anti-mccain vets want to start a REVOLUTION in the GOP

While such an attack by this group might be good for the Ron Paul campaign, negative advertising is morally wrong and politically hazardous.

So let me get this straight. If a candidate has a past record that is not exactly peachy and advertising is conducted to inform the voting public of the past transgressions, some moral boundary has been overstepped?

Don’t get me wrong, I’m all for practicing what I think is right, but don’t fool yourself into thinking that politics will ever be played on a fair ground. Believe it or not, some humans are only interested in power, and the truth, however ugly it might be, should be used to offset such interests.

Besides, what are we going to do about it? Outlaw all negative campaigning ever? Limit free speech? Who exactly would enforce such an endeavor?
 
these guys could be our greatest allies... people with memories of vietnam can't look fondly on an ongoing undeclared neverending war in iraq...

how can we contribute?
 
US Marine Iraq War/Afghanistan vet here, strongly opposed to McCain.

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bump!
http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBiti-ZbeO0
 
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While such an attack by this group might be good for the Ron Paul campaign, negative advertising is morally wrong and politically hazardous.

Well let's not have Ron Paul endorse them eh?

As long as they are only telling the truth, what's immoral about their doing so?

Now if they are putting out false information that's wrong.
 
Now if they are putting out false information that's wrong.

It's not false information. It's true. Regardless.

Why Did McCain Block Release of POW Info?

McCain's ace in the hole is the rock solid support his former POW status engenders from veterans. Why, then, did he single handedly block the release of MIA/POW records? In doing so, he thwarted a 401-0 vote in the House and left families of MIA's stunned. Why? A new documentary narrated by Ed Asner explores this question and reaches the apparently compelling conclusion that McCain's motivation was to suppress his own records. From this, they move to speculation about what is in those records. I can't speak to the veracity of that speculation because ... we don't have the records. Whatever conclusions we reach on the latter front, McCain should be compelled to squarely address his suppression of these records. For more background, here is a 2005 piece in the Village Voice. [ht: I Perceive]
 
Huck is going to higher Chuck to go get some POWs and bring them back as he done in his movie. LMFAO
 
Attack ads are only morally wrong if they are untrue or intentionally deceptive. It's perfectly moral to highlight the worst things about a person.

Agreed. However, some of the allegations made by SBVFT in 2004 were untrue and intentionally deceptive. All you have to do is tell the truth about McCain and people will see him for the scumbag that he is. Because SBVFT (now "Swift Vets and POWs For Truth") have already proven themselves in the eyes of many as more concerned with politics than truth, many people will be skeptical of their allegations, even if they are completely true. We need a better messenger.

Some of the other anti-McCain vets, such as Vietnam Veterans Against John McCain , seem quite upfront and truthful. I think they'd make a much better messenger. Even they seem to repudiate the Swift Boat Vets distortions. There is a link on the right-hand side of their page "Submerging the truth about Swift Boat Vets."

Our revolution is a revolution of truth, and when the truth is on your side, there's no need for liars.
 
Question for McCain:
With your long history of liberalism, why do you seek the Republican Party nomination?

John McCain (SongBird McCain) Traitor! (COMPELLING AUDIO LISTEN!!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRvXEsW4Fgg

FACT SHEET: Military record of John Sidney McCain III
http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com/mccain_post_card_word[1].pdf

John "SongBird" McCain is Part of The Keating Five Scandel
http://www.azcentral.com/news/specials/mccain/articles/0301mccainbio-chapter7.html

John McCain - Fit For Command?
http://www.capitolhillblue.com/cont/node/4486

U.S. Sen. John McCain is no War Hero
http://www.namvets.com/Reading/john_mccain_is_no_war_hero.htm

John McCain: The Manchurian Candidate
http://www.usvetdsp.com/mccainpic.htm

Default McCain borrowed money from bank, used fundraising list as collateral!!!!
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0108/7837.html

