Another stroke of good luck for Ron Paul?

[Australia_for_RonPaul2008]

Big Louie
Nolan Chart
Thursday January 10, 2008

While Mayor Bloomberg's entrance into the race isn't yet official, it becomes more and more apparent that he will enter the Presidential race as an independent. This comes after months of speculation and rumor into the Mayors intentions. Bloomberg is the Mayor of New York City and a Multi-Billionaire, who can easily funnel millions, if not billions, into a presidential bid.

In fact, he has said he would be willing to spend more than a Billion Dollars if he decided to run. He is reported to have already spent a lot of money getting prepared for an entrance into the race. This, along with his changing rhetoric, seems to indicate that this years presidential election is about to become chaotic.

But how does this help Congressman Paul(R/Tx) into the White House? Because it could become a 4-way race to win the White House.

I know a lot of Ron Paul supporters are ready to hang me from the highest tree, but lets have a reality check and put this into perspective. I am sure that all of us "Paultards" can agree on what we want as a final outcome, so it is time to look at some alternative plans for the future.


First, we must be able to see the divisions within each of the 2 major parties. No matter which candidate wins, there will be a HUGE block of voters who will be unhappy with their parties choice (The voting of the lesser of two evils will come back into play) and those voters will be open to a 3rd party candidate.

If Clinton wins the Democratic Nomination, there will be a huge exodus of Independent voters from the Democrats who supported Obama. These are typically young voters, the same ones that are attracted to Dr. Paul on the Republican side.

While Mayor Bloomberg would capture a sizable portion of these Democratic-leaning Independent voters, He wouldn't be able to attract the independents from the Republican side. His taxation policies wouldn't be very attractive even to the most social conservative. He might be able to steal some of Hillary's votes too.

On the Republican side you have 3 main contenders, McCain, Romney and Huckabee. The winner of the Republican Nomination won't have a very easy time capturing the other two candidate's supporters are they are not in line with the other candidates positions.

It's like the start of a joke "A Morman, a Baptist Preacher and a War-monger were running for president....."

This would leave the with only one other choice, the best one of course, Congressman Ron Paul.

Dr. Paul appeals to Mormons, evangelicals, non-interventionests, etc. He would be able to swipe a large portion of these voters also.

Dr. Paul should NOT change his plans at this time, the race for the Republican Nomination isn't over yet and he can still make huge strides in name recognition and have a stage on the national debate platform. This will be critical when, and if, he will decide to run as an independent.

There will not be a choice, I am afraid, if he doesn't have at least one State, in January, that he either wins or places a very close second. If there are only 4th and 5th place finishes in the primaries before Super Tuesday, Dr. Paul will have a struggle in those 20 States to finish above 15%.

That will be irrelevant if Mayor Bloomberg enters the race as an independent. Much like Ross Perot did to the Republicans in 1992, Bloomberg will do to the Democrats in 2008 .Now picture Presidential Election as a 4-way race, it would be a real challenge to the 2-party system, if not a complete disaster.

How would we afford it? Dr. Paul could also apply for federal matching funds. These are funds that are "given" by citizens on their federal tax funds and SHOULD be used by Dr. Paul. This would give him an enormous war chest to begin an independent campaign for President. Of course, we could keep right on giving as well.

I realize we have just started the primaries and that we could win next week. However, like in chess, if your opening gambit fails, you have to start planning your endgame early. Do not be pig-headed and NOT plan ahead just because you want your opening plan to work.

No matter the results of the primaries through Super Tuesday, where there is a will, there is a way.

I will not quit until I see Dr. Paul elected as President.

 

[pickdog]

bloomberg announced the forming of a committee to explore his chances...

 

[mleclerc]

message below, got double posted.

 

[mleclerc]

Australia_for_rp,
Excellent post... I was thinking the same things since the NH primary and reading the latest about Bloomberg's potential run... we all know we aren't going to fold up like the lawn chair campaigns of the others as the conventions near...

Ron's message will rcontinue ringing loud and clear above the eventual "annointed" party candidates, as it looks like the Fed is preparing to pour money into the markets to prop up wall st and paper over subprime, which will cause the dollar to continue to fall. Oil, gold and all commodities are at/near record highs...and the CPI is a sham, yet the majority still don't get it...
People's wallets will be screaming for mercy by this summer and the fraud will become clear, even for the sleeping sheeple to see as they realize only one person in this campaign has had the courage to speak the truth.

In saying the above, I am in no way conceding the Republican nomination, but as a NH resident- seeing how confused many still were as they came in to vote... we must understand that MANY voters will NEVER take initiative to look into Ron Paul, to understand what he is saying; but will instead need and external force outside politics that will get them to perk up... and their wallets will wake them up as inflation continues tearing through people's savings and paychecks.

 

[Captain Shays]

I've been going around in other threads saying this. No way should Ron Paul run as a third party candidate.

Instead we should take the heat off of him and announc publically that we're all going to vote for Ron Paul no matter what. Then the next time they ask him any stupid questions he can just defer it to me and you.

 

[cayton]

If Ron can not win the republican nomination, and if bloomberg runs as an independent, ron would be crazy not to get in that mix.

Bloomberg would use his influence to get into the "main" debates, and I expect they'd be forced to take paul as well.

The best scenerios for paul, imo, all involve bloomberg. If paul wins the republican nomination and goes against a democrat AND bloomberg, I like his chances. If paul cant win the repub nomination, and runs on the LP ticket, I also like his chances vs dem/repub/bloomberg, and even more so if that dem is named clinton.

 

[Truth Warrior]

Considering how ticked the country, in general, is about Bush and the Republicans, it seems like it would only help the Dems.<IMHO>

 

[jdmetz]

Just as long as the anti-war vote isn't split 3 ways leaving a war-mongering neocon in the whitehouse.

 

[enjerth]

nevermind

 

[Xenophage]

Ron Paul is unlikely to apply for matching Federal Funds on moral grounds. He thinks it would be hypocritical of him to do so, and its easy to see why. At the same time, its easy to justify applying for the funds when you consider these two things:

1 - Every one of his supporters are taxed and have been taxed for quite a while by the Federal Government, and what was rightly our money in the first place ought to go to Ron Paul's campaign, the only campaign that wants to end the taxation.

2 - Ron Paul is forced to work within a corrupt system whereby he may not be able to achieve his political goals, the only MORAL political goals being advocated, without taking these funds.

 

[Australia_for_RonPaul2008]

Ron Paul is unlikely to apply for matching Federal Funds on moral grounds. He thinks it would be hypocritical of him to do so, and its easy to see why. At the same time, its easy to justify applying for the funds when you consider these two things:

That's a good projection.

I hope when the time comes supporters will let Ron Paul know it's the right thing to do.

Although the attackers would, maybe.......exploit this as hypocrisy seeing he wants to dismantle the IRS which would affect Federal funds. Well that's what they'd say anyway.