And down come the monuments to the Confederacy....

[Anti Federalist]

LOL

Because this nation has no problems that can't be solved by beating a dead white horse.

Hahahahaha!

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to acptulsa again.

Somebody cover me please, that was precious.

 

[enhanced_deficit]

Trump is guilty of exploiting racial biases and to an extent even of cultivating it... taking a page from last DGP's regime masters. But many of his critics in media are blatant hypocrites and their varnished lukewarm practical racism sustained ffor decades has so far proven to be far more deadly for humanity.

Vast majority of media owners' employees are not asking important questions that would expose past and present violent racism/slavery/oppression against humans of different races by focussing narrowly on more entertaining battle of symbols, such questions need to be raised still. There also seems to be complete rejection of the notion that there may be many Americans who are not racist and oppose removal of all controversial historic statues. And that there could be violent racism enablers on "many sides".

1. How many of the so called "antifa" supported US taxpeyrs funded removal of Saddam's Statue in Iraq and violent militant spreading of our freedom/racial equality values to Iraq, Libya, Syria that has killed/maimed/displaced millions of people of different races?

2. How many of the "antifa" accepted/tolerated/remained silent in thr face of drone ganastaism of recent years that killed thousands of children (including many underage children) of other races?

At least there was some principled consistency visible when some 1960s antifascists like boxer Ali went to prison for refusing to to join freedom spreading to people of Vietnam.

3. How many of the "antifa" today view disgraced DGP as a political slave of violent racist war mongering lobbies?
How many of them support removing any remaining statues of DGP in the US?
Or they will remain silent now and start that drive a century later on first come-first serve basis of justice delayed?



4. How many of "antifa" believe that supporting ISIS is a deeply racist strategy?






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Do you believe there is widespread political slavery in the US election system?

Let's remove symbols of past slavery AND current forms of slavery.

Would any remaining statues of violent racial lobbies' political slaves would have to go too under such an abundantly free regime?

Barack Obama statue removed from Jakarta park after protests
The Telegraph

Did antifa support or oppose Obama?

Police have returned a life-size statue of President Barack Obama that went missing from its owner's northeastern Pennsylvania porch and was found a few days later reclining on a nearby park bench with a six-pack of Twisted Tea

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Hypocrisy: Neocon McCain, Graham support Kissinger but claim to opposes racists

Noecon Henry Kissinger supports ISIS

Movement to remove all historic symbols of slavery gains momentun

 

[acptulsa]

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You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to acptulsa again.

Somebody cover me please, that was precious.

Well, I'm truly pleased that you liked it, anyway.

 

[phill4paul]

Now they go after 'sacred ground' monuments far removed from courthouse lawns.

Lawmakers urge removal of Robert E. Lee statue at Antietam

Amid the national firestorm over Civil War monuments, Maryland lawmakers are pressing the National Park Service to remove a statue of Robert E. Lee that some view as an egregious attempt to sanitize Confederate history.

And key House Democrats are threatening legislation if the Park Service won’t act on its own to take down the statue at Antietam National Battlefield, site of the bloodiest single-day battle in U.S. history.

“The history of this piece, which now resides on this sacred ground, certainly makes it clear it was recently erected by a private citizen out of pro-Confederacy enthusiasm and not to provide historical context or under the direction of a battlefield historian,” said Democratic Rep. John Delaney, whose congressional district includes Sharpsburg, where the 1862 battle took place. “I don’t think that taxpayer resources should serve that end.”

The congressman said the statue “should be taken down” and vowed to “review what legislative proposals already exist in that regard and proceed accordingly.”

Added House Democratic Whip Steny Hoyer, dean of the Maryland congressional delegation: “Congress must exhaust all legislative options and act to remove these statues where appropriate.”

Maryland's two Democratic senators, Ben Cardin and Chris Van Hollen, have reached out to the Congressional Research Service and the Park Service for more information about the Lee statue, according to Cardin spokeswoman Sue Walitsky. Cardin voiced support this week for separate efforts in Baltimore to remove Confederate statues in the city.

Lawmakers and historians say the Lee statue at Antietam is not a piece of history but a recent attempt by an eccentric Maryland millionaire, William F. Chaney, to rewrite Confederate history and Lee's own views.

Chaney outbid the Park Service for land adjacent to Antietam, and in 2003 erected a giant statue of Lee sitting atop his horse. Chaney later sold the land to the federal government — including the statue of Lee, who he claimed was his ancestor, complete with a plaque offering a whitewashed take on the Confederate commander’s views.

Lee “was personally against secession and slavery,” the plaque reads, “but decided his duty was to fight for his home and the universal right of every people to self-determination.”

While Lee wrote an 1861 letter expressing opposition to secession, he clearly supported it with his actions. He turned down an offer to lead Union troops and instead joined the Confederacy, becoming the chief military commander in a four-year rebellion that would claim more American lives than any war before or since.

(The plaque 'whitewashes' absolutely nothing. Those were his views. Period. He fought for his home state because in those days people had greater loyalty to their State than they did to the Union and he did not wish to fight against his neighbors. The Union, after all, was made up of these several states and were supposed to be limited in it's scope by them. P4P)

Lee's personal views on slavery are still debated fiercely. Defenders of Lee often point to a letter he wrote his wife calling slavery a "moral & political evil." Lee added, though, that slavery was "a greater evil to the white man than to the black race.” He ordered the beatings of his own slaves, some of whom he freed in 1862. Lee also oversaw a Confederate army that captured escaped slaves and put them to work or returned them to their former masters. Confederate commanders under Lee treated black prisoners of war with unique cruelty, refusing to consider them legitimate Union soldiers and sometimes executing them on the spot.

