Another source has come out saying Ron Paul tinkering with 3rd party run.

I think the question is really..... would having ron in the national debates be worth the prospect of potentially flushing any future we had with the GOP down the drain?
 
"I think we should communicate (LP) that they should accept Ron Paul in any way on the Libertarian ticket"

He's talking about loser laws and how it maybe harder to get Ron Paul in President spot as opposed to Vice President position. To have Paul/Johnson ticket the VP would have to step out and Johnson would step down and RP would come in as President.

It sounds to me he wants to lobby both Paul/Johnson and Johnson/Paul, either way sounds like he would be happy with. The caller makes a point that Paul at the top of the ticket would carry more weight then the other way around.

His main point is although not impossible would be more challenging because of Libertarian rules that would need to be either changed or certain people would need to decide to step down/out, etc. but not impossible.
 
Romney is ruthless. He's already trying to get the Libertarians off the ballots in the key battleground states.

He did the same to Ron and others, that is why only he and Ron were on in Virginia, remember? People check signatures, that is why you are supposed to collect so many more than required.
 
Could this be a grand plan hatched by Ron and Rand?

Allowing Rand to distance himself from Ron and appear as a party player and still yet allow Ron to run indy/3rd party while minimizing the risk of alienating the liberty movement within the GOP?


I doubt it, but it is interesting to ponder.
 
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Hahaha, if someone is considering running they better figure out social media.
 
"I think we should communicate (LP) that they should accept Ron Paul in any way on the Libertarian ticket"

He's talking about loser laws and how it maybe harder to get Ron Paul in President spot as opposed to Vice President position. To have Paul/Johnson ticket the VP would have to step out and Johnson would step down and RP would come in as President.

It sounds to me he wants to lobby both Paul/Johnson and Johnson/Paul, either way sounds like he would be happy with. The caller makes a point that Paul at the top of the ticket would carry more weight then the other way around.

His main point is although not impossible would be more challenging because of Libertarian rules that would need to be either changed or certain people would need to decide to step down/out, etc. but not impossible.

Almost nowhere do sore loser laws even pretend to apply to presidential races: http://www.ballot-access.org/2007/0...t-generally-apply-to-presidential-candidates/

I would only work on this saying 'but only as president, not VP'.

Johnson wouldn't even poll well enough to make the debates. Ron already has polled that well multiple times and would only have to continue to do so.
 
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If people truly question whether I have a backbone or not after everything I have done for the Liberty movement then we are farther behind as a movement than I thought we were.

I'm not sure I support the Ron running as VP. There would be damage to R candidates that support him without recourse.
BUT, If Ron were running as Pres and Gary as VP, then Ron would be in the debates, and that would give R candidates ammo.
IMHO.
 
Bloomberg interview - he said "it's not my party" when they asked him about "his party."

[video]http://www.bloomberg.com/video/ron-paul-on-mitt-romney-federal-reserve-policy-PzN1pGfZTSiH2hCKVxx6VA.html [/video]

She asked - as you reflect, are you unhappy with your party? Ron said, Well (he starts everything with well, doesn't he?), it's not my party, I don't like politics at all.
 
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I think the question is really..... would having ron in the national debates be worth the prospect of potentially flushing any future we had with the GOP down the drain?

What future with the GOP? We continue to get stealth people in office in the Republican party while pursuing Ron Paul as a third party/independent.
 
Paul/Johnson if this happens we can have Black THIS Out Part 2 October 19th, the one year anniversary right before the election. Have Ron make a 15 minute live speech on major networks like Ross Perot. I can speculate and dream some more.
 
I've been listening to the call. Everything seems legit to me and I like the guy. Some people are jumping the gun and calling him a Johnson supporter trying to get Paul as the VP. This doesn't seem to be true to me based on what I've heard so far. He's stated that he's not an expert on how the Libertarian Party would handle the transition, whether both people would have to step down or only one. He said the best thing to do is lobby Ron Paul's office and the Libertarian Party to show them support for this potential ticket and that if anything comes out of it, they could sort out the details themselves.
 
I'm not sure I support the Ron running as VP. There would be damage to R candidates that support him without recourse.
BUT, If Ron were running as Pres and Gary as VP, then Ron would be in the debates, and that would give R candidates ammo.
IMHO.

Yeah. I don't support pushing Ron into it as VP, only as president.
 
I would only support a RP/GJ ticket. I don't think it would be that helpful to have RP as the VP.
 
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