And so the character assasination of Cliven Bundy Begins!!!!!

[Carlybee]

Have a mass sensitivity training session at the ranch and move on. Be sure to have cameras. We get nuance..not everyone does nor will they. All they will hear is that Bundy thinks Negroes should still be picking cotton.

 

[Lucille]

"Tell us about your experiences in Watts during riots there?" Who knows, we still don't have the full context, do we?

12:21: "There's one thing that's on my mind though through this whole thing, especially last night. You look around and we're all basically just white people. Where is our colored brothers, where's our Mexican brothers, where's our Chinese brothers? They're just as much Americans as we are, and they're not with us. If they're not with us, they're going to be against us."

And then he started talking about the Watts riots.

 

[phill4paul]

If they're not with us, they're going to be against us."

I'll not hold his vote for GWB against him.

 

[muh_roads]

It really sucks he said this since we're always being painted as racists by liberals.

 

[Anti Federalist]

I seem to recall the struggle had to do something with citizens being taxed with having no political representation nor chance to vote on such. What's your revolution against, an elected government trying to enforce its own laws after it has gone through the legal process? In years, not days?

Regulation without Representation.

Congress grants these alphabet soup agencies with regulatory authority that has force of law, but is never voted on or approved by any body of elected representatives.

 

[CPUd]

wow this story is front page everywhere.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Lesson Learned.

When talking to cops or government media organs.

SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!

 

[Anti Federalist]

wow this story is front page everywhere.

Of course it is.

 

[Pericles]

Lesson Learned.

When talking to cops or government media party organs.

SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!

FIFY

 

[angelatc]

Lesson Learned.

When talking to cops or government media organs.

SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!

Absolutely.

 

[RonPaulMall]

It really sucks he said this since we're always being painted as racists by liberals.

You need to accept the fact that no matter what we do the media will paint us as racists. If you think what they are doing to Bundy is bad, just wait till Rand wins the nomination and watch what they do to him. That the Feds are trying to turn a dispute about turtles and government abuse in to a story about black people shows how desperate and weak they are.

 

[phill4paul]

wow this story is front page everywhere.

Anything you say can, and will, be used against you in the court of public opinion.

 

[ZENemy]

From the Bundy families page.

Comments that were cherry picked out of an interview to make him sound racist . Anyone how can spend a monet to see the whole intervew and the truth .. here it is .. he was comparing todays government slavery over blacks vs the cotton picking days slavery .. at it is very true ..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agXns-W60MI

 

[ZENemy]

You need to accept the fact that no matter what we do the media will paint us as racists. If you think what they are doing to Bundy is bad, just wait till Rand wins the nomination and watch what they do to him. That the Feds are trying to turn a dispute about turtles and government abuse in to a story about black people shows how desperate and weak they are.

Yup, No Confidence 2016!

Personal Responsibility 2016!

No more dickhead rulers 2016!



Sorry, I get excited.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Well, my support is still here.

If OathKeepers continues to support him, I will support them, with cash.

Fuck it all.

 

[HOLLYWOOD]

Gone for a day and the shit hits the fan... I knew something was wrong when MSNBC had this quote at the bottom of the screen with Alex Wagner:

"Cliven Bundy confirms what many long suspected: He is a racist extra from the movie Blazing Saddles."

He's a Mormon rancher who lives in a remote area. I don't expect him to be a wordsmith. With that said, he should have hired a PR guy as soon as the BLM left.

This was brought up very early in the other Bundy Ranch/BLM threads... We all suggested he should have a spokes person or PR coaches on site. I 'fuck-in-guarantee-you'... Marxist-Progressive media were licking their chops the first moment they heard Cliven Bundy and his family ever speak in these interviews, and then, the gears started rolling to set this guy up, set him up big. The left and Marxists immediately went to work on how to discredit the entire liberty movement that latched onto this as violations of individual rights and Harry Reid's 'Leftist Bootlickers' I bet, worked on a dozen plans to destroy this person, the family ranch, and anybody defending them for Individual/Constitutional rights.

Jason Bullock is on the phone with Alex Jones right now from the Bundy Ranch. He is part of the security for Mr. Bundy. He has been at the ranch on and off for two weeks and now is definitely staying for the long haul. He said one of the reasons he came out in support of Mr. Bundy was because of the divide and conquer that goes on and he is sick of it. This is why he is standing in solidarity with the Bundy Family and any family who is being railroaded by the feds.
Oh I forgot to mention--he is black.

