An Obama Presidency May Not Be Effective For Future Liberty Movements

[BagOfEyebrows]

There have been a lot of sentiments from members here that an Obama Presidency will actually work to our advantage in the future because it will help return our country towards more liberty-oriented principles, particularly in the Republican Party. I want to suggest this may not be the case for three reasons.

1. There is a possibility that our country will become even more accustomed and adapted to the socialist policies and agenda experienced under an Obama administration. Thus, for pragmatic reasons, our electorate could become even more hostile about the principles of liberty which aim at less government regulation, less taxes, more individual responsibility, more economic/civil freedoms, etc. because they've been used to Obama's policies which "have worked for so long." Of course, the media will do their best to assure the masses of this, and currently, our educational system increasingly espouses socialist/communist propaganda to the upcoming generation, seemingly in preparation of this.
   
2. The state of our nation may become so unbearable and intrusive under an Obama administration that people will be desperate for change by anyone who will drive us away from the status quo, which will give the Republicans an upper hand to nominate a candidate who is "just a little bit better than Obama," a moderate Republican, if you will. Thus, there is a possibility that we could still be stuck with another Republican after Obama's Presidency who is not principled in the foundations of liberty and Constitutional government that we all know is right and proper for our republic.
   
3. It seems to me that most people do not learn from history, and therefore, even if our nation's well-being becomes significantly worse under an Obama administration, it will most likely go unnoticed by the larger population (some of whom will be steadily enamored with the fact that we just have a Black President in the White House for the first time in our country's history). Undoubtedly, there will be individuals and organizations who will try to justify how Obama's socialist policies/agenda can be finely tuned and tweaked to work in "American democracy," since socialism only failed in other countries because they didn't have the right "political capital" we've enjoyed here in America for centuries. The principles of liberty in civics/economics may then be viewed as archaic and naive principles which failed our nation, due to all of the corporatism and political control of special-interests in Washington, D.C., among other things.

I just want to make it clear that I am not suggesting we should all vote for McCain to thwart Obama's chances of winning (I refuse to vote for the lesser of two evils.). I just want to caution those who suggest an Obama Presidency will help us in the long run that it may bring about some unintended consequences, and we need to consider those now in the present, if our grassroots efforts to campaign for liberty are to continue into the future.

Excellent post -

 

[Theocrat]

Evil Principles Corrupt

What better "principle" to vote on than to prevent as much evil as possible? If you have the opportunity to help prevent a greater evil, then why not take it? I question the "principles" of people who take your stance. I think your "principle" may be irrational.

With all due respect, the tactic of voting for the lesser of two evils is an evil principle itself. It has plagued our nation for many years already, and have things been any better as a result of it? Absolutely not. Every election cycle the Republicans and Democrats become more and more identical to each other, to the point where currently we have two candidates who are 95% alike in their stances on the issues. It's sickening.

The only way we'll prevent evil from entering our civil government is by electing the principally sound and morally good representatives and executives into office. A vote for evil never works, except for the benefit of the evil and to the detriment of the good.

 

[Zera]

Like it's been said before, it'll end up being the same shit, different asshole situation because I guarantee Obama will end up not doing anything he's planned and if he does, the disaster it will cause will cause people to be more angry than anything. If McCain wins, the GOP is just going to be the way it is now and will just get stronger. All I'm saying is that with an Obama presidency, the neocons will get weaker... And they're all that's holding us back.

inb4 mccain supporter says I'm an Obamadrone.

 

[Andrew-Austin]

but I am a Liberty Lover supporting McCain.

McCain hates liberty.

This is what he would do to it if he were a Predator alien thing:

The two fellows in the .gif are me and you being drafted to fight the terrorists in Iran.