Another source has come out saying Ron Paul tinkering with 3rd party run.

[ctiger2]

Romney was never meant to win.

Mormon prophecy says he IS supposed to win. Which is it gonna be?

 

[No1butPaul]

Mormon prophecy says he IS supposed to win. Which is it gonna be?

Not to mention, over a billion dollars behind him? If that was the case, talk about burning money!!!

 

[Carlybee]

But it is 100% Ron's choice, and I hope that people don't start bugging him too much to do it if he doesn't want to.
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Agreed but remember the topic of this thread is that there is an insider source implying that Dr.Paul himself is tinkering with the idea. So if true, then apparently he is interested in exploring that rather than riding off into the sunset.

 

[tangent4ronpaul]

Mormon prophecy says he IS supposed to win. Which is it gonna be?

Mormonism is a dynamic religion. Things like prophesy's and teachings are added on the fly to adapt to current conditions. Much as Congress views the Constitution or the RNC views convention rules...

-t

 

[sailingaway]

Not to mention, over a billion dollars behind him? If that was the case, talk about burning money!!!

the people banking backing him just print it. Remember?

Also, this thread is moving towards bashing a faith a number of people here believe in, so let's stop that part.

 

[bbwarfield]

is someone going to record this conference call and post it?

also.... im all for 3rd party Ron run.... think hell win? no.... think hell get 15% and a spot in the debates? try my best!

 

[eleganz]

 

[wgadget]

I don't think you get the urgency of the matter.

ADD - If Romney wins (which I understand you think he has no chance, but that is just your opinion), Sheldon Adelson, the Koch Bros. and Karl Rove will be in charge of this country. Do you think there is any way whatsoever they would let We the People take it back? They will change the laws of the country like they did the rules of the convention to make sure that doesn't happen.



Do you agree they are all evil men? If not, what's the point of my even replying.

AND his Lawyership, the inestimable Mr. Ginsberg.

 

[kathy88]

Some of my fellow Pennsylvanians disappoint me

 

[wgadget]

What would be the point? He wouldn't even have ballot access in a majority of states. It'd be an incredibly haphazard and poorly-organized ordeal if he were to suddenly announce a third-party run.

We're talking LIBERTARIAN, which is on the ballot in all 50 states. Gary Johnson has said he'd step aside.

 

[TheGrinch]

Agreed but remember the topic of this thread is that there is an insider source implying that Dr.Paul himself is tinkering with the idea. So if true, then apparently he is interested in exploring that rather than riding off into the sunset.

If Ron is indeed tinkering with the idea, then I'm all for us letting him know that we stand with him 100% if he thinks this is a route worth pursuing, and will help more than hurt the credibility of our message.

But I don't want for him to just to do this because we want him to... It was different before, that something had to be done to get the liberty message out there, but there could be plenty more repercussions for going ahead third-party after putting folks in place in the republican party.

I just hope that he'll remain mindful of whether this will result in a net gain or loss for liberty, and that's where I'm not really comfortable with people pushing it too hard, while perhaps not considering the big picture. He made a calculated move to go with the republican party, and now we all need to do the same, to decide if we need to throw a hail-mary, or if there are still better ways to move the ball down the field.

 

[sailingaway]

If Ron is indeed tinkering with the idea, then I'm all for us letting him know that we stand with him 100% if he thinks this is a route worth pursuing, and will help more than hurt the credibility of our message.

But I don't want for him to just to do this because we want him to... It was different before, that something had to be done to get the liberty message out there, but there could be plenty more repercussions for going ahead third-party after putting folks in place in the republican party.

I just hope that he'll remain mindful of whether this will result in a net gain or loss for liberty, and that's where I'm not really comfortable with people pushing it too hard, while perhaps not considering the big picture. He made a calculated move to go with the republican party, and now we all need to do the same, to decide if we need to throw a hail-mary, or if there are still better ways to move the ball down the field.

I honestly think it should be in conjunction with a competent lawsuit for fraud and racketeering, naming the states and the RNC and alleging the ballot access laws in total are collusion which for a national, presidential race, disenfranchises individuals who are not interested in the two main parties. Since there are more independents than Republicans right now, I think there is pretty good reason to think a LOT of people feel their interests aren't served by the two main parties yet with ballot and debate access laws, and taxpayer funding of the two major parties, those barriers disenfranchise them. This would also drive home the fraud the RNC perpetrated, and show why it isn't 'sour grapes' for a guy who HAD enough states to be placed into nomination might run when they just changed the rules after the fact to make it not enough.

I'm all for it, in any event.

 

[tangent4ronpaul]

He made a calculated move to go with the republican party, and now we all need to do the same, to decide if we need to throw a hail-mary, or if there are still better ways to move the ball down the field.

Put me in the "fishing with dynamite" faction...

-t

 

[tangent4ronpaul]

I honestly think it should be in conjunction with a competent lawsuit for fraud and racketeering, naming the states and the RNC and alleging the ballot access laws in total are collusion which for a national, presidential race, disenfranchises individuals who are not interested in the two main parties. Since there are more independents than Republicans right now, I think there is pretty good reason to think a LOT of people feel their interests aren't served by the two main parties yet with ballot and debate access laws, and taxpayer funding of the two major parties, those barriers disenfranchise them. This would also drive home the fraud the RNC perpetrated, and show why it isn't 'sour grapes' for a guy who HAD enough states to be placed into nomination might run when they just changed the rules after the fact to make it not enough.

I'm all for it, in any event.

Wonderfully said!

+rep

-t

 

[wgadget]

I honestly think it should be in conjunction with a competent lawsuit for fraud and racketeering, naming the states and the RNC and alleging the ballot access laws in total are collusion which for a national, presidential race, disenfranchises individuals who are not interested in the two main parties. Since there are more independents than Republicans right now, I think there is pretty good reason to think a LOT of people feel their interests aren't served by the two main parties yet with ballot and debate access laws, and taxpayer funding of the two major parties, those barriers disenfranchise them. This would also drive home the fraud the RNC perpetrated, and show why it isn't 'sour grapes' for a guy who HAD enough states to be placed into nomination might run when they just changed the rules after the fact to make it not enough.

I'm all for it, in any event.

Good post, sailing.

As usual, the mantra for understanding the Powers That Be is: FOLLOW THE MONEY.

And Ron's fight is, at its core, with the entire MONEY SYSTEM.

 

[sailingaway]

We're talking LIBERTARIAN, which is on the ballot in all 50 states. Gary Johnson has said he'd step aside.

Or independent and do write in where we can't get on, and maybe just not worry about a couple if there is an issue. We'd be going for the debates, since Ron was polled twice last year against O and MR and both times got above 15% --- once 18% and once 21 or 22%. While that may be different now that people are settling into the blue/red divide, no one else polled against the two majors has gotten over 15% at any point.

 

[wgadget]

From what I understand, it's too late to run as an Independent. And the status of write-ins is questionable...I looked it up on Wiki, and there are "citations needed" and a whole lot of confusing information.

 

[eleganz]

Would it work if GJ's VP resigned and Ron took VP and then GJ stepped aside for the VP to take the lead and GJ taking VP?

Or would the LP have to nominate a new VP?

 

[wgadget]

Why? You might as well burn hundred dollar bills at this point. Ron will not win the presidency. Romney is going to lose, he has zero chance of winning the electoral college. Running 3rd party ties the Paul name to the blame for that loss like Perot or Nader was blamed and sets things back another 8-16 years.

I'd vote for 3rd party run of course, but it makes no political sense at all.

Frankly, looking back at the last year or so, running with the GOP made little political sense.

 

[opal]

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