AP Fox says Paul out!

[Menthol Patch]

How about holding a debate with Bill Richardson, the candidate for the Democratic nomination? He will probably finish fourth in Iowa. The debate would get publicity from being the first Republican-Democratic debate before the nominees of each party were determined and perhaps overshadow the Fox Forum.

Like Ron, Richardson calls for an immediate withdrawal of troops from Iraq, but is is a typical tax and spend Democrat on other issues. So Ron could show his true Republican colors by arguing against Democratic overspending and overtaxation. Richardson makes a good case for immediate withdrawal, even though he pushed for the war in 2003.

This is just a suggestion; the main thing I would like to see is a big PR event that would draw attention to Fox's censorship and give Ron a chance to get his message out. A Democratic-Republican debate like this might be one way. Anybody have any other suggestions?

No event we could organize would draw nearly as much media attention as the Fox News Forum. Yeah, we could have a rally and have our own supporters there and it might get minimal coverage by the mainstream media. But our goal is to spread Ron Paul's message far and wide. The best way to do that is to get Ron Paul in the HOUR and a HALF prime time Fox News Forum!

 

[Midnight77]

Well, as far as FOX goes ... it's ON!!!

We need to arrange a mass organized advertising boycott.

 

[Menthol Patch]

Keep those contacts flowing!

# Bill O'Reilly, O'Reilly Factor Host : Phone: 212-301-3320; Email:
[email protected]
# Brian Knoblock, International Editor : Phone: 212-301-5486; Email:
[email protected]
# Brit Hume, Managing Editor : Phone: 202-824-6470; Fax: 202-824-6426
# David Asman, Fox News Host : Phone: 212-301-3944; Email:
[email protected]
# Ian Rae, Exec. VP News : Phone: 212-301-8552; Email: [email protected]
# Jane Skinner, News Anchor : Phone: 212-301-5023; Email:
[email protected]
# John Moody, Sen VP News : Phone: 212-301-8560; Email: [email protected]
# Justin Schmidt, Chicago Bureau Chief : Phone: 312-494-0428; Fax: 312-494-0445
# Kathy Ardleigh, Sen. Politics Producer : Phone: 212-301-3186; Email:
[email protected]
# Ken LaCorte, Los Angeles Bureau Chief : Phone: 310-571-2000; Fax: 310-571-2009
# Kim Schiller Hume, Wash DC Bureau Chief : Phone: 202-824-6389; Fax:
202-824-6426
# Shepard Smith, Fox Report Host : Phone: 212-301-3711; Email:
[email protected]
# Thom Bird, Fox News Sen. Producer : Phone: 212-301-3250; Email:
[email protected]
# Todd Ciganek, National News Editor : Phone: 212-301-3352; Email:
[email protected]

 

[stevedasbach]

No shit huh. This is probably the forum that everyone in Iowa waits to see before they make their decision on who they will vote for during the primary. The "Cliff's Notes" of candidate information.

What a bunch of shit.

This forum is after Iowa.

The debate the day before that includes Paul is the one people probably wait for. It's broadcast on WMUR, which is the major source for broadcast TV news in NH.

 

[noztnac]

They said they are keeping "low polling" candidates out. There are many problems with that argument. First, who determines which polls are valid. I could easily make the argument that Ron Paul polls the highest of all candidates. Check out the AOL poll for instance. Second, Ron Paul outpolls several of the candidates who have been invited in specific states.

Polls should not influence an election. Fox is allowing the barometer to change the weather when it's supposed to measure it.

The FEC needs to seriously look into a foreign owned network rigging our elections. It is a known fact that Rupert Murdoch is backing Hillary Clinton. Then he puts uneducated idiots in positions of power in his news network and attempts to steer Republicans into nominating candidates who can't beat her in a general election. 70% of Americans oppose the war in Iraq. Fox news is attempting to knock off the only anti-war Republican in an effort to insure Hillary's election.

BULLSHIT!!!! We need to make a stand right here and now. Contact the FEC. Contact Fox advertisers. Contact your congressman, senator, etc.

This is WAR!

