Antiwar.com: Neocons and Obamaites Unite Against Rand Paul - Justin Raimondo

[anaconda]

Because his job is to act like the concerned senator. He's never going to challenge it. There's no point as it's so prevelant and repeated daily.

The difference here is that it would be incumbent on the establishment to come clean with their "evidence" which could be exposed as faulty or non-existent. They're already in the dog house over weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. I realize that there would be a lot of familiar tactics but I don't think it would hold up to scrutiny. We are also not building in the possibility that there may be an imminent tipping point where people begin to believe the accusations. And at some point it may be incumbent on someone with the clout of a Rand Paul to start making their own accusations: that the military contractors pay the congress to create enemies.

 

[sylcfh]

I'm glad he took a shot at Kristol. What a moron.

But it’s true that a Republican party that follows the path of Rand Paul will end up as thoroughly defeated at the ballot box as Macbeth was routed on the battlefield of Dunsinane. And as deservedly so.



Dec 24, 2012: Bill Kristol predicts Congress will avoid 'fiscal cliff'

Jun 8, 2011: "I'm told by two reliable sources that Rudy Giuliani intends to run for the GOP nomination for president in 2012. He may throw his hat in the ring soon."

December 17, 2006: If [Hillary Clinton] gets a race against John Edwards and Barack Obama, she’s going to be the nominee. Gore is the only threat to her, then. … Barack Obama is not going to beat Hillary Clinton in a single Democratic primary. I’ll predict that right now.

 

[sylcfh]

Even the National Review thinks Kristol is a moron.


Bill, not Irving.


http://www.nationalreview.com/agend...ere-are-gop-policy-entrepreneurs-reihan-salam

 

[itshappening]

The difference here is that it would be incumbent on the establishment to come clean with their "evidence" which could be exposed as faulty or non-existent. They're already in the dog house over weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. I realize that there would be a lot of familiar tactics but I don't think it would hold up to scrutiny. We are also not building in the possibility that there may be an imminent tipping point where people begin to believe the accusations. And at some point it may be incumbent on someone with the clout of a Rand Paul to start making their own accusations: that the military contractors pay the congress to create enemies.

I agree with you but Rand probably gets calls from people in Kentucky scared to death of the Iranian threat. It's that bad. He's not going to indulge in an education mission when the myth is so widespread and he's trying to win votes in a short period of time. Most politicians will join in the demagoguery but he can at least say 'I voted for sanctions... I'm extremely concerned but we can't afford another trillion dollar war'

 

[Christian Liberty]

I agree with you but Rand probably gets calls from people in Kentucky scared to death of the Iranian threat. It's that bad. He's not going to indulge in an education mission when the myth is so widespread and he's trying to win votes in a short period of time. Most politicians will join in the demagoguery but he can at least say 'I voted for sanctions... I'm extremely concerned but we can't afford another trillion dollar war'

Ron would have... see why I like him so much better?

I know Rand is trying though. Its just that there's so much misinformation its ridiculous. I mean, is it acceptable to vote for mass starvation for political reasons? I don't think it is.

Yes it's good for liberty if you understand what Rand is doing. He's persuing the White House and has a short time frame to grab the nomination and the presidency. He might have to give up the Senate seat to do it in 2016 so he's not going to be there forever. Rand is not here to advance liberty and educate the American public over the next 25 years. He's here to grab the GOP nomination in 2016 and have a tilt at the White House. Although I hope Kentucky change the law and allow him to run for both the Senate and presidency but it might not be permissible in which case by 2017 he's either the president or an eye doctor again.

Being on the good side of Levin, Limbaugh, Beck, Ingraham, etc etc. will ensure he gets a fair hearing and fair coverage leading up to 2016. Most of them are praising him even if they dont agree with everything he stands for. They're not all controlled by Kristol and his gang and this is a way to break the Matrix.

If Rand actually wins, and actually gets anything changed, I'll admit I was wrong. But I don't think that this is a very good strategy. I don't think its possible to win and maintain any semblance of principle.

 

[itshappening]

Ron would have... see why I like him so much better?

I know Rand is trying though. Its just that there's so much misinformation its ridiculous. I mean, is it acceptable to vote for mass starvation for political reasons? I don't think it is.



If Rand actually wins, and actually gets anything changed, I'll admit I was wrong. But I don't think that this is a very good strategy. I don't think its possible to win and maintain any semblance of principle.

Guess what? he doesn't care what you think. He'll either be president or an eye doctor in Jan 2017.