Anyone else here pro-choice?

[tarabyte]

Almost all "pro lifers" are religious. Their religion clouds their judgment.

What bothers me is preaching abstinence and treating sex as if it is evil actually increases the number of unwanted pregnancies.

Yet the same people who deny easy access to contraceptives and adamantly oppose sex education are the ones most pissed off about abortions.

I think more focus should be spent on preventing unwanted pregnancies through proper education than on trying to muck around with the abortion issue.

 

[LiberalDemForRP]

It'll sure get her act together when she has to grow up. If you let her get the abortion it becomes an alternative birth control.

Because almost all uneducated, poor mothers simply "grow up" when said child is born? I beg to differ.

 

[tommy7154]

Almost all "pro lifers" are religious. Their religion clouds their judgment.

I dont know about the first statement but I do agree religion is a great cloud of judgment.

 

[RonPaulVolunteer]

Because almost all uneducated, poor mothers simply "grow up" when said child is born? I beg to differ.

No, but their children, ala ME, CAN!

But I guess you'd prefer not to give me that chance.

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[Fields]

Dr. Ron Paul actually talked about how he became pro life in this article from on the floor in congress in 1979. http://www.l4l.org/library/congrecord.html

Check it out if you want.

 

[tarabyte]

Again, F Off. Seriously.

Wow, you really took that personally. Sorry that I offended you so badly.

 

[LiberalDemForRP]

Congrats... In all my time here, I have never blocked another user. You, will be my first...

But don't worry, your spirit will be reincarnated into some other asshole, so I'm sure you won't be the last...

With all due respect, I'm not sure why you took such offense to her opinions? She was saying nothing bad about you, just stating her position.. ? There's a way to debate and be civil while doing so.

 

[tommy7154]

Because almost all uneducated, poor mothers simply "grow up" when said child is born? I beg to differ.

Agreed. I know me and my wife personally grew up quick when we had ours (she was 16 I was 17) but I ALSO know many young parents who have not at all...

 

[tarabyte]

Congrats... In all my time here, I have never blocked another user. You, will be my first...

But don't worry, your spirit will be reincarnated into some other asshole, so I'm sure you won't be the last...

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I'm not sure why you took what I said as a personal attack.

 

[Fields]

No, but their children, ala ME, CAN!

But I guess you'd prefer not to give me that chance.

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Bravissimo!

 

[RonPaulVolunteer]

With all due respect, I'm not sure why you took such offense to her opinions? She was saying nothing bad about you, just stating her position.. ? There's a way to debate and be civil while doing so.

?? There's nothing CIVIL about YOU wanting to murder the unborn...

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[fmontez]

I'm a pro-choice male and I am curious as to whether anyone else here, male or female, is as well.

Pro-physician assisted murder of fetuses? I am not in favor of killing children, sorry.

FYI I don't use the "pro-choice" or "abortion" words... it's just a cheap terminology game... if you can't call it what it is then you know you have a problem. It's called denial and deflection.

It is strange that some who claim to be pro-life supporth the death penalty, and even more strange that some that worry about a few thousand paid soldiers fighting in Iraq, many of whom want to be there, but they are not worried about the slaughter of 48 million babies. <--- these kind of folks are hypocrites, and I have zero respect or use for them.

 

[RonPaulVolunteer]

Pro-physician assisted murder of fetuses? I am not in favor of killing children, sorry.

FYI I don't use the "pro-choice" or "abortion" words... it's just a cheap terminology game... if you can't call it what it is then you know you have a problem. It's called denial and deflection.

+!

 

[literatim]

?? There's nothing CIVIL about YOU wanting to murder the unborn...

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Imagine someone saying, "I would like to see all <enter group here> killed." Then replying, "I don't know why you are upset, I was just stating my opinion. Isn't there room for a civil debate?"

 

[Fields]

Pro-physician assisted murder of fetuses? I am not in favor of killing children, sorry.

FYI I don't use the "pro-choice" or "abortion" words... it's just a cheap terminology game... if you can't call it what it is then you know you have a problem. It's called denial and deflection.

Good call on the term game. Gotta remember that for future bouts.

 

[RonPaulVolunteer]

I'd like to see these pro-choicers watch an ultrasound of an abortion taking place as the baby backs away from the vacuum and fights for its life and see the ripped and torn fetus sucked into a jar, and see how feel then.

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[tarabyte]

Imagine someone saying, "I would like to see all <enter group here> killed." Then replying, "I don't know why you are upset, I was just stating my opinion. Isn't there room for a civil debate?"

Nobody said that they want to see all pregnancies aborted. Anyone who actually likes abortion is sick.

But showing more compassion to a young girl who got pregnant at the wrong time than to an unborn fetus is hardly the same thing as implying that you want an entire collective group of x to get killed.

 

[tarabyte]

I'd like to see these pro-choicers watch an ultrasound of an abortion taking place as the baby backs away from the vacuum and fights for its life and see the ripped and torn fetus sucked into a jar, and see how feel then.

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I feel strong distaste for abortion. That doesn't change my pro-choice opinion on the matter though.

 

[RonPaulVolunteer]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THS2zZ4m260

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[literatim]

Nobody said that they want to see all pregnancies aborted.

Well, Stalin didn't want all Christian killed either, just enough to keep the population in check.

Anyone who actually likes abortion is sick.

Why do you think its sick if you don't think its human life?

But showing more compassion to a young girl who got pregnant at the wrong time than to an unborn fetus is hardly the same thing as implying that you want an entire collective group of x to get killed.

So one human life has greater value than the other? Last I checked everyone has the right to life.