Analysis of Ron Paul Progress Video

[RonRules]

O! won't look stupid during a debate because the debates are about image and not policy. BO would clean Paul's clock unless Paul learns how to talk like a modern day presidential candidate.

I've listened to several of Obama's speeches and yesterdays's SC victory speech. THIS GUY SAYS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

If Ron Paul debates him, he needs to start with this: "Let's talk substance and actually what will be done instead of vacuous statements ...

 

[RonRules]

There are a total of 9 candidates left including all Democrats and Repulbicans.

Wouldn't it be nice to have a debate with ALL of them on the stage? I don't think this has been done before, but I think RP would come out really well in that environment. We could pick up a lot of Democratic votes that way.

 

[Signzit]

bump

 

[dkim68]

The way I see it he is sticking his neck out for all of us. We need to return the favor not just through donations but in educating and informing as many people as we can with his message. The reason why it's so important that WE do this work is because of the constant barrage of negativity opposing him, from the MSM garbage, misinformation from the other campaigns that he's dropped out of the race, vote fraud, etc. We need to really vividly imagine what the next four years will be like WITHOUT Ron Paul in the White House. Our destiny changed forever in the wrong direction. WE HAVE TO FIGHT FOR HIM! WE HAVE TO FIGHT FOR OUR FUTURES!!

 

[MayTheRonBeWithYou]

I will support Ron Paul all the way to the White House no matter what road he may have to take to get there!!!!!!!!

That's the spirit!!

 

[LibertyForAll]

It has come to the place in America that people don't trust Republicans OR Democrats. The Republicans got us into Iraq, the Democrats promised to get us out when they got control of Congress, and both parties have failed, and the people are really fed up with Washington, and both Repubs and Dems. I believe that in a General Election, this year Ron Paul would have a really good shot as an Independent.

 

[MayTheRonBeWithYou]

It has come to the place in America that people don't trust Republicans OR Democrats. The Republicans got us into Iraq, the Democrats promised to get us out when they got control of Congress, and both parties have failed, and the people are really fed up with Washington, and both Repubs and Dems. I believe that in a General Election, this year Ron Paul would have a really good shot as an Independent.

Right on.

 

[mudhoney]

It all comes down to us supporters. If we don't back down and he doesn't get the nomination, then I can see him going third party. The main factor here is that running third party is a LOT of work just to get on ballots and debates. If our grassroots campaign is stronger than ever though, and Ron Paul is up to it, we could make it the most successful third party presidential bid ever.

 

[RonPaulVolunteer]

Oh he HAS to run if he doesn't get the nomination... we will have TEN MONTHS to get the word out. We may have a serious shot at a 3rd party run.

 

[DBJ1414]

A Great Video By Ron Paul & Message & I Agree Totally With The Ronpaul4pres Posting

Ron Paul said in his new video today (Ron Paul Progress):

"I think we've achieved a lot more than even the optimists believed [in January 2007] ...this is the reason I don't close the door to anything."

"We have taken on The Establishment."

"I'll drop out when my supporters lose confidence and they no longer volunteer and they no longer send money."


I am torn about talking about it, but we must be realistic that the GOP nomination is extremely difficult to win. We must continue this fight no matter what happens within the GOP, and we must discuss and support a run outside the GOP, if needed. From the quotes above, I am convinced Ron Paul would do it.

Most of us only just joined late last year, which I think was a bit late. The campaign finally helped direct this great grassroots effort with voters.ronpaul2008.com, but it was only just opened in early January, which was very late. I think this is the main reason why we've started off very slowly.

But, the good news is we are getting much more organized and larger every day. We have until this November to get Ron Paul elected. We have the energy, motivation, direction, and time. Even if a GOP win is a long shot, a Presidential run is still realistic. From the quotes above, I am convinced that Ron Paul will stay in the fight when we stay in it.

This is why I'm strongly endorsing June as Tax Rebate Donation Month. We had 135,000 individual donors in Q4. We've had thousands of new people join the campaign since then. Even those who maxed out $2,300 for the GOP nomination, can start over with another $2,300 for the actual Presidential run (the start of The $4,600 Club?). Thus, I think it realistic that 100,000 people could donate their $600 "tax rebate" check to Ron Paul for $60,000,000 total. Who knows - maybe we can even hit $100,000,000? I can think of no better way for us as a group to stick it to "The Establishment" than to use their own policies against them for our movement.

A GREAT VIDEO BY RON PAUL & MESSAGE - & I TOTALLY AGREE WITH THE POSTING BY RONPAUL4PRES-DOUG

 

[me3]

I can say, with 99% certainty, Dr. Paul is not going to run third party.

MayTheRonBeWithYou, you really need to give it up. You keep creating false expectations for people, there has been an enormous amount of time and money put into joining up with the Republican party. If Ron runs third party, he will undermine the next candidate to run under his banner.

