Appealing to Female Voters--Ron's Awesome accomplishments!

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Hello, Hello out there in testosterone land.

Ron Paul is Ron's best secret weapon to get the female vote!

First ---Keep it simple stupid---

A Viet Nam veteran, who, as a flight surgeon, served our country saving the lives of our wounded American boys;
an obstetrician who delivered over 4000 babies during his career;
and a loving father and grandfather who over the course of the past 26 or so years has served America honestly, honorably and decently as a US Representative!!

It doesn't get any better than that.

This isn't rocket science,
I can't believe how much you men are over-complicating, over-thinking, and overanalyzing this, then
upon failing to 'get it', just giving up.

And I cannot for the life of me understand why the campaign is not using these wonderful, fascinating, and admirable traits and facts about Ron's life work to grab the attention of the ladies,
i.e., perhaps tossed out as a warm note during a debate and/or interview.

A capsule on campaign literature.

Most importantly whenever you are calling or canvassing a mom or grandmom!

Hello---these are wonderful things about Ron.
Once you know them an EXTRAORDINARY, irrefutable level of TRUST and decency is established and confirmed in the eyes of many women voters.

Trust is a HUGE thing.

Also, let's face it: Ron is DRY!
You have got to pique the interest of conservative female voters in order to grab them long enough to let Ron's message do the rest.

Men have sports stats/trivia, golf, action stuff etc. that serve as great icebreakers, help establish bonds, etc.
Its pretty boring but for some reason, it works for them, and nobody really.gives it much thought.

Well the ladies have certain things that just literally grab them, and thats just the way it is.

Shame on the campaign for not emphasizing in a simple, amazing intro to the essence of Ron these important things.
 
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You know apparently today an article at the DP emphasized that Ron has a bit of a struggle with getting these older conservative ladies votes.
Women live longeer than men so they make up a good part of that age group.

We NEED those votes.

Thus the campaign had best spend a bit more effort and resources finding out about and providing the question to the ageless question what do women want.

We ignore this at our peril. You can bet that the competition has been focus grouping this to death, and twaeking as they go.

Remember the Al Gore 'color pallette' dilemna, countless focus groups, research, refinement, lol.
 
Great post! The key is peeling back the veneer of Paul and showing the beauty of his character.

Some more ideas for ads:

Education choices- the avg woman does not homeschool so that's not the angle we're looking at- explaining how getting rid of the dept of ed would benefit children is infinitely more helpful than statements about getting rid of it

Health insurance- ours went up after Obamacare passed. A lot. This impacts budgets and leaves people w/out insurance. Addressing this in plainspeak would be a good idea.

Raising kids in a surveillance state and overreactions, lack of common sense when applying the laws and how that has affected kids. If things don't change I feel so sorry for the generation growing up now. :(

The drug war can very well be a female issue if presented by the compassionate angle. Show the kids who don't have dads because they're in prison. The women left to raise kids by themselves. The violence kids face in their communities.

Heartstrings, heartstrings, heartstrings. When policies are shown to harm and that is in your face (it isn't now because of msm's lack of real journalism) then it's easier to garner female support.

"What about the children" motivates women. We need to explore and explain, in a heartfelt way, how Paul's policies are best for our children.
 
If you want to get the older conservative women's votes, he needs only bring out Carol. My mom liked Barbara Bush more than the Georges. They got her vote mainly because she thought Barbara was a nice lady.
 
In regards to younger women. Well, I'm 35 and 90% of the women I know between 25-40 are rather liberal or apathetic. I only know a small smattering of conservative female peers. Tough to find.
 
On another thread on this topic, someone posted that the campaign should get a couple of women on staff working the press interviews, too. This is a wonderful idea.
 
Also get Carol out there a little more, subtly point out that it is his first and only marriage and they've been together for 50+ years.
 
I am a woman who is a long time supporter of Ron Paul and an even longer time supporter of individual liberty and individual responsibility.

