Any handguns better than a Glock?

[maeqFREEDOMfree]

i shoot a .40 cal Springfield XD and love it. it's a cheaper gun when compared to a HK, SIG, Kimber, etc, but i absolutely love it. it's my first pistol and i got it about a week before i took my CPL class here in Michigan. i shot best in the class and was awarded free range time

personally with the glocks i've shot, the glock 36 is the only one i'd consider buying. just a personal preference, but the weight change as your magazine empties is not something i like at all.
i went with the XD 40 after shooting it and a glock 27 and couldn't get over how light the glock was with the last few rounds left in the mag compared to when i started with a full clip.

 

[amy31416]

Give me a nice .357 revolver loaded with jacketed hollow-points any day. Reliable. Don't jam. GREAT stopping power and, if I can drop what I'm aiming at in five shots, I don't deserve to live. ;-)

I'm with you. I like revolvers. And I've gone to the range twice, I'm a pretty good shot

 

[youngbuck]

Yea, revolvers are as good as you can get for reliability and accuracy. No need to worry about a safety or anything else if you need to grab it during an adrenaline rush. That being said... as far as auto loading pistols go, I think a Glock is as close to a revolver (in simplicity and reliability) as you can get.

 

[kyleAF]

I own a Makarov. The 9x18 ammo is getting too expensive now though, so I'm looking to upgrade to a standard NATO round.

My Mak has never misfired or jammed, and is simple as hell with only about 20 separate parts total. It's kinda the Ak-47 of pistols, IMHO. I have seen Glocks jam and misfire...but I agree they're really good pistols.

I honestly don't like a polymer / composite frame, though. For aesthetic reasons, for materials reasons (I'm a materials engineer), and for weight distribution upon emptying the clip reasons.

What does everyone think of the CZ 75 line?? That's what I'm considering right now...

 

[Doktor_Jeep]

Oh no this is as bad as an AK versus AR thread.

Glocks are great and I won my first competion with a Glock 26 (no I did not shoot the other competitors).

However it's hit or miss with the grip angle. On some people it agrees with their wrist, on others it works against them and they simply can't shoot them.

My only problem with Glocks (I won't mention how the lack of a actuating safety makes pocket carry suicidal) is they won't take cast bullets. Of course you can use cast bullets in a Glock but there is a chance of blowing the gun up due to the rifling in the barrel. It appears the .40 caliber models are most susceptable to this.

 

[bunklocoempire]

Go with comfortable. Comfortable to you. Don't matter if it's a Glock or a single action 1851 Colt navy, comfortable is where it's at.

Bunkloco

 

[maeqFREEDOMfree]

lol bump nothing personal against glock, their guns are strong i suppose, but i prefer buying american (springfield, colt etc)

 

[the_british_are_coming]

aside from the obvious rebuttals, if you haven't any experience with a firearm, maybe you shouldn't tell people it doesn't work!

you will find that the people who run things down the most have the least experience, and a little reading/research will bear that out...


one thing i have to address though, is the guy that said this:


"The main disadvantage of the Glock is price. They are expensive compared to other options, either when new or used"


$499.00 is expensive for a high quality gun?!?!??!?!!!!??!?!?!?!!!!?!?!?!?!?! (not sure i emphasized my sarcastic disbelief enough... you are wrong...)


so many "people" (and by people i mean a$$hats) will tell you how their Kimber is great, but Glock is too expensive... and that the Kimber is more reliable. these people will also tell you that 8:00 AM is when the sun goes down and it gets all dark at whatnot....


dear sweet 8 lb. baby jesus. please tell me i'm hallucinating. a lot.

somehow, they have convinced themselves that a $1000 gun that jams 25-50% of the time is a better deal than a $500 gun that runs 100%.


i understand that logic just as surely as i'm voting for obama.


that means i don't, i'm not, and it is in no way true.

for the money, you can in no way beat it. facts are facts, physics are physics...

if you think otherwise, i'm sure communism is a valid lifestyle for you. just make sure you go far far far far far far away to exercise your constitutional freedom to impose your views on others.