 

[RonPaulVolunteer]

This is foolish. Primary debates are much different than general election debates. RP could paint O as a pro-war, pro-Patriot act, socialist. The democrats won't attack Obama's "record." The Republicans will not be as nice. These debates would be about policy. You can't honestly believe O would get the best of RP in a policy debate

Yes I do. I agree with the post. No one will win against BO. Period. If he wins the nomination, he is GOING to be the President.

 

[MayTheRonBeWithYou]

I can say, with 99% certainty, Dr. Paul is not going to run third party.

MayTheRonBeWithYou, you really need to give it up. You keep creating false expectations for people, there has been an enormous amount of time and money put into joining up with the Republican party. If Ron runs third party, he will undermine the next candidate to run under his banner.

To me the "false expectation" is that we would win the GOP nod. That's why people get depressed when he doesn't win primaries. If you have a larger goal in mind (independent run), you never, ever get depressed by 2nd or 3rd or 4th place showings, because you know we are working toward a larger goal. Think about it.

As for pissing off the GOP, who cares???? The party needs a wake-up call. They have treated Ron like dirt, and our movement like a disease.

 

[ronpaul4pres]

A GREAT VIDEO BY RON PAUL & MESSAGE - & I TOTALLY AGREE WITH THE POSTING BY RONPAUL4PRES-DOUG

Thank you, Doug!

Also, I see some pooh-pooh the idea of a 3rd party run, but remember: he told Tim Russert he needed a little "wiggle room" on this subject. Also remember that Ron Paul stated that he had to be convinced to run in the first place. Even though he has no intention to run 3rd party today, that doesn't mean we couldn't convince him, again.

 

[DBJ1414]

You Are Welcome-lol Ronpaul4pres

Thank you, Doug!

Also, I see some pooh-pooh the idea of a 3rd party run, but remember: he told Tim Russert he needed a little "wiggle room" on this subject. Also remember that Ron Paul stated that he had to be convinced to run in the first place. Even though he has no intention to run 3rd party today, that doesn't mean we couldn't convince him, again.

YOU ARE WELCOME-LOL-RONPAUL4PRES- KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK-DOUG

 

[rockandrollsouls]

Let me put it this way; if your attitude is to give up if he doesn't win the GOP nomination, you should leave. Seriously. Get up and go. I hope with all of my soul he does, but if he doesn't, I hope he does everything in his power to get into the whitehouse. Is that false hope? I don't think so. Perseverence, yes.

 

[DBJ1414]

I Agree-doug

 

[me3]

As for pissing off the GOP, who cares???? The party needs a wake-up call. They have treated Ron like dirt, and our movement like a disease.

And this is why we won't win. Because people have no patience, or vision to realize that this may take a couple elections to realize. You want instant results, immediately. You want respect, for a movement that polls at 5% nationally.

You keep plugging third party, then complain that the GOP treats the movement like a disease.

To me the "false expectation" is that we would win the GOP nod. That's why people get depressed when he doesn't win primaries. If you have a larger goal in mind (independent run), you never, ever get depressed by 2nd or 3rd or 4th place showings, because you know we are working toward a larger goal. Think about it.

I have thought about it, and I know a little about it. Dr. Paul is setting up a new coalition for the Republican Party whether he wins or loses. He's not going to run again at 76 years old. He's basically admitted he never ran with the intention of winning. And most importantly, he only leaves the option of a third party run open so that his competitors and the party have to consider it later.

A 3rd party candidate has zero chance of winning. That's reality. No one even comes close. Ballot access is an issue, as are the debates (minimum national poll requirement).

And before people bring up the Libertarian party, they aren't even able to get 1 million votes nationally on their own. Dr. Paul's not going to throw away all of the clout built up in the Republican party by switching bids at the last minute. He's positioning himself to be the next Robert Taft.

 

[speciallyblend]

well

I disagree. He will not run 3rd party. He has been there, done that, and knows the odds are it is a waste of money.

He will either be in a brokered convention, will win outright, or will take his newfound popularity back to congress and start moving and shaking there for the first time in his career.

Ron Paul has nothing to say about a 3rd party run, He cant stop us from writing him in which i plan on doing. Ron Paul has my vote no matter what the gop decides.

 

[me3]

Let me put it this way; if your attitude is to give up if he doesn't win the GOP nomination, you should leave. Seriously. Get up and go. I hope with all of my soul he does, but if he doesn't, I hope he does everything in his power to get into the whitehouse. Is that false hope? I don't think so. Perseverence, yes.

My attitude is to keep fighting for the GOP nomination, not to fool myself that there is some other alternative, so we don't have to work as hard, or talk crap about the Republicans throughout the process.

You can tell me to leave, but you're missing the point. Excluding people, particularly Republicans will sink this campaign now, and later. There will be no legacy, just as Pat Robertson and Ross Perot left no legacy when they ran Reform.

Ron Paul has nothing to say about a 3rd party run, He cant stop us from writing him in which i plan on doing. Ron Paul has my vote no matter what the gop decides.

That's the right way to do it.