 

[jaybone]

Paul, Hunter, Keyes, Kucinich, Gravel, Dodd , Biden LOL

I like that!
it would certainly raise some eyebrows.
People who want Ron dont care anymore about parties, they just want TRUTH.

I would love to see this debate.

 

[ShowMeLiberty]

is this the fox bus?

The network said it had limited space in its studio — a souped-up bus — and that it invited candidates who had received double-digit support in recent polls.

ROFLMAO!

 

[Charles Wilson]

They said they are keeping "low polling" candidates out. There are many problems with that argument. First, who determines which polls are valid. I could easily make the argument that Ron Paul polls the highest of all candidates. Check out the AOL poll for instance. Second, Ron Paul outpolls several of the candidates who have been invited in specific states.

Polls should not influence an election. Fox is allowing the barometer to change the weather when it's supposed to measure it.

The FEC needs to seriously look into a foreign owned network rigging our elections. It is a known fact that Rupert Murdoch is backing Hillary Clinton. Then he puts uneducated idiots in positions of power in his news network and attempts to steer Republicans into nominating candidates who can't beat her in a general election. 70% of Americans oppose the war in Iraq. Fox news is attempting to knock off the only anti-war Republican in an effort to insure Hillary's election.

BULLSHIT!!!! We need to make a stand right here and now. Contact the FEC. Contact Fox advertisers. Contact your congressman, senator, etc.

This is WAR!

I agree, the Elite puppet masters want Hillary Clinton but if she should lose they will still get one of the other top tier puppets they can manipulate unless we can out smart them and get Ron Paul elected.

If Fox network will not agree to Ron Paul attending the forum then the forum should be cancelled. Fergus Cullen, NH GOP Chairman, should call off the event immediately. No news outlet should be allowed to dictate who can attend a debate and/or forum. The public has every right to hear what each and every candidate has to say. All of the candidates have met the requirements to officially run for the nomination. The sheer audacity of the Fox network to try and hijack our political system is unbelieveable. The news media should report the news, not make the news. It is time for the FCC and FEC to rein them in.

I suggest that everyone supporting Ron Paul email Fergus Cullen and urge him to cancel the forum.

 

[Eponym_mi]

212-301-3300 is the Breaking News desk. Someone answered but didn't want to respond to questions...told me he is required to pass me to the viewer comments voicemail box. So, the word is out to stonewall.

 

[matthylland]

nevermind....

The war is on!

 

[mojohnk2000]

Send faxes

I posted this rant from attorney Ed Steele earlier, but no one noticed, so I'll seed it around...

So you think you have received lots of emails protesting your exclusion of Ron Paul from the televised Fox News pre-NH Presidential Primary Forum set for Jan 6 on the campus of St. Anselm College? You haven't even begun to see email.

Nor have you seen the power of the Internet when turned into a boycott, quite aside from the numerous issues of Federal Election law media access violations on your parts.

All Dr. Paul ever has sought is fair play - a level playing field. Yet you insist upon rigging the game.

Ron Paul is the only Presidential candidate in the past century who has been hoisted up spontaneously by the people of America and proclaimed to be our champion, time and again, by being first in fund raising, first in straw polls, first in telephone polls, first in tv polls and first in on-line polls.

Yet, he is the very man whom you deem not important enough to include in the final pre-election New Hampshire debate!!!

Are you guys out of your minds? You don't really think we are going to let you get away with this, do you?

So much for "Live Free or Die." Turn in your license plates, you hypocrites!

Of course, by now we all just laugh out loud when we hear "Fair and balanced," or "We report, you decide," from the dark forces at the Faux News Channel. In fact, it has gotten so bad that, if I am unsure how to feel about an issue, all I need do is tune in to the Faux News Channel and then adopt the opposite of whatever the evil emperor's minions are pushing.

I'm taking the liberty of bccing this to almost 20,000 of my closest friends throughout America. You don't mind, do you? I'm sure that many of them will want to share with you, too.

Edgar J. Steele

He has lots more info on this situation at his website:

http://www.conspiracypenpal.com/

Let them deal with the paper....

