Analysis of Ron Paul Progress Video

[me3]

I think with 10 months more media blackout wont matter. He would be in the debates or there would be hell to pay.

15% to get into debates. You have to be polling at better than 15% nationally. We can't even pull a consistent 15% in the GOP.

Not this time it won't be a waste of money. We'll make a mockery of the two-party system whoever we're against. Think of the ammo we have on Romney, Obama and Hillary.

By the end of 9 months, we'll have educated half of America about our rotten system.

Great so we make a mockery, but they still hold office.

What is it with the lemming complex? People wanting to throw themselves off cliffs to make a point?

This is the foundation stone for the greatest opportunity in many of our lifetimes. Don't piss it away by undermining all of the work that has been done in the last 12 months, and 20 years of Dr. Paul's time as a Republican.

 

[mysticgeek]

I Am In!

Ron basically spells it out...'It's about the message'! If the money keeps coming he will keep going...this is his life's work and will become ours as well. If the republican party doesn't take him...there is no reason to stop. We will change this countries dialogue one way or another...we must change the ship's(USA) course.

I agree with this 100% ... I love how he talked about how he truly believes this is a revolution! I am in it until the end of this election ... and no matter what happens ... I will be more into the revolution moving forward after!!!

 

[noztnac]

15% to get into debates. You have to be polling at better than 15% nationally. We can't even pull a consistent 15% in the GOP.





Great so we make a mockery, but they still hold office.

What is it with the lemming complex? People wanting to throw themselves off cliffs to make a point?

This is the foundation stone for the greatest opportunity in many of our lifetimes. Don't piss it away by undermining all of the work that has been done in the last 12 months, and 20 years of Dr. Paul's time as a Republican.

It's a lot easier to pull 15% outside the GOP given RP's stance against the war.
Screw Republicans. Ron Paul is a Libertarian. Time to jump off the sinking ship.

 

[me3]

It's a lot easier to pull 15% outside the GOP given RP's stance against the war.

So you're saying that you are sure he will meet the national requirements to be in the debates?

Screw Republicans. Ron Paul is a Libertarian.

Ron Paul is a "libertarian" not a "Libertarian". The Libertarians can't get their act together, it's a going nowhere party.

Time to jump off the sinking ship.

No vision. Plug the holes, throw off the stowaways and take over the ship. Abandoning the GOP for the Libertarian party is like trading in the opportunity to command an Aircraft Carrier for a lifeboat.

It's irrelevant anyways. Most of the fad supporters will be gone in 12 months. People who want to make a real difference are sucking it up, and doing what it is going to take to turn this around. They're licking their chops at the RNC, where we're going to at worst dictate party platform, and the 2012 and 2016 elections.

 

[ronpaul4pres]

Most of the fad supporters will be gone in 12 months. People who want to make a real difference are sucking it up, and doing what it is going to take to turn this around. They're licking their chops at the RNC, where we're going to at worst dictate party platform, and the 2012 and 2016 elections.

I especially like the idea of continuing our movement beyond Ron Paul and this election, but I see no problem jumping party lines to try as hard as we can to get him elected as President.

 

[Silverback]

Come on people, try to think strategically.

Ron has no intention of running third party, that's what he keeps saying and that's what he means.

He also refuses to rule a third party run out.

He's got the GOP by the short hairs and everybody knows it, the establishment is terrified of an independent Dr. Paul, and our movement will have a lot of leverage at the convention, when the platform, the appointments, maybe even the Vice presidency is decided. The nomination itself may be up for grabs if we can win five states. Ron wasn't hinting at a third party run in FL, he was throwing down the gauntlet to the GOP establishment, either find a way to accomodate the revolution or face irrelevency.

This isn't about Ron, remember? Not to Ron anyway. This is about freedom, liberty, the future of the Republican party or a new party if the GOP insists on self destructing.

 

[Harry96]

I'm getting to where I wish I had a button on my keyboard that could deliver an electric shock to anyone who keeps bringing up a third party run. NO THIRD PARTY CANDIDATE HAS EVER BEEN ELECTED PRESIDENT IN ALL OF AMERICAN HISTORY!!! What part of that do you not understand? The odds are overwhelming that he won't even be able to influence the major parties that way; if the media blackout winds up being successful at keeping him from being a contender for the GOP nomination, when he's a sitting Congressman who has raised all of this money and been in every debate, what in the world makes you think he could overcome the same media blackout as a third party candidate? That's ludicrous. The media will have every reason in the world to pay even less attention to him as a third party candidate than they do now. Stop bringing this up already. It's stupid, and he has said repeatedly that he has no plans to do it.

My bet is there will be a brokered convention between McCain, Romney and Paul. And I think he'll have a real shot in that environment.

 

[jdmetz]

It's a lot easier to pull 15% outside the GOP given RP's stance against the war.
Screw Republicans. Ron Paul is a Libertarian. Time to jump off the sinking ship.

What? Any Democrat who would vote for Ron Paul would have been voting for Kucinich, and he was only pulling 1-2% nationally. I don't see the Democratic party as being fertile grounds for Ron Paul to get voters (well, maybe if Hillary is their nominee).

 

[Sauron]

he was throwing down the gauntlet to the GOP establishment, either find a way to accomodate the revolution or face irrelevency

That's the crux of the situation.

 

[the_bee]

Let’s make it simple

Let’s make it simple ….. This is what he said.

I am willing, able and ready to go all the way if you are ….obviously without your support I can not.
So never stop. never ever stop even if we don’t get the nomination never ever stop. Keep going forever.

