Are Truthers a liability?

[SeanEdwards]

So what? I do want new investigations. Crap, I want a ton of investigations into a lot of things and I want our congress to enforce the damn law. I'm not giving up on that idealism just because our government is corrupt. I don't think you are either I just think your focus is different.

So why not support me in this? You don't have to agree with me to be happy to have me as an ally. You can still tell me to piss off and that I'm crazy. But you can fight side by side with me for what's right too.

It's my opinion that you, and others, would reject out of hand, any government sponsored investigation that did not support the conclusion you have already reached.

Therefore, it's a waste of time. I don't believe the government is ever going to release an investigation that indicates the kind of widespread corruption and involvement necessary for 9/11 to have been an 'inside job'. The only information that will come out of an 'official' investigation will be information that obscures any guilty involvement of the US government.

Ok? THE GOVERNMENT WILL NEVER RELEASE AN INVESTIGATION THAT SATISFIES ALEX JONES. EVER. Get over it.

If you want to 'prove' this theory of yours, you'll have to do it without the help of 'officials'. This should be freaking obvious to anyone.

So investigate all you like. Find some insider who wants to spill the beans. Go for it. But quit crying for the government to 'come clean', because that will never happen.

 

[RevolutionSD]

I don't have any particular opinion on your theories, but I do think you are acting like a nut with your self-righteous certainty. You sound like a true-believer cult follower, when we both know that you don't have any special inside connection to the 'truth'.

hard@work was not acting like a nut. Sean, your bias against those seeking the truth is getting in the way of you forming an objective opinion.
Study the issues and then get back to us. If you still buy the official story I don't have anything against you, because at least I know you're coming from an educated position and not just name-calling like "cult follower" and "nut".

 

[max]

I don't have any particular opinion on your theories, but I do think you are acting like a nut with your self-righteous certainty. You sound like a true-believer cult follower, when we both know that you don't have any special inside connection to the 'truth'.

Would you call Galileo "a nut" because he held steadfast to his theory WITH ABSOLUTE CERTAINTY...while eveyone else laughed at his ideas?

We 9/11 truthers are "self righteous" because..well..WE ARE RIGHT!

The "cult followers" are the people who blindly defend the Bin Laden fairy tale when evidence to the contrary is overwhelming

www.911truthvirus.com

 

[RevolutionSD]

It's my opinion that you, and others, would reject out of hand, any government sponsored investigation that did not support the conclusion you have already reached.

Therefore, it's a waste of time. I don't believe the government is ever going to release an investigation that indicates the kind of widespread corruption and involvement necessary for 9/11 to have been an 'inside job'. The only information that will come out of an 'official' investigation will be information that obscures any guilty involvement of the US government.

Ok? THE GOVERNMENT WILL NEVER RELEASE AN INVESTIGATION THAT SATISFIES ALEX JONES. EVER. Get over it.

If you want to 'prove' this theory of yours, you'll have to do it without the help of 'officials'. This should be freaking obvious to anyone.

So investigate all you like. Find some insider who wants to spill the beans. Go for it. But quit crying for the government to 'come clean', because that will never happen.

You're not getting it.

Nobody thinks the government is going to give us a fair investigation. That's our problem with the first one- it was filled with Bush cronies and congressional hacks! The one commonality among truthers is that we're looking for an independent investigation, not the government investigating itself again.

 

[SeanEdwards]

Would you call Galileo "a nut" because he held steadfast to his theory WITH ABSOLUTE CERTAINTY...while eveyone else laughed at his ideas?

We 9/11 truthers are "self righteous" because..well..WE ARE RIGHT!

www.911truthvirus.com

You ain't Galileo.

 

[max]

You ain't Galileo bitch.

maybe not...but you are EXACTLY like the the vatican thugs who sought to silence him

 

[DjLoTi]

dude, can we just get over this already? I don't feel like seeing this post pop up 2 weeks from now with the same people arguing the same thing

 

[WannaBfree]

Jesse Benton on Alex Jones (last repeat)

Ron Paul campaign spokesman Jesse Benton was on Alex Jones yesterday. The show is streaming for the final time and Jesse Benton will be on very shortly if anyone is interested.

www.prisonplanet.com
click 'listen live' on the left side

www.infowars.com
click 'listen now' link on top of the page

 

[max]

There no need for an investigation..we know the culprits..

911truthvirus.com

 

[cjhowe]

Yeah but the Gulf of Tonkin event was contrived. It was an event that didn't happen. It was said to have happened by those that meant to capitalize on the event.

How is that any different then letting Pearl Harbor happen to get involved in WWII.

The Truthers want the truth. Even if someone knew on 9/11 and let it happen like Cheney telling the military to stand down, that is responisibility.

So, in essence allowing the event to happen is committing the event.

There was a Gulf of Tonkin incident. Who started it and the exact details appear to be murky. Regardless of who started it, those that wanted us further in the war capitalized on it.

 

[SeanEdwards]

maybe not...but you are EXACTLY like the the vatican thugs who sought to silence him

I'm not silencing anybody. I'm pointing out the obvious fact that calls for a 'new investigation' are a waste of time. You want to investigate? Then investigate.