 

[mojohnk2000]

Is this a violation of FCC rules? Do we have a lawyer out there? Cable or not they are still in the public trust. Yes we own the band width on cable and satellite.

 

[Kingfisher]

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December 31, 2007
The Establishment Unveiled
Posted by Butler Shaffer at December 31, 2007 06:13 PM

Why is anyone surprised that the upcoming "debate" in New Hampshire - co-sponsored by the GOP and Fox News - would exclude Ron Paul? Such a decision only adds evidence for the proposition that the major political parties and mainstream media are a unitary system employed by the corporate-state establishment to maintain its authority over the nation. Their function is to generate support for an ever-increasing array of "problems" to be addressed by ever-expansive state powers; their role is not to question the arrangement. In furtherance of this singleness of purpose, political parties have embraced the virtue of "bipartisanship," while the media boast of their "responsible" forms of journalism.

Boobus Americanus could be counted upon to reject the inclusion of so-called "third parties" into political debates - ignoring the fact that the Republican Party, historically, was the most successful of third party offerings. Thus were the Libertarian Party, the Green Party, the Socialist Party, etc., kept in the wings; their alternative policies and philosophies marginalized. Tweedledum and Tweedledummer were the only voices allowed to be heard in a supposedly "democratic" system.

But how do the practitioners of the unitary mindset deal with a member of one of the major political parties? The quadrennial candidacy of Harold Stassen could be tolerated for much the same reason as comedian Pat Paulsen's "run" for the presidency: a welcome form of comic relief. But Ron Paul's candidacy is of serious proportions. His is a campaign directed to principled minds that value peace, liberty, and reason; the kinds of people the political establishment does not want to see energized. Even in the debates in which he has been allowed to appear, his presence is visually marginalized by keeping him at the far end of the stage.

And, so, use Ron Paul's exclusion not as an opportunity to complain about "unfairness," but as an example of what all of us are up against. Imagine that the Soviet Union was conducting an election for president, and that the Communist Party's Central Committee was co-sponsoring with Soviet-owned television a "debate" among the candidates. Imagine, further, that Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn had declared himself a candidate. Do you think he would have been allowed to participate in the debate?

 

[matthylland]

This is no different than communism's news channel of China!

 

[peacemonger]

Paul, Hunter, Keyes, Kucinich, Gravel, Dodd , Biden LOL

Call it an "Independence Debate" so it will appeal to the 40% independent voters. This could be a good strategy. The 25 % of republican voters can watch Fox if they want to. The 35% Democrat voters can watch what ever they want (blah, blah, blah).

I'll bet a no-holds-barred heated debate from the 2nd tier candidates from both parties would get way more viewers than Fox. Somebody should contact the local broadcasters to see if there is a workable schedule for such an event. This would get excellent ratings.

 

[peacemonger]

Is this a violation of FCC rules? Do we have a lawyer out there? Cable or not they are still in the public trust. Yes we own the band width on cable and satellite.

The FCC already weighed in on this. There is no violation. It may be unfair, but the FCC said it was ok. Look for the posts from earlier today.

 

[mosquitobite]

Call it an "Independence Debate" so it will appeal to the 40% independent voters. This could be a good strategy. The 25 % of republican voters can watch Fox if they want to. The 35% Democrat voters can watch what ever they want (blah, blah, blah).

I'll bet a no-holds-barred heated debate from the 2nd tier candidates from both parties would get way more viewers than Fox. Somebody should contact the local broadcasters to see if there is a workable schedule for such an event. This would get excellent ratings.

Agreed. An "independent" debate would draw the independents, and are Democrats having a forum at the same time? If not, this could be an alternative means, IF we have a station willing to air it.

 

[Menthol Patch]

Agreed. An "independent" debate would draw the independents, and are Democrats having a forum at the same time? If not, this could be an alternative means, IF we have a station willing to air it.

An independent debate would not get one tenth the media attention of the Fox News Forum or any other regular debate sponsored by the mainstream media!

 

[ghemminger]

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/12/31/arts/TV-Debate-Limits.php

 

[Menthol Patch]

We CANNOT let Fox News get away with this!