 

[ronpaul4pres]

NO THIRD PARTY CANDIDATE HAS EVER BEEN ELECTED PRESIDENT IN ALL OF AMERICAN HISTORY!!!

Just because it never happened doesn't mean it never will.

But, the rest of your post is fairly accurate, so I will say this: let's see where we are in May and re-evaluate at that time. Right now, it's GOP nomination or bust!

 

[AlexMerced]

Just support the doctor as best you can, and bring recruits and friends.

 

[Tronchaser]

People, we ALL know that whatever route the good doctor takes, we WILL support him. I think we can all agree on that.

However, Me3 is correct in saying that we have an incredible oppurtunity here to take over the GOP. I myself, who have never been involved in any kind of political activity (other than voting), am going to the precinct meetings on the 29th. The counbty GOP head said I will be the precinct chairman which is an automatic delegate to the county convention. The GOP is SO ripe for us to pick it.

I hope all of you are doing the same! I know there are a LOT of precinct captains (for Ron Paul, not GOP) in my county that are planning on doing the same. It will be HELLA fun to meet up with them at the county convention KNOWING what we know and what we are doing, and the direction we are taking.

This is no small undertaking, and will take years of grunt political work. I'm commited to do it in the name of liberty, and freedom.

Are you?

 

[Crickett]

Don't really see the difference..he gets no respect as a Republican, why would a 3rd Party change that??

 

[manny]

Whatever might happen, can we please concentrate on winning the Republican primary.

Stop insulting Republicans. It is the party Ron has been in since before most of us were born and to which he has devoted his political life. In fact he often says on national TV "I'm the most Republican guy running". Can't believe it needs saying but here goes: Insulting Republicans will not make them vote for us.

Average Republicans voted for Bush when his rhetoric was tax cutting and non-interventionism. Average Republicans voted for Reagan when his rhetoric was tax cutting in an explicitly libertarian style. I know these two didn't live up to the promise but most people vote on gut instinct. They thought they were voting for real Republicans.

Go read on Free Republic - one by one they're waking up to the fact that, especially with Fred gone, Ron is the only conservative left. We just need to nudge them that little bit - believe me most do not want to vote for McCain. We will not nudge them by calling them idiots.

I know it's lots of fun but can we please drop the 3rd party theories and concetrate on the thing Ron has asked us to do - winning the Republican nomination? He's up against a guy who changes his mind every 6 months, a NY liberal gun grabber, a guy who wants a 100year war in Iraq and another who is a religious socialist. The average Republicans have not disappeared. So - lots of them supported the war. They were told it was patriotic. They're not our enemies. Reach out to them, educate them. We can do it. Ron is an incredible candidate, with an intellect and record the others would kill for. We just have to push. Clearly Ron's staking it on Feb 5th - so now is the time to really step on the gas since the other campaigns are dying. Now is not the time to jump ship to parties that regularly get less than 1% of national votes.

 

[Drea]

Come on people, try to think strategically.

Ron has no intention of running third party, that's what he keeps saying and that's what he means.

He also refuses to rule a third party run out.

He's got the GOP by the short hairs and everybody knows it, the establishment is terrified of an independent Dr. Paul, and our movement will have a lot of leverage at the convention, when the platform, the appointments, maybe even the Vice presidency is decided. The nomination itself may be up for grabs if we can win five states. Ron wasn't hinting at a third party run in FL, he was throwing down the gauntlet to the GOP establishment, either find a way to accomodate the revolution or face irrelevency.

This isn't about Ron, remember? Not to Ron anyway. This is about freedom, liberty, the future of the Republican party or a new party if the GOP insists on self destructing.

QFT! (quoted for truth and quite f'n true!)

He even said in the debate that they should be afraid of 3rd party run.

Drea

 

[Rede]

"That's why I'm not ruling out ANYTHING..."

RP is trying to send us a message, folks. This is the second time in a week (the first at the FL debate) that RP has dropped strong hints about an independent run.

Just curious, but what message was he sending when he was asked "if you don't get the Republican nomination you're out?" and responded "That's right."? I think you're spreading poor information and it isn't helping.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=T6hZfxsJ4lQ
(7min mark or so)

I think what Ron wants to do is make sure they treat him fairly, out of fear he'll drop out and run as a third party if they mistreat him too much. Who knows where too much is though...

 

[Staupostek]

Average Republicans voted for Reagan when his rhetoric was tax cutting in an explicitly libertarian style.

Just remember, nobody gave Reagan a chance in 1976, and he lost. But the message kept spreading and in 1980 he won big. It's the message that is growing and Dr. Paul is the current preacher of it. If we win this year, great. If not, there is not need to get depressed, quit fighting, and go home. Keep pushing the message and that will be what carries Ron Paul to the White House or some of his supporters into seats in Congress or even many supporters into GOP positions at the state and local level. This way we will be ready next time around when we finally win or just add to our slate of elected officials who support our message.

 

[Opiner]

It is really irrelevant what Dr. Paul does his support will not stop based on the limited selection of candidates. I mean it is night and day between Dr. Ron Paul and the other candidates. However, when people are so mad that Dr. Ron Paul didn't win and he comes out and says fourth place is not bad then it might be hard to digest. If you truly believe in your message and you won by for example 99 votes and one vote went to the other candidate you would be unhappy about not reaching that one person and convincing him.

 

[VonBek2000]

Actually Lincoln was elected in a race with 4 parties vying for the office. He was part of the new party the Republicans.