Anyone voting for McCain?

[Mach]

I not into the whole entertainment thing but I do agree with Matt Damon and his 4000 year question to Palin.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1c2BQ1WZl3w

 

[lasenorita]

I do agree with Matt Damon and his 4000 year question to Palin.

It was a practical joke. See Fake Governor Sarah Palin Quotes. I LOLed when I first read the claims -- they were that ridiculous.

 

[libertarian4321]

Is there anyone sticking to Republican ticket and voting for McCain?

I am unsure of what way to go. My dad sent me this message, comments?... (hes trying to get me to vote mccain)

"Once McCain is in there ,the market/economy will improve and the housing will start to recover. "Sammys" friends all have husbands on Wall St. and they are scared to death of Obama getting in. If he happens to win, everyone will dump investments subject to short term capital gains taxes, which he will at least double. If you saw his interview w/O'Rieley he told him on the air he will raise them to 30%-35%. O'reilly flipped and told him he'll be pulling his money out of stocks and into bonds and so will every other investor. He says at a 10% capitol gains tax the stocks are worth the risk. At 30% no way!By the way home builder stocks are up about 33% since July. The institutional investors have been buying them up, driving up the price. So apparently they think this is the bottom, or close enough so that they are worried about missing it."

This is utter nonsense that the Republicans trot out every time they are behind- they said the same thing before Clinton got elected- they said "vote for Clinton and the stock market will tank!" I fell for it then, I won't fall for it again (of course, the stock market shot to the moon when Clinton was in office). Historically, the market has done better under Democrats than Republicans.

BTW, people will still invest in stocks if they are taxed as ordinary income- it wasn't all that many years ago that they were taxed at the same rates Obama is proposing- it didn't stop people from investing in the market because 1) the stock market is still the best long term game in town and 2) this will make stock gains equal to over investments for tax purposes- why would people "avoid" a 35% rate on stocks and instead put in into a savings account (at the same tax rate).

Bottom line: Your dad is Bull Shitting you.

I won't vote for McCain because I think he's crazy enough to start more pointless wars, up to and including war with Russia, and I KNOW Palin is crazy enough to do it.

If you don't like any of the third party candidates, you'd be better off NOT VOTING than voting for evil (McCain/Palin). Even if you believe they are the "lesser evil", they are still evil.

 

[anaconda]

Oh for God's sake grow a spine and vote 3rd Party.

 

[DAFTEK]

oh for god's sake grow a spine and vote 3rd party..

10q

 

[moostraks]

not voting for either one, though I honestly believe that McCain is going to win this election; I've thought that since the day we found out who both of the nominees would be.

+1

 

[moostraks]

Probably wise. You'd think that they, along with the Buddhists, would be the most anti-war individuals. But then again, I guess it wouldn't be as big as it is today without all the warmongering/crusades.

Shame.

Christians have been taken down the path again by an extremist mentality that uses the cohesion of religious beliefs to further a political agenda. I am more Anabaptist/Quaker in theology. I am on some lists with them and they(Anabaptists which is your Mennonites and Amish) do not as a group believe in voting. So you are not getting an equal representation on the Christians because of the non-resistance movements hesistance to engage in politics....

FWIW I am a thorn in their side trying to motivatate them as to how bad things can get if they sit idly by while the warmongers misrepresent Christians and Christian values.

 

[Nic4Truth]

oh for god's sake grow a spine and vote 3rd party..
10q

Thanks for telling me what to do. However, I happen to already be planning to vote 3rd party. I will vote for whom ever i choose to thank you very much and dont need to justify my vote to anyone. My dad, you, RP, MSM, my husband, -- no one is going to "tell" me who to vote for, and Ron paul wouldn't condone that and you know it. Its not in his beliefs to tell you exactly how to live your life! I think that is why he wont back any specific candidate. He believes in freedom of choice. While Im not going to vote just b/c MSM paints a pretty picture, Im not going to just vote 3rd party either until ive done my homework. that is why im here.....

Is there something wrong with coming here and equipping myself with something more then what i can gain from watching MSMs lies and contradictions and utter bull.....? Don't you think more people should do similarly rather than, say, vote for Bush just b/c daddy says so....?

As well, I am trying to bring even more along with me once I have the equipment and info necessary. Is there something wrong with that? Then my husband, family and others will be properly informed from a well researched background, rather then the same ol same ol. I happen to have convinced many a family member to vote for RP in the primaries. And let me tell you- it was no easy feat. I am growing a spine, but i want others to grow one along with me.

 

[LittleLightShining]

Is there anyone sticking to Republican ticket and voting for McCain?

I am unsure of what way to go. My dad sent me this message, comments?... (hes trying to get me to vote mccain)

"Once McCain is in there ,the market/economy will improve and the housing will start to recover. "Sammys" friends all have husbands on Wall St. and they are scared to death of Obama getting in. If he happens to win, everyone will dump investments subject to short term capital gains taxes, which he will at least double. If you saw his interview w/O'Rieley he told him on the air he will raise them to 30%-35%. O'reilly flipped and told him he'll be pulling his money out of stocks and into bonds and so will every other investor. He says at a 10% capitol gains tax the stocks are worth the risk. At 30% no way!By the way home builder stocks are up about 33% since July. The institutional investors have been buying them up, driving up the price. So apparently they think this is the bottom, or close enough so that they are worried about missing it."

Ummmm.. no.

 

[amy31416]

Christians have been taken down the path again by an extremist mentality that uses the cohesion of religious beliefs to further a political agenda. I am more Anabaptist/Quaker in theology. I am on some lists with them and they(Anabaptists which is your Mennonites and Amish) do not as a group believe in voting. So you are not getting an equal representation on the Christians because of the non-resistance movements hesistance to engage in politics....

FWIW I am a thorn in their side trying to motivatate them as to how bad things can get if they sit idly by while the warmongers misrepresent Christians and Christian values.

Ahh, my mistake, I often forget about the Quakers. I read up on them a while back and they certainly seem principled. I'll have to read up on them again.

And good for you for being a thorn in their side.

 

[moostraks]

I'm truly sorry the movement isn't getting anywhere...I consider we are in the tribulation . This is all bible prophecy. I realize many of you disbelieve the Bible ..therefore you have negated a huge piece of the puzzle. I can't do a thing about that. Tones

One of the problems with using Bible prophecy is you don't know when that prophecy is written for and exactly how much is metaphorical. We are in this mess thanks in large part to various sects forcing the prophecy to ring in a new age of humankind.The prophecy works are written to be guideposts that we are headed in the wrong direction and we are to endeavor not to engage in things which bring us down that path.

One of the reasons for not utilizing fortune telling is because our selfish nature wants us to use the information to force natural events to bend to these preconceived notions.Thus we play god rather than making rational decisions with the future. If Christians would stop trying to mold every word of revelations into modern day events we might get a bit more energy headed into eliminating that mindset that only sees the glory of the end is at hand...(Or that thinks that if we are in His army I don't have to worry about that mortgage because the rapture is coming, the rapture is coming..)

Palin is a bigger nightmare than McCain (and I did not think that was possible).TPTB currently have us in check. They managed to put Huckabee in a dress without the offensiveness of having a minister in power.Our alternative is "the messiah" Obama. Ugh...Since we all know that third party is a long shot,LP was our best chance of name recognition without the religious overtones.They ruined that handily and I would welcome any reasonable thoughts that does not look as gloomy as things look now. I think they won the battle this cycle, so forewarned is forearmed. I say we expect the best and prepare for the worst. Vote your conscience.

 

[moostraks]

Ahh, my mistake, I often forget about the Quakers. I read up on them a while back and they certainly seem principled. I'll have to read up on them again.

And good for you for being a thorn in their side.

They have a very broad tent and include many Buddhists and Unitarians now, too. They believe that the spirit is what motivates people and scripture isn't the absolute last word of knowledge. I was Wiccan previously so it appeals to that side of my nature.

Enjoy your research. They are a really neat group!

 

[tonesforjonesbones]

Atheists will never understand Christians. That's all there is to it. Tones

 

[The_Orlonater]

Why the hell is this a thread?

I'm still voting for Barr, regardless what I think of his disgusting campaign and shitty VP choice. I know it was disgusting of him to miss RP's third party meetup, or convention. I am just voting for him for his somewhat libertarian views. At least he admits he somewhat changed, but you people are arguing about who's less of a corporatist. I don't care about his past, he's not arguing for what McCain and Obama want.

Just vote for Nader, Barr, or Baldwin.

I'd vote based on who's doing the best in your state, though.

 

[anaconda]

Thanks for telling me what to do.

I'm not telling anyone who to vote for. There are third Party candidates all the way from the far left to the far right who are not answerable to the military/industrial/banking complex, all of which are great candidates. They all embrace the "Four-Point" platform put forth at the Washington Press Club event (unlike either of McBama). But I stand guilty as accused of telling people not to vote for McBama. Sorry for sounding pushy about that. Sort of.