet away???? Imagine a Minivan parked at home plate of a baseball field. Then visualize the van blasting outwards over the left field wakll for a home run!...Thats the type of force we saw on 9-11. What caused that??? "Pancaking"???,...LOL

You are a gravity denier! The titanic sank at 40 mph because water is denser than air. The top 20 floors of the WTC fell thru the rest at 120 mph. Why ZERO resistance from the lower 80????

 

[Mr. White]

Got any answers for building 7 Einstein?

I watched the PBS bit on the leaseholder and looked at the bit where the reported reported it collapsed before it did.

The leaseholder said he pulled the building, ie. had it demolished, due to fire damage. What does that have to do with the government

As far as the video behind the reporter? News agencies superimpose video behind people all the time. Easiest explanation is they showed video shot prior to the building coming down. What does this ahve to do with the government?

What else do you have?

 

[Ozwest]

When will you stop treating "Truthers as "Nutcases". Sounds "Kooky". Mmmmm........

 

[Jojo]

admin, please move thread to hot topix.

Haha, yeah, some truth might rub off on people visiting here!

What you could do is not click on this thread anymore, then you don't have to get upset, and just go hand out some Ron Paul flyers or something. That always makes me feel better!