You are sitting there crying for 'authorities' to come along and validate YOUR worldview. You want to validate your worldview, then do it. Galileo didn't protest outside the vatican with a sign saying "I want a new investigation of planetary motion!" he went out on his own and proved his worldview with concrete evidence.

 

[max]

I'm not silencing anybody, dork. I'm pointing out the obvious fact that calls for a 'new investigation' are a waste of time. You want to investigate? Then investigate.

You are sitting there crying for 'authorities' to come along and validate YOUR worldview. You want to validate your worldview, then do it. Galileo didn't protest outside the vatican with a sign saying "I want a new investigation of planetary motion!" he went out on his own and proved his worldview with concrete evidence.

9/11 truth has already been proven. When we say we want a new investigation, what we really mean is we want these bastards tried and hanged for treason.

will this come about from the existing government/media complex?,,,not unless there is a mass uprising demanding it.

is that likely to happen?..NO..

But I'd rather fight and lose than just submit...it's a matter of principle

 

[SeanEdwards]

9/11 truth has already been proven.

The only thing that's been proved is that this nation is finally reaping the rewards of generations of squelching critical thought.

 

[Mr. White]

In terms of attracting mainstream voters? the truthers are a big liability. There presence as voters nullifies some of that however.

 

[hard@work]

It's my opinion that you, and others, would reject out of hand, any government sponsored investigation that did not support the conclusion you have already reached.

Therefore, it's a waste of time. I don't believe the government is ever going to release an investigation that indicates the kind of widespread corruption and involvement necessary for 9/11 to have been an 'inside job'. The only information that will come out of an 'official' investigation will be information that obscures any guilty involvement of the US government.

Ok? THE GOVERNMENT WILL NEVER RELEASE AN INVESTIGATION THAT SATISFIES ALEX JONES. EVER. Get over it.

If you want to 'prove' this theory of yours, you'll have to do it without the help of 'officials'. This should be freaking obvious to anyone.

So investigate all you like. Find some insider who wants to spill the beans. Go for it. But quit crying for the government to 'come clean', because that will never happen.

See Sean, this is where you and the truthers completely fail. You have no idea what my personal beliefs are and you associate me with Alex Jones? Missing my point entirely in the process - deductive reasoning FTL man. I preach unity to you guys and you do everything in your power to scream division.

Get over it dude, these are good people here whether or not you disagree. And if you're as blind as electric church then we're in trouble. At least you have some cognitive resources available... but how long until you call me a government agent as well?!?

"Truthers" are: ONLY A LIABILITY TO US IF WE DO NOT EMBRACE THEM AND THANK THEM FOR THE VIGILANCE WHILE RESPECTFULLY DISAGREEING WITH THEM. WE ARE ONLY A LIABILITY FOR OURSELVES WHEN ANY OF US DO OTHERWISE ON EITHER SIDE OF DEBATE.

This is the realm of the real disinfo agent that they like to preach at. The one that quietly sits by scanning the forums plugging small commentary and discussion in the direction of division and subversion. The answer to the tin foil hat question should be a resounding and unifying:

So what? God Bless America.

 

[The Good Doctor]

It has nothing to do with Alex Jones. It has to do with the families that lost loved ones. If you can't see that you can't be helped. Bury your head in the sand.

It's my opinion that you, and others, would reject out of hand, any government sponsored investigation that did not support the conclusion you have already reached.

Therefore, it's a waste of time. I don't believe the government is ever going to release an investigation that indicates the kind of widespread corruption and involvement necessary for 9/11 to have been an 'inside job'. The only information that will come out of an 'official' investigation will be information that obscures any guilty involvement of the US government.

Ok? THE GOVERNMENT WILL NEVER RELEASE AN INVESTIGATION THAT SATISFIES ALEX JONES. EVER. Get over it.

If you want to 'prove' this theory of yours, you'll have to do it without the help of 'officials'. This should be freaking obvious to anyone.

So investigate all you like. Find some insider who wants to spill the beans. Go for it. But quit crying for the government to 'come clean', because that will never happen.

 

[The Good Doctor]

Queue the Ghandi quote please.

You ain't Galileo.

 

[The Good Doctor]

Which is my point. But "it can't happen here" - Frank Zappa

There was a Gulf of Tonkin incident. Who started it and the exact details appear to be murky. Regardless of who started it, those that wanted us further in the war capitalized on it.

 

[Mr. White]

I've refuted every 9/11 truth thing I've come across with my (admittedly) limited knowledge of physics, someone please point some worthwhile things to me?

 

[The Good Doctor]

But they are hiding the truth.

Follow the money in the stock market. It is trackable.

Show the video from the Pentagon.

What do they have to lose? POWER!

I'm not silencing anybody. I'm pointing out the obvious fact that calls for a 'new investigation' are a waste of time. You want to investigate? Then investigate.

You are sitting there crying for 'authorities' to come along and validate YOUR worldview. You want to validate your worldview, then do it. Galileo didn't protest outside the vatican with a sign saying "I want a new investigation of planetary motion!" he went out on his own and proved his worldview with concrete evidence.