 

[the_british_are_coming]

lol bump nothing personal against glock, their guns are strong i suppose, but i prefer buying american (springfield, colt etc)

ok. was gonna let it go, but then i read this post...


you prefer buying american, and would buy a Springfield??????!!!!!!!??????/



have you ever looked at a springfield?????!!!!!!!!????????


springfields are, for the most part, made in two places:

BRAZIL

and

CROATIA



so, when did the Union expand to 52 states, brother???





damn, stupid really should hurt....

 

[coastie]

That is funny...here's the proof on my XD ...

The Made in the USA part doesnt really bother me when it comes to guns.

 

[amy31416]

My personal belief is that all guns purchased by Americans should be manufactured in the US for philosophical reasons.

 

[Cap]

The problem I have with the Glockk is the polygonal rifling. This limits the pistol to shooting jacketed only bullets. I reload and I like shooting a hardened cast bullet. With the price of ammo going sky high, it is important to get a gun that will eat ALL ammo. The Sigs are very finicky when it comes to reloads also.

If you want the best semi auto for the money, get a Ruger. They eat anything, they can be run over by a tank and still shoot. Also very accurate. They are easy to field strip and Ruger offers support that blows the competition away. You can own two Rugers for the price of one of these other guns these guys are pushing.

It's also American made.

 

[the_british_are_coming]

Rugers also have huge grips, and are to big for many people to comfortably handle...

and if you want to shoot unjacketed lead, it's a simple matter of dropping in a $100 replacement barrel, and you can shoot lead all day. options.


check:

http://glockparts.com/store/item/1j...d/9mm_G-17_Stock_Length_Stainless_Barrel.html

 

[madengr]

The problem I have with the Glockk is the polygonal rifling. This limits the pistol to shooting jacketed only bullets. I reload and I like shooting a hardened cast bullet. With the price of ammo going sky high, it is important to get a gun that will eat ALL ammo. The Sigs are very finicky when it comes to reloads also.

I have been reloading with Rainier 230 gr plated RN. I have yet to try it in my G36 but it's the cheapest I have found as a compromise between a real jacket and unjacketed.

 

[Matt]

The problem I have with the Glockk is the polygonal rifling. This limits the pistol to shooting jacketed only bullets. I reload and I like shooting a hardened cast bullet. With the price of ammo going sky high, it is important to get a gun that will eat ALL ammo. The Sigs are very finicky when it comes to reloads also.

You can get aftermarket barrels for Glocks. I think they're around $100 which would still be cheaper than a Sig or HK.

 

[thuja]

no problem w/ruger 357

 

[hamilton1049]

From a retired Marine. when Glocks have served for over 95 yrs in front line combat service in every clime and place in the world I might think about it, until then I'll carry my M1911-A1.

 

[maeqFREEDOMfree]

ok. was gonna let it go, but then i read this post...


you prefer buying american, and would buy a Springfield??????!!!!!!!??????/



have you ever looked at a springfield?????!!!!!!!!????????


springfields are, for the most part, made in two places:

BRAZIL

and

CROATIA



so, when did the Union expand to 52 states, brother???





damn, stupid really should hurt....

careful... didn't say american made check out my post on the hs 2000 springfield's still an American company as far as i know and they have a great warranty.

 

[the_british_are_coming]

if i was careful i wouldn't be nearly as much fun!!!


yeah, Springfield is an american company, but they aren't the same Springfield of the wonderful 1903A1 days. The company name Springfield was sold (wish i could remember to whom) and it is now just a trade name, not the original company that outfitted our military through 2 world wars. But i'll take your point. Since i'm nice...

 

[the_british_are_coming]

p.s. slightly delayed reaction...

"Grip Angle?????" what does the grip angle have to do with anything???


do you line up the front and back grips with the target? nope...


you line up the front and back SIGHTS with the target.

the "grip angle" is a lame excuse... jeepdok...


just freaking lame.

can't even tear it up, it's so lame.