Another source has come out saying Ron Paul tinkering with 3rd party run.

[69360]

Co-opted or the party is coming around?

I'd vote for RP if he did it, but the chances of a snowstorm in hades are greater.

 

[Carlybee]

Co-opted or the party is coming around?

I'd vote for RP if he did it, but the chances of a snowstorm in hades are greater.

The party coming around? Sure just like they did with the Tea Party. We are talking about the Borg.

 

[Rothbardian Girl]

What would be the point? He wouldn't even have ballot access in a majority of states. It'd be an incredibly haphazard and poorly-organized ordeal if he were to suddenly announce a third-party run.

 

[Carlybee]

It may be a fantasy, but if it's true that he is considering it based on what kind of support he would get, then any true patriot should at least pledge that support. (We will know soon enough if this is a real scenario or not). Ultimately this whole thread is speculation, but as long as we are speculating, let's speculate on the side of REAL liberty, not some watered down version that some are trying to push. At least (if this ends up being the case) those of us who do not wish to compromise our principles would have a real place to put our votes in November if nothing else but to make a statement and keep that puke Romney from winning. If Romney wins, there will be 8 years of him. If Obama wins then at least there is a chance that "some" liberty people might have a shot in Congress in 2014. JMHO.

 

[69360]

The party coming around? Sure just like they did with the Tea Party. We are talking about the Borg.

1 in 10 delegates is a significant faction. Grow that a bit more and they don't have a choice in the matter.

 

[tuggy24g]

Is anyone listening to conference call?

 

[ClydeCoulter]

Is anyone listening to conference call?

I think there are quite a few that will be on the conference call, at 11:00pm ET, 7:00pm Alaska time. See OP for details.

 

[No1butPaul]

If this happens, I think all the money bomb organizers from the primary season should get together and figure out what to do. That would be me, Dusman, Orenbus, Nathanielyao and a bunch of others. We'd all need to work together to fast track this to get Ron the money he needs to launch his run.

It would be great if they could set up a Money Bomb Pledge in advance on Facebook or something, BEFORE the fact. That could really help.

 

[Drex]

If this happens I will be campaigning hard!

 

[69360]

It would be great if they could set up a Money Bomb Pledge in advance on Facebook or something, BEFORE the fact. That could really help.

Why? You might as well burn hundred dollar bills at this point. Ron will not win the presidency. Romney is going to lose, he has zero chance of winning the electoral college. Running 3rd party ties the Paul name to the blame for that loss like Perot or Nader was blamed and sets things back another 8-16 years.

I'd vote for 3rd party run of course, but it makes no political sense at all.

 

[No1butPaul]

Why? You might as well burn hundred dollar bills at this point. Ron will not win the presidency. Romney is going to lose, he has zero chance of winning the electoral college. Running 3rd party ties the Paul name to the blame for that loss like Perot or Nader was blamed and sets things back another 8-16 years.

I'd vote for 3rd party run of course, but it makes no political sense at all.

First, a pledge is just a pledge (it's nothing at all like burning $). Second, I just don't agree with this. Does anyone seriously think the RNC would let Rand have the nomination in 2016 if Romney loses? Look at the money behind Romney ... they will not back Rand Paul. If Romney wins, after 8 years, then Ryan runs. Personally, I don't want to take any chance Romney could win. His heavy-handed tactics at the convention terrify me to think he could be in charge as president with the NDAA provisions as they exist....dark, dark days for America.

 

[69360]

First, a pledge is just a pledge (it's nothing at all like burning $). Second, I just don't agree with this. Does anyone seriously think the RNC would let Rand have the nomination in 2016 if Romney loses? Look at the money behind Romney ... they will not back Rand Paul. If Romney wins, after 8 years, then Ryan runs. Personally, I don't want to take any chance Romney could win. His heavy-handed tactics at the convention terrify me to think he could be in charge as president with the NDAA provisions as they exist....dark, dark days for America.

Romney has zero chance in the electoral college. He is losing. I'd bet everything to my name on that.

Rand is on equal footing right now for '16. If/when Obama starts an unpopular war and the euro/dollar fails, Rand is looking like a winner.

 

[Carlybee]

Romney has zero chance in the electoral college. He is losing. I'd bet everything to my name on that.

Rand is on equal footing right now for '16. If/when Obama starts an unpopular war and the euro/dollar fails, Rand is looking like a winner.

