Anyone else want to just say, "screw the GOP?"

the GOP is completely necessary if you want to have air time. we need to make more of an effort to BE the GOP. right now we're outsiders, in a sense. just like the neo-cons infiltrated the GOP and have taken it over, we need to do the same to bring it back to it's core principles.
 
It'd be nice to win on a third party ticket, but two-party system has become too strong at this point. It'll be just as satisfying to claim the party for ourselves. Besides, the party name means nothing...Ron Paul's name means everything.
 
What do you guys think of Libertarian Party members who refuse to switch their party affiliation now to the Republican Party, and depending on party rules, cannot vote for Ron Paul in the primary?

I feel like if the Libertarians would suck it up, get their affiliation changed (it's just paper), and vote en masse for Paul in the primaries, they could tip the scales. We all need to remember how very VERY few Republicans are likely to even know when their primary is---except for Ron Paul supporters.
 
Cowlesy said:
What do you guys think of Libertarian Party members who refuse to switch their party affiliation now to the Republican Party, and depending on party rules, cannot vote for Ron Paul in the primary?

I feel like if the Libertarians would suck it up, get their affiliation changed (it's just paper), and vote en masse for Paul in the primaries, they could tip the scales. We all need to remember how very VERY few Republicans are likely to even know when their primary is---except for Ron Paul supporters.
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My wife and I have already done this. Unfortunately, we live in Oregon, and our primary is not until May. I think that all Libertarians need to switch (if only temporarily) to support the good doctor. I used to be a Republican, and Ron Paul has brought me back to the party.

Libertarians uniting behind Ron Paul by voting for him in the primaries is the only way that they will get their message heard by the vast majority of people in this country.
 
bbachtung said:
My wife and I have already done this. Unfortunately, we live in Oregon, and our primary is not until May. I think that all Libertarians need to switch (if only temporarily) to support the good doctor. I used to be a Republican, and Ron Paul has brought me back to the party.

Libertarians uniting behind Ron Paul by voting for him in the primaries is the only way that they will get their message heard by the vast majority of people in this country.
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Alright bbachtung! To me it doesn't matter when your primary is, your vote still counts no matter what. I'm a huge proponent of "every single vote counts", as I have a paranoia of group-think that could lead folks to think "1 vote doesn't matter" and then have them not vote at all.
 
Cowlesy said:
What do you guys think of Libertarian Party members who refuse to switch their party affiliation now to the Republican Party, and depending on party rules, cannot vote for Ron Paul in the primary?

I feel like if the Libertarians would suck it up, get their affiliation changed (it's just paper), and vote en masse for Paul in the primaries, they could tip the scales. We all need to remember how very VERY few Republicans are likely to even know when their primary is---except for Ron Paul supporters.
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In the most recent poll I've seen, something like 90% of LP'ers (LP dues-paying members - not just small-l libertarians and Libertarian registered voters) are supporting Dr. Paul including Republican registration if necessary. It was around 70% back in May. Several of us here on this forum are "LP insiders", as it were.

Those in the LP who do not choose to support Dr. Paul because he chose a Republican ticket for his campaign are a tiny minority.
 
mdh said:
In the most recent poll I've seen, something like 90% of LP'ers (LP dues-paying members - not just small-l libertarians and Libertarian registered voters) are supporting Dr. Paul including Republican registration if necessary. It was around 70% back in May. Several of us here on this forum are "LP insiders", as it were.

Those in the LP who do not choose to support Dr. Paul because he chose a Republican ticket for his campaign are a tiny minority.
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Ah nice! Welcome to the party, Matt! ;)
 
Cowlesy said:
Ah nice! Welcome to the party, Matt! ;)
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Are you an "LP insider", too? ;)

I say "LP insider" somewhat jokingly since, unlike the Republicans and Democrats, pretty much anyone is welcome to be inside of the LP - it's a very accepting group and always welcoming of fresh faces and new folks.
 
mdh said:
Are you an "LP insider", too? ;)

I say "LP insider" somewhat jokingly since, unlike the Republicans and Democrats, pretty much anyone is welcome to be inside of the LP - it's a very accepting group and always welcoming of fresh faces and new folks.
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Dyed-in-the-wool Republican since 2000. I still have your business card--I think we met latenight at the Ron Paul afterparty post the Pittsburgh Rally at the Sheraton outside. I think I got nicknamed the "stockbroker" even though I don't trade equities. Chalk that one up to it being 1:00AM after a Ron Paul rally.
 
Cowlesy said:
Dyed-in-the-wool Republican since 2000. I still have your business card--I think we met latenight at the Ron Paul afterparty post the Pittsburgh Rally at the Sheraton outside. I think I got nicknamed the "stockbroker" even though I don't trade equities. Chalk that one up to it being 1:00AM after a Ron Paul rally.
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Ah, the gentleman from NYC! Right! I do indeed remember meeting you. You were hanging out with Mr. Johnson who I am still holding out hope will contact me regarding service as a delegate to the state GOP convention for Dr. Paul. We're getting there in terms of delegates, but every bit helps.
 
mdh- you are clearly familiar w/ the libertarian party....

can you please please tell me who ran for Texas Railroad Commisioner in 2004... if you know.
 
Looks like cjhowe beat me to it. Is that you, constituent? :)
 
I hear you,use what we have to

EvilEngineer said:
I'm frankly sick of all of the crap we are having to put up with from the GOP, and really there is no reason we have to take it. Sadly we've been sinking hundreds of thousands of dollars raising money for them to participate in the straw polls, and for what, crooked results and back room corruption?

So why do we need the GOP to tell us who to vote for and who to support? Surely with our level of activism it is proof that a new organizational body needs to be born, one that strictly follows the constitution and the rights of the individual and equal exposure for candidates.
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If the gop fails Ron Pauls message ,then they loose and we abandon the GOP and Vote for Ron Paul outside of the 2 old parties.The only wasted vote now is voting democrat or republican same big gov intrusive liberals A Vote for romney/thompson/mccain/rudolf is a vote for hillary Ron Paul2008
 
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