Chaney could not be reached for comment. In 2003, he told The Washington Times he erected the statue to correct what he saw as an imbalance between Union and Confederate statues at Antietam. There are 96 monuments on Park Service property there, the vast majority of which honor the Union.

“It represents all the Southern boys who fought on the bloodiest day in American history,” Chaney said at the time. “They need to be represented, too.”

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/19/lawmakers-urge-removal-robert-e-lee-antietam-241788

 

[Anti Federalist]

Lee added, though, that slavery was "a greater evil to the white man than to the black race.”

Hard to argue with that, in retrospect.

 

[phill4paul]

Hard to argue with that, in retrospect.

Lee was a forward thinking man for his time period. He had the great respect of his contemporaries on the side of the North and South. This excoriation of him in the media and in education makes exactly my point when I say "This is nothing other than a revision of history that going on."

 

[Anti Federalist]

Lee was a forward thinking man for his time period. He had the great respect of his contemporaries on the side of the North and South. This excoriation of him in the media and in education makes exactly my point when I say "This is nothing other than a revision of history that going on."

Even worse than a "revision" it's ramping up into wholesale destruction and "memory holing" of giant portions of it.

 

[Ender]

Lee was a forward thinking man for his time period. He had the great respect of his contemporaries on the side of the North and South. This excoriation of him in the media and in education makes exactly my point when I say "This is nothing other than a revision of history that going on."

History is always written by the winners.

Most Americans have no real clue of any real US history.

The Civil War was about slavery
The North had no slaves
Only blacks were slaves
Lincoln freed the slaves
Indians were savages
Columbus discovered America
WWI was because Germany was the bad guy
And so on and so forth
Etc, etc, etc.........

 

[Ender]

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Covered!

 

[phill4paul]

Vandals BEHEAD Confederate soldier statue in Ohio cemetery

A Confederate soldier statue in an Ohio cemetery was beheaded by vandals early Tuesday.

Police say the monument of a solider at Camp Chase Confederate Cemetery in Columbus had its head knocked off and stolen.

The vandals appeared to have climbed on an arched memorial and toppled the statue atop the monument.

The soldier's head and hat were knocked off and police reported the vandals took the head but left the hat.
Police say the vandalism occurred at the cemetery where around 2,000 soldiers are buried.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...er-statue-beheaded-vandals.html#ixzz4qakQspQE
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[phill4paul]

Man arrested on suspicion of bomb plot to destroy Confederate statue

Police have charged 25-year-old Andrew Schneck with attempting to maliciously damage property

A 25-year-old man has been arrested in Houston for allegedly attempting to plant a bomb near a local Confederate monument.

The Houston FBI announced on Monday that they had arrested Andrew Schneck in connection with an incident in front of the General Richard Dowling Monument in Hermann Park two days before.

Mr Schneck is believed to have been carrying items capable of producing a viable explosive device. He has been charged with attempting to maliciously damage or destroy property.

Officials say a Houston park ranger caught Mr Schneck kneeling near the statue of the Confederate general on Saturday. Prosecutors claim he was carrying two boxes with duct tape and wires, and a bottle with liquid that could be used to make explosives.

Officials conducted a raid on a Houston home on Sunday, bringing in tools often used to handle homemade bombs. In a press conference on Monday, police confirmed they were attempting to recover "significant hazardous materials".

Sources told local news station KPRC2 that authorities had searched the same house four years before, looking for materials that could be used to make nerve gas or tear gas. Less than a year later, Mr Shneck, who lived in the house with his parents, was convicted for improper storage of explosive material. He was sentenced to five years of probation and a $159,000 fine.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...an-arrested-police-hermann-park-a7905646.html

 

[jmdrake]

Dang,Goodwin's Law came into effect pretty quick last night, didn't it? Well done, comrade.

All that shows is your ignorance of Goodwin's Law. It doesn't apply when the subject at hand is nazis. And the subject at hand is neo nazis protesting about a confederate statue. You lost the internet today buddy.

 

[William Tell]

All that shows is your ignorance of Goodwin's Law. It doesn't apply when the subject at hand is nazis. And the subject at hand is neo nazis protesting about a confederate statue. You lost the internet today buddy.

What is Goodwin's law?

 

[devil21]

What is Goodwin's law?

Godwin

 

[liveandletlive]

take Tecumseh down before Lee. He was a war criminal IMO.

 

[Swordsmyth]

take Tecumseh down before Lee. He was a war criminal IMO.

Do you mean William Tecumseh Sherman? OR Tecumseh?

 

[jmdrake]

What is Goodwin's law?

Godwin

Sorry for the misspelling. heavenlyboy rubbed off on me. :o

 

[jmdrake]

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[Raginfridus]

Hey, why do the good looking monuments always fall first, and not the post-modern-looking sheeyte nobody likes? (Nathan Bedford Forrest shot in the leg, his dentures popping out)

 

[Raginfridus]

Thought : could the monuments being targeted by vandals be insured? Could damaged monument policies doled to the fed/state/Uni's be links in a bribe loop? We won't need to upkeep the monuments either, if they're completely taken down. This is one of the way mafia bosses bought politicians.

Reminds me of a story I read a while ago. There was a company w/ a terrorism policy that rented space in WTC. There never was a criminal investigation, the insurance provider took their claim to court, but the judge dismissed the case and the company got their policy.