Another Dangerous Rush to Judgment in Syria

[JK/SEA]

So if a nuke goes off in Manhattan are you going to hold Trump responsible?

yes.

its the 'chain of command' doctrine.

 

[jllundqu]

guilt by association. Are you telling me that Syria doesn't have a stockpile of this stuff?..

when you assume a leadership position, you take the bad with the good, so in my view, he may have to suffer the consequences for being a lame ass leader.

Wow.

So by your rationale, we should illegally and unconstitutionally invade Syria and depose it's lawful leader simply because it has been alleged by lying warhawks and western propaganda mouthpieces that 'we think Assad used chemical weapons' and potentially starting World War 3 in the process because Assad is "a lame ass leader."

Got it. Good to know where you stand on Ron and Rand Paul's foreign policy positions.

 

[Origanalist]

yes.

its the 'chain of command' doctrine.

And what if nobody tries to remove him and the military backs him? Should Russia take him out?

 

[jllundqu]

yes.

its the 'chain of command' doctrine.

If you ever served in the Military, you would know how ridiculous you sound

 

[JK/SEA]

And what if nobody tries to remove him and the military backs him? Should Russia take him out?

a nuke in manhatten ?...i think we would have more to worry about then taking out the prez.

 

[jllundqu]

well, until Assad proves he's the 'innocent' good leader you espouse, i will keep him as the instigator of this attack.

his watch.

i think we're past playing games over this type of attack.

I was sent to war in Iraq because of assholes like you that swallowed obvious war propaganda. Pull your head out of your ass and think for yourself. Or maybe you should just jump over to National Review or volunteer for Marco Rubio... they seem to follow your unconstitutional and irrational pattern of thought.

 

[JK/SEA]

If you ever served in the Military, you would know how ridiculous you sound

military doesn't recognize chain of command?...thats a new one....lol

 

[CPUd]

I agree with Thomas Massie that there are still some unanswered questions:

 

[JK/SEA]

I was sent to war in Iraq because of assholes like you that swallowed obvious war propaganda. Pull your head out of your ass and think for yourself. Or maybe you should just jump over to National Review or volunteer for Marco Rubio... they seem to follow your unconstitutional and irrational pattern of thought.

you served in the military?...thanks for your service.

 

[jllundqu]

well, until Assad proves he's the 'innocent' good leader you espouse, i will keep him as the instigator of this attack.

his watch.

i think we're past playing games over this type of attack.

Did I say he was a good and innocent leader? Fuck no. His country is plagued by war and he is culpable for his crimes... but Chemical weapons is bullshit war propaganda and you know it.

 

[Origanalist]

a nuke in manhatten ?...i think we would have more to worry about then taking out the prez.

You're dancing around the point, say chemical weapons instead of a nuke. I assume we have some stashed somewhere.

 

[JK/SEA]

Did I say he was a good and innocent leader? Fuck no. His country is plagued by war and he is culpable for his crimes... but Chemical weapons is bullshit war propaganda and you know it.

source?

 

[jllundqu]

source?

http://dailycaller.com/2017/04/05/it-makes-no-sense-ron-paul-thinks-syrian-chemical-attack-was-a-false-flag-video/

Ron Paul claimed on Wednesday’s broadcast of “The Liberty Report” that all signs point toward Tuesday’s chemical attack in Syria being a false flag operation.

“Before this episode of possible gas exposure and who did what, things were going along reasonably well for the conditions,” the former Texas congressman stated. “Trump said let the Syrians decide who should run their country, and peace talks were making out, and Al Qaeda and ISIS were on the run.”

“It looks like, maybe, somebody didn’t like that so there had to be an episode, and the blame now is we can’t let that happen because it looks like it might benefit Assad.”

“It’s not so easy though is it? What happened four years ago in 2013, you know, this whole thing about crossing the red line?” he posed. “Ever since then, the neocons have been yelling and screaming, a part of the administration has been yelling and screaming about Assad using poison gas.”

“It was never proven in fact,” agreed Ron Paul Institute for Peace and Prosperity executive director Daniel McAdams. “U.N. official Carla Del Ponte said it was most likely done by the rebels.”

“It makes no sense, even if you were totally separate from this and take no sides of this and you were just an analyst, it doesn’t make sense for Assad under these conditions to all of the sudden use poison gasses,” Paul continued. “I think it’s zero chance that he would have done this deliberately.”

 

[JK/SEA]

You're dancing around the point, say chemical weapons instead of a nuke. I assume we have some stashed somewhere.

if 'someone' in this country, say General Ripper, activated 55 gal. drums of sarin gas in Seattle, i would say the President and his cabinet fucked up somewhere, as there are redundantcies built in to prevent this from happening, but shit happens. The military is overseen by civilians, so yes, the buck stops at the top.

 

[JK/SEA]

http://dailycaller.com/2017/04/05/it-makes-no-sense-ron-paul-thinks-syrian-chemical-attack-was-a-false-flag-video/

false flags are always on the table, and Ron is entitled to his opinion.

 

[Origanalist]

if 'someone' in this country, say General Ripper, activated 55 gal. drums of sarin gas in Seattle, i would say the President and his cabinet fucked up somewhere, as there are redundantcy's built in to prevent this from happening, but shit happens. The military is overseen by civilians, so yes, the buck stops at the top.

So, continuing on with my original point, would you support Russia or the UN deposing him if the military backed him and be refused to step down? With force?

 

[juleswin]

So if a nuke goes off in Manhattan are you going to hold Trump responsible?

He is essentially blaming Assad for not having full control of what is happened in a territory outside his control. Heck the US with all its spying technology is not in full control of everything that is happening in the territory they control and they are not even in a real war. But hey, lets all blame Assad for everything while he is trying to put out a fire started by outside forces.

Posts like the one you replied to is the reason why I think there is no hope for liberty lovers in this world. Idiotic mentality you are seeing on this thread is not the exception, it is actually the norm in the world. The moment you realize that you are surrounded on all sides by idiots who should know better is the moment when depression sets in.

God help us all

 

[JK/SEA]

So, continuing on with my original point, would you support Russia or the UN deposing him if the military backed him and be refused to step down? With force?

i don't answer hypotheticals, but if your going to argue that this gas attack didn't happen, or that somehow Assad is innocent, or some other fearful argument that getting involved will somehow destroy liberty, then you lost me friend.

i'm hungrey. Going to granite to get some chicken.

 

[parocks]

This is Ron Paul Forums.

Ron Paul is calling this a false flag.

And called it a false flag shortly after it happened. There's no reason at all for Assad to have done this.

Why is there a debate here?

 

[juleswin]

This is Ron Paul Forums.

Ron Paul is calling this a false flag.

And called it a false flag shortly after it happened. There's no reason at all for Assad to have done this.

Why is there a debate here?

The site was inspired by Ron Paul but that doesn't mean everybody should be in lockstep with him. I would be saying the same thing regardless of what Ron Paul things. I does help that he agrees with me but it is not a strong selling point.