BINGO! Now where have I heard that before...

Same type of character assassination he did to Debra Medina.

How about that 12 year old boy masquerading as a news journalist on MSNBC? Remember when Rand won the election, few days latter Rachel Maddow had the whole prepped racial script ready to go on a unsuspecting Rand Paul. You cannot give them the ammo and fall into THEIR TRAP.

It really sucks he said this since we're always being painted as racists by liberals.

Amazing how the collectivist pact thinks and hasn't changed over the millennia... my favorite is getting the towns people pitchforks and torches to attack the evil monster in the castle. Anything cleverly planned can bring clueless society to believe in it, and Marxist corporate media does that 24/7 on their "programming".

 

[Danke]

I was going say, maybe Harry Reid knew something about this fellow the rest of us didn't. He may be devious but he's not stupid.

I'll be honest I've never even heard of Cliven until this month. Supposedly this dispute has been going since 1993. That's 20 years and three presidents ago! Why wasn't he a cause celebre before then? The question is no different today as it was back then, is it right for the Feds to own so much land and how does it affect those who wish to use it? And yet that's not what's being discussed is it? It's all about wanna-be macho men thinking how cool it is to be a "rebel" (especially when a Democrat is President. When it's a Republican they're law-abiding Patriots) and joining this supposed "cause" when no one cared or concerned themselves about what he was going through for 21 years until the Feds showed up to actually enforce the law and scene was created. They puffed him up to be a hero and now since he's been declared a bigot his "friends" whether Hannity or Fox or the National Review won't be there to pump in the hot air anymore and he'll deflate pretty quickly. And then he'll wonder where everyone went. It will pretty sad and the Feds will round up his cattle when the TV cameras are all gone.

So let's cut to f'ing chase: Either you believe in the rule of law or you don't. You may not like the law, you challenge it in court or get people in government who will help to change it. But it doesn't remove it. So there you are. Now if you want to be an anarchist, that's fine. But there consequences for doing so: death, prison or complete isolation from society. There's no political outcome to it because the politics does not support armed conflict. Never has, never will and if you believed it you wouldn't be at RPF now would you? You'd be in your bunker preparing for the standoff. And I'm tired of seeing the politics being tarnished by bigots and buffoons. A man can stand up to the Powers that Be but in this country he has to do so either in the courtroom or the ballot box, not at the barricades. Again, you may not like it but that's the way it is. Otherwise, just don't give a damn anymore. Go away and leave it behind and do something else because you can't change it because nobody wants it to change. If they did, well don't you think we'd have another internal war by now?, another revolution? When did that ever take place? No. Helping Cliven honestly would have meant changing law so these disputes don't take place anymore. Instead people would rather help him dishonestly which will only lead to his eventual downfall.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

12:21: "There's one thing that's on my mind though through this whole thing, especially last night. You look around and we're all basically just white people. Where is our colored brothers, where's our Mexican brothers, where's our Chinese brothers? They're just as much Americans as we are, and they're not with us. If they're not with us, they're going to be against us."

And then he started talking about the Watts riots.

Thank you! More context.

Like many old farmers, they like to talk about the great depression. People his age remember living like that, and will never forget it. Right before the 9:00 minute:

Bundy: "There's no reason we should be in a depression. We're, everyone of us, is anxious to get out and work. Our young people don't even know how to work, because they haven't had the opportunity. There's nobody needing to be on welfare in this land, we've got a job for everybody."

He then talked about abortion, from a non-racial and religious perspective. So it appears that jobs, welfare and abortion were all part of his monologue (without reference to race) before the "controversial" part.

 

[pcosmar]

Anything you say can, and will, be used against you in the court of public opinion.

And what they can't take out of context they will make up out of thin air,, sort of like the money.

 

[Lucille]

It reminds me of what Phil Robertson said. He's still got a show!

http://www.lewrockwell.com/2013/12/thomas-dilorenzo/a-lying-smear-of-phil-robertson/

“I never, with my eyes, saw the mistreatment of any black person. Not once. Where we lived was all farmers. The blacks worked for the farmers. I hoed cotton with them. I’m with the blacks, because we’re white trash. We’re going across the field . . . They’re singing and happy. I never heard one of them, one black person, say “’I tell you what: Those doggone white people’ – not a word! . . . . Pre-entitlement, pre-welfare, you say: Were they happy? They were godly; they were happy; no one was crying the blues”