I have to tell you that as someone with a philosophy based upon the principle that each person is an individual and should be treated as such, this group think as it relates to females dismays me.

I don't think the message needs to change to be more touchy-feely to reach women. That's just buying into stereotypes, and frankly, I think it demeans both women and the message.

The most important thing is getting the message across to everyone in a clear, consistent way. The biggest reason that those who haven't come around to a libertarian mindset is because they have not fully examined their views/life philosophy to reveal the contradictions. People need to understand that the same principle that allows for freedom in one area also allows for freedom in other areas.

For example, I once was able to convince a very liberal, anti-gun friend of mine the error in his thinking when I walked him through the contradiction in his beliefs. He believed that people should be able to smoke pot or do other drugs because after all they are adults and not hurting anyone else. His belief was that this is how freedom is defined. Once he realized that the same is true for the vast majority of people using firearms - ie they are not hurting anyone so why should the government prevent them. (I left aside a discussion on the true meaning of the 2nd amendment because I felt this would be a more convincing argument for this person.)

Aside from that, I think it does make sense to "sell" the message by demonstrating the Value to the voter/citizen. I think libertarians sometimes don't do this well enough. All the other politicians are making promises of what people are going to get. Ron Paul (and other libertarians) come across as what they're going to take away. I think it needs to be clearly communicated what the VALUE of freedom and individual rights is to the average american. We need to paint a picture of what that looks like. Focus on the positive outcomes of voting for someone who advocates freedom, peace and prosperity. Something like:

-- Imagine a 20% increase in your take home pay because of reduced taxes
-- Imagine having a direct impact on the quality of your child's education and what your child learns in school because the schools are controlled locally without the interference of the Dept of Education
-- Imagine everyone who wants to work being able to find a job because the economy is on a favorable footing again because the federal debt is paid off due to responsible management of the budget.
-- Imagine not having to loose our service men and women in foreign wars because we have a calm, experienced, unflappable President who sees the value in diplomacy.
-- Imagine that America is once again the beacon for the world of not only freedom, but of enlightened, humane, wise leadership around the world where we lead by setting a good example and extending our friendship abroad to other countries through trade and travel.
-- etc.
 
Well, they are out there, and statistically this number can make a significant difference.

Look, we NEED these votes.

This is going to be a hard long-fought battle.

Why discount a significant subset of potential voters, just because "Well we don't really get them"

Hello.

I'm sure a great deal of campaign management/supporters are hard chargin' young male Paulites who are all macho and independant and all, but I feel I must say that for liberty's cause,
good god guys, just go out of your box and think about what appeals to your mom, I mean really think about it and apply it to your message about Ron.

So many ladies I talk to have absolutely no idea that Ron was an obstetricain who delivered over 4000 babies; saved the lives of wounded American boys as a flight surgeon over in Viet Nam, and has served his country honorably and in uncorruptable fashion over the past 26 or so years!

It is inconceivable that this is not emphasized more by the official campaign planners.
 
A Viet Nam veteran, who, as a flight surgeon, served our country saving the lives of our wounded American boys;

Careful. I think you can say a vet during the Vietnam War but not a "Vietnam veteran". I do not know the details of the service ("saving the lives of our wounded American boys").

http://www.pabook.libraries.psu.edu/palitmap/bios/Paul__Ronald.html

From a random web comment:

Dr. Paul received a draft letter from the army and was told he could either enter the army as a private or volunteer and be an officer (flight surgeon). He chose the latter and volunteered with the air force.

Ron's situation is interesting. The army could have made him an officer if they wanted another surgeon. The clear intent was to get him into the air force. In the eyes of the law, he "volunteered". By any plain speaking person, he was drafted. If Ron Paul were to talk about choosing/electing/volunteering to serve in the armed forces, it would be less accurate. Not only did Ron Paul serve, he has not distorted his record like Newt Romney. Deferments weren't hard to get for the clever (Newt) or the rich (Mittens).
 