Why Did McCain Block Release of POW Info?
http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0523,schanberg,64705,6.html
http://iperceive.net/john-mccain-hanoi-collaborator/

How the Clintons will undo McCain
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=60020

McCain's Divorce
http://www.usvetdsp.com/mcaindiv.htm

"What happened to John McCain's first wife?"
http://askville.amazon.com/happened-John-McCain's-wife/AnswerViewer.do?requestId=7408966

VIDEO: John McCain in "Missing, Presumed Dead"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBiti-ZbeO0

Kennedy-McCain Amnesty Plan
http://www.newswithviews.com/Taft/john29.htm
http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2007/1/25/131758.shtml

YouTube - John McCain- Weak on Immigration
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vs6wwg_ie6Y

Campaign Finance Reform: The Issue (McCain-Feingold)
http://www.opensecrets.org/news/campaignfinance/index.asp

McCain/Lieberman Gun Control
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/679560/posts

McCain Qoutes:

"Thank God for our form of government. The media won't let there be any cover-up." -- John McCain
"Bomb Bomb Bomb Iran..." -- John McCain

YouTube - McCain laughs, Sings Bomb Iran
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAzBxFaio1I

"100 Years in Iraq would be fine by me." -- John McCain
"I'm not interested in trading with al Qaeda, all they want to trade is burkas. I don't want to travel with them, they like one-way tickets." -- John McCain

Senator McCain has hired a dual-nationality Mexican/American citizen (Juan Hernandez) to be his outreach coordinator to the Hispanic community. Juan Hernandez is the legalized version of a present-day Benedict Arnold!

McCain introduces bill to extend US health care to Mexico
http://www.digg.com/politics/McCain_introduced_bill_to_extend_US_health_care_to_Mexico

Vietnam Vet speaks of "Songbird" McCain
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/february2008/020708_never_tortured.htm

Vietnam Veterans Against John McCain
http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com/

US Documents pertaining to McCain’s COLLABORATIONS with the Communist

http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com/cin_declassified_landing.htm

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Google "Hanoi McCain"
 
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While such an attack by this group might be good for the Ron Paul campaign, negative advertising is morally wrong and politically hazardous.

Negative advertising is morally wrong? "Though shalt not commit adultery" is negative advertising against adulterers.
 
Wait a minute. Wtf is wrong with these people? There's been a r3VOLution going on for the past year. They got juan mc100war because they refused to look at the most conservative person they've ever had running in their party and now they're whining and talking about reforming the party?

Why don't they just get on board with us????????????????????????????????????????

Or am I missing something......
 
This must go viral "Let the Rebellion Begin"

Good site, however the list of Neocon's link they have on the left side, bother me greatly. I was gonna sign their pledge, but even that link doesnt exist. Here is a partial list of the neocon's they have links to...

Sean Hannity
Rush Limbaugh
Numbers USA
Laura Ingraham
Glenn Beck

Very disturbing list.
 
Your right!

My god "Hannity!" of all people, thats enough to make me stop and think a little harder, thank's for the wake up call.
Although I still think that having McCain in the spotlight will only hurt him and help usher in a brokered convention, did you hear the contrasting responses to his and RPs CPAC speeches
 
While such an attack by this group might be good for the Ron Paul campaign, negative advertising is morally wrong and politically hazardous.

Who cares? NAU is morally wrong. Amnesty is morally wrong. One hundred more years of war is morally wrong. Shall I continue? And, don't bother to give me, "two wrongs don't make a right." SCREW IT! Either this is a movement or it's not. Shall we submit to McCain, and keep the moral high ground, or shall we attack and have a fighting chance for our future.

Get your priorities straight.
 
Good site, however the list of Neocon's link they have on the left side, bother me greatly. I was gonna sign their pledge, but even that link doesnt exist. Here is a partial list of the neocon's they have links to...

Sean Hannity
Rush Limbaugh
Numbers USA
Laura Ingraham
Glenn Beck

Very disturbing list.

Remember all the above folks HATE McCain!
 
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