Anyone esle wish they were in London right now?

[Rock Sexton]

I know I do. It's so great to see so many of our European bretheren sticking up for themselves.

 

[silverhawks]

You do know that the G20 protests are socialist rallies, right?

 

[Rock Sexton]

You do know that the G20 protests are socialist rallies, right?

Howso?

 

[ghengis86]

I know I do. It's so great to see so many of our European bretheren sticking up for themselves.

uh, they want the governments to do MORE, not less. their protests are valiant, but there motives are cowardly. freedom is dangerous because there is freedom to fail and that scares the timid.

 

[ghengis86]

Howso?

http://www.examiner.com/x-2888-World-News-Examiner~y2009m3d29-G20-protests-begin-in-London

check out the banner "Capitalism isn't working. Another world is possible."

or

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/03/30/g-20-protests-send-us-you_n_180980.html

 

[Master]

http://www.putpeoplefirst.org.uk/about-us/policy-platform/

 

[silverhawks]

Howso?

I also refer you to the information I posted in this thread.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=186151

Pay special attention to the links in my posts. The BBC quoted either communists, socialists, or members of the Labour Party (not that there's much difference between all three).

I don't see these protests being organised for legitimate dissent, more as a way to stop a legitimate, non-Government sanctioned protest from going ahead.

 

[Conza88]

Nope, thats probably the last place I'd want to be.

 

[ghengis86]

http://www.putpeoplefirst.org.uk/about-us/policy-platform/

for the lazy:

Put People First: Ensure democratic governance of the economy
1. Compel tax havens to abide by strict international rules.
2. Insist on fundamental governance reform of the World Bank and International Monetary Fund (IMF).
3. Make all financial institutions, financial products and multinationals transparent and publicly accountable.

Jobs: Decent jobs and public services for all
4. Ensure a massive investment in a green new deal to build a green economy based on decent work and fair pay.
5. Invest in and strengthen public provision of essential services.
6. Work to ensure sufficient emergency funding to all countries that need it, without damaging conditionalities attached.

Justice: End global poverty and inequality
7. Deliver 0.7% of national income as aid by 2013, deliver aid more effectively and push for the cancellation of all illegitimate and unpayable developing country debts.
8. Ensure that poorer states are allowed to take responsibility for managing their economies, including controlling cross-border capital flows.
9. Stop pushing developing countries to liberalise and deregulate their economies, and do not attempt to rush through a completion of the Doha trade round, a deal that developing countries have rejected several times.

Climate: Build a Green Economy
10. In addition to the green new deal (recommendation 4), introduce the robust regulatory requirements and financial incentives needed to deliver a green economy.
11. Push for a deal at Copenhagen to agree substantial, verifiable cuts in greenhouse gases, which will limit temperature increases to well below 2°C.
12. Commit to substantial new resource transfer from North to South, additional to Overseas Development Assistance (ODA), to support adaptation and sustainable development in poor countries.

 

[dr. hfn]

they have a slightly different perspective than we do...

 

[Young Paleocon]

they have a slightly different perspective than we do...

Exactly....It's called stupid.

 

[silverhawks]

Mark my words, these protests are NOT the general members of the public rising up to voice their opinion. This is hideously biased in favour of "left-wing" politics (for those who still subscribe to that paradigm). The BBC is also hideously biased in that direction as well, preaching globalism and multiculturalism.

If the British have one failing, it is tolerance to the point of apathy. That is wearing VERY thin right now on all fronts in the UK, and I honestly have to say, god help the government when that wears out. I've seen REAL protests in the UK, when public patience is exhausted, and its never pretty.

The New Labour government seems intent on antagonising just about everyone - including the British Armed Forces - secure in the assumption that some police (not ALL the police, trust me) and CCTV cameras will protect them. There's a reason why the only armed police in the UK are to be found in Whitehall. In their arrogance, they have no idea of the perfect storm they are creating.

 

[Rock Sexton]

Guess I was wrong about these lads.

 

[silverhawks]

Guess I was wrong about these lads.

Well, this hardly looks like a rage-fuelled protester, does it?

 

[micahnelson]

They are pissed at the banks. I consider them allies in the greater struggle, Us vr. the banks.

 

[vegaspilot03]

lol that pikachu pic is hilarious.

 

[Zolah]

They are pissed at the banks. I consider them allies in the greater struggle, Us vr. the banks.

They are anti-capitalists, simply put.

 

[silverhawks]

They are pissed at the banks. I consider them allies in the greater struggle, Us vr. the banks.

Who? Pokemon Cosplayers for the Socialist Revolution?

Please take a good long look at these.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtqbAKfi0kc

Now, you tell me if you think they are allies of liberty or shills (knowing or unknowing) of the government, because all I hear is "globalism through environmentalism" here.

They don't want the G20 out - they want the G20 to "stop ignoring them" and USE THEIR MONEY TO GLOBALISE NOW.

Note the Communist flags near the start of the video.

And this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3sL3YNlMK4&feature=related

Stop world poverty...through GLOBALISM.

How about this one?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULp1lK2I3_w&feature=related

Note: "People don't want free markets to rule, they want a different society", and of course the huge CAPITALISM ISN'T WORKING sign. Both Martin McMulkin and Tony Woodley (the two men that comment on this video) work at a fairly high level in the same trade union organisation: Unite the Union. Note that according to the BBC report, McKulkin is "just another worker concerned for his job."

Somehow I don't see the VAST majority of Britain's non-union workers and small business owners agreeing with these people.

I also somehow doubt that the vast majority of these protesters think that, for instance, the EU is anything to protest about - because being one small cog in a one global society is fluffy and wonderful, since the government will protect them from all harm; as long as they have nothing to hide, they have nothing to fear. One global currency is a wonderful thing to them, because then the global government and global banking system can take care of that too...

The central overriding message of these "protests" is that capitalism is to blame for all the world's ills, and the G20 should turn their back on it in favour of a global society with non-capitalist rules.

This is collectivist thinking - the rule of the mob - at its WORST, and the BBC is propagandising that message through these broadcasts.

And I am coining this phrase right here, right now: PINO. Protester In Name Only.

 

[RevolutionSD]

http://www.examiner.com/x-2888-World-News-Examiner~y2009m3d29-G20-protests-begin-in-London

check out the banner "Capitalism isn't working. Another world is possible."

or

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/03/30/g-20-protests-send-us-you_n_180980.html

Amazing how ignorant people are!

The LAST thing we have is a capitalist world. Just the very fact that a "G20" even exists proves that free markets do not!

I don't know why it's so hard for people to understand.

 

[silverhawks]

Couple of things. First, another wonderful image:

A good friend of mine pointed this out - these socialists are protesting the capitalist system that provides them with dole checks, or taking time off of work to protest, causing businesses along the protest route to be shuttered, blockaded and closed for three days straight. And they say CAPITALISM is ruining the economy?

And will socialism fix the damage from vandalism during the protests when this is all said and done? I think NOT.

That's the central insanity of socialism for me - it is a parasitic ideology, requiring capitalism in order to validate itself - and it begs for the destruction of its host. These guys can't survive without a nanny state. When capitalism dies and the socialists realise there are no more checks coming, they turn once more to the state for aid, and since the state finds it cannot support itself either in turn, it becomes totalitarian in order to stay alive.

And this, a glimmer of hope and sanity.

Images from pro-capitalist demo