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I agree HF. We absolutely need to market to this voting segment. If what we've been doing was effective in capturing those votes we'd have a lot more female supporters. Same w/the boomers. I mentioned in another thread that I'd be happy to help make "mom oriented" youtubes but I have a slower computer and haven't done that before so I'd love some input on what software I should download and any tips in making the vids anyone can offer.
 
Well dgnybell, I disagree that appealing to a woman's sensibilities 'demeans' a woman.

We have been constantly exhorted and remonstrated on this forum to step up and appeal to older conservative voters.

They DON'T need us, we need their support.

I don't really think these older conservative women really care and might even find it a bit silly that some of their gender might want to shovel their own snow, open their own doors, or bring home their own bacon, etc.
What is important to them is what works for them, in their own life experiences and apparently, that they have brought forth a fine generation of freedom loving Paul supporters, then whatever they were doing DID work,
far be it for us to mock or talk down to them.

Interestingly, as I was reminded on a similar thread several days ago, it was exactly this thing, that women loved the fact that Ron was an obstetrician and had delivered so many babies, was a flight surgeon in Viet Nam, etc. was exactly what helped carry him long ago in his congressional district.

So why is the wheel being reinvented here?
 
Absolutely agree, Ron needs more women on the staff, for interviews, arranging press that appeals to women voters, speaking to the press about Ron, designing literature, advertisements, and videos that appeal to women voters.

How do we go about getting this ball rolling and fast at campaign HQ particularly before SC.

In South Carolina this is going to be HUGE.

Ron's essence is SO absolutely, hugely, and naturally appealing to these wonderful Steel Magnolias.

We MUST make some changes at campaign staff to get in some people that will appeal to the fairer sex in South Carolina.
 
The drug war can very well be a female issue if presented by the compassionate angle. Show the kids who don't have dads because they're in prison. The women left to raise kids by themselves. The violence kids face in their communities.



i cant believe im posting this, but i did an interview after an event...hes a local radio show host in my area. it was my first ever interview in my life so i was quite nervous, froze, had a loss of thought....but i did speak about the drug war and the effects on family and that the money could be better spent on rehab programs/education rather than punishing people who have a disease (addiction). im a mother, wife, sister, and daughter...my brother fought in the war in Iraq and he is STILL in Iraq. I support Dr. Paul.
 
Cinderella, that was awesome! I didn't detect any nervousness at all. You spoke with confidence and the point you brought up about the drug war was excellent. You should make more videos. With you being a nurse, I think your argument holds even more weight and people would be more willing to listen and understand.

By the way, loved your facial expression when he revealed he was a Rick Santorum supporter..hilarious.
 
Economics in short hand and how it affects the family finances...

How broadening the government at the federal level removes the human factor to see the needs of the individual family and how the policies will then hurt them.
 
Haha thanks everyone! It really is an issue I hold that is very close to my heart...this war on drugs destroys families just as Dr. Paul says...women are ripped away from their children to be raised by the state while mom sits in jail for a non violent drug offense...nobody grows up dreaming to be a drug addict...many doctors and researchers have stated addiction IS A DISEASE...it kills more people a year than cancer...it is a lifelong disease...we would never think of jailing someone because they have cancer, yet we punish people for being addicts.

Please excuse any typos...I'm on my phone :)
 
Haha thanks everyone! It really is an issue I hold that is very close to my heart...this war on drugs destroys families just as Dr. Paul says...women are ripped away from their children to be raised by the state while mom sits in jail for a non violent drug offense...nobody grows up dreaming to be a drug addict...many doctors and researchers have stated addiction IS A DISEASE...it kills more people a year than cancer...it is a lifelong disease...we would never think of jailing someone because they have cancer, yet we punish people for being addicts.

Please excuse any typos...I'm on my phone :)

exactly!
 
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