But this thread isn't about Rand. It's about a potential Ron Paul independent run and some of you persist in coming in here and trying to squash all talk of it. We have conceded that it is speculative at best. Why are you trying so hard to stop any discussion of it? This IS the RON Paul forum.

 

[No1butPaul]

Romney has zero chance in the electoral college. He is losing. I'd bet everything to my name on that.

Rand is on equal footing right now for '16. If/when Obama starts an unpopular war and the euro/dollar fails, Rand is looking like a winner.

See, I think the problem is we are debating under completely different assumptions. My assumption is that Ron Paul could WIN THE ELECTION if he runs third-party.

EDIT: I gave up on the GOP, but I will NEVER give up on RON PAUL. NEVER, NEVER, NEVER, NEVER, NEVER, NEVER, NEVER

Changing subject back to: MONEY BOMB PLEDGE ... let's have the money bomb people set this up on Facebook.

Add: "If/when Obama starts an unpopular war" ... we're supposed to just wait for that to happen? OMG Ron Paul already told us if this happens our boys AND girls are going to be drafted. His record on predictions is pretty good I would say.

 

[69360]

But this thread isn't about Rand. It's about a potential Ron Paul independent run and some of you persist in coming in here and trying to squash all talk of it. We have conceded that it is speculative at best. Why are you trying so hard to stop any discussion of it? This IS the RON Paul forum.

I'd vote for it. I know it has no chance of winning, none. It makes no political sense at all and would set everything gained back a generation with the scapegoating. But I'd still vote for.

See, I think the problem is we are debating under completely different assumptions. My assumption is that Ron Paul could WIN THE ELECTION if he runs third-party.

EDIT: I gave up on the GOP, but I will NEVER give up on RON PAUL. NEVER, NEVER, NEVER, NEVER, NEVER, NEVER, NEVER

Changing subject back to: MONEY BOMB PLEDGE ... let's have the money bomb people set this up on Facebook.

I know there is no chance of winning 3rd party. As the GOP nominee it was possible. I'd vote for RP 3rd party, but think it's political suicide.

 

[No1butPaul]

but think it's political suicide.

I don't think you get the urgency of the matter.

ADD - If Romney wins (which I understand you think he has no chance, but that is just your opinion), Sheldon Adelson, the Koch Bros. and Karl Rove will be in charge of this country. Do you think there is any way whatsoever they would let We the People take it back? They will change the laws of the country like they did the rules of the convention to make sure that doesn't happen.

Do you agree they are all evil men? If not, what's the point of my even replying.

 

[69360]

I don't think you get the urgency of the matter.

people say that every election. shit is hitting the fan in the next 4 years. better to let it stick to Obama. Romney was never meant to win.

 

[Carlybee]

I'd vote for it. I know it has no chance of winning, none. It makes no political sense at all and would set everything gained back a generation with the scapegoating. But I'd still vote for.

We are going to get scapegoated anyway. If Romney loses, they will say it's because the Ron Paul people abstained, or wrote in RP or voted for GJ. They already have a built in scapegoat and you can bet they will use it because they are not going to concede that they were unable to sell Romney as a viable candidate.

 

[No1butPaul]

people say that every election. shit is hitting the fan in the next 4 years. better to let it stick to Obama. Romney was never meant to win.

Yeah, you're right. Everything is fine ... everything is normal.

MONEYBOMB PLEDGE!!!

 

[TheGrinch]

I'm not going to get my hopes up,..but if Ron Paul is on a ballot, I will vote for him.

I'm quite sure that millions of other people will also.

This is the correct answer, and I don't think any genuine supporter of Dr. Paul's feels any differently.

But it is 100% Ron's choice, and I hope that people don't start bugging him too much to do it if he doesn't want to.

It was Ron's calculated decision that we could make more headway by running in the republican party (and make no mistake, we have. A third-party run like we're talking about now, wouldn't have had nearly the head of steam without the great exposure to build our numbers with some who might have never heard of him otherwise).

Now it just might with the momentum we've built, and if these sources are true, then it sounds like Ron is pondering the same thing.... But he's smart and experienced enough with this to be able to make a good call on his own if he thinks it's worth it or not.

No doubt we will all be behind him 100% if he does, but please, I hope folks don't press this issue if he doesn't, even if it's just because he wants to enjoy his